Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Heppenheimer]

Immunity to Covid-19 could be lost in months, UK study suggests

Exclusive: King’s College London team found steep drops in antibody levels three months after infection

www.theguardian.com

One caveat... antibody levels are not the only thing that determines immunity. T cell activity also provides a fair amount of immunity, but this isn't directly measurable by commercial lab tests.

So, although measuring antibody levels is a good way to verify immunity, the lack of these antibodies doesn't necessarily mean a person has no immunity.

I'm hoping that T cells will incur some kind of prolonged immunity, but we don't know if this will be the case yet.

 

[xdan0920]

Last 4 days of numbers of tests are definitely trending up compared to past days and weeks. We will see...

Maybe more labs are finally reporting negatives as well as positives.

 

[kong1802]

Maybe more labs are finally reporting negatives as well as positives.

We'll have to wait on the alachua chronicle to confirm.

 

[xdan0920]

We'll have to wait on the alachua chronicle to confirm.

This right here, this is a problem with kids these days. Don't bother looking at the facts, just worry about the messenger. Sad.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

We'll have to wait on the alachua chronicle to confirm.

 

[Horizons '83]

Maybe more labs are finally reporting negatives as well as positives.

Wouldn't you just do the math to figure out the negatives? Total tests - Positives = negatives?

 

[oceanbreeze77]

The optics of HKDL closing but WDW staying open dont look good here.

 

[xdan0920]

FWIW....

Deaths are NOT up currently nationwide. The rise on the CDC chart is entirely attributed to date mining old cases.

This is not a statement on if deaths will rise going forward, but a simple statement of current data.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

and we’re off.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

FWIW....

Deaths are NOT up currently nationwide. The rise on the CDC chart is entirely attributed to date mining old cases.

This is not a statement on if deaths will rise going forward, but a simple statement of current data.

do you have a legitimate source on that?

 

[Andrew C]

and we’re off.

Smh.

 

[Kevin_W]

Immunity to Covid-19 could be lost in months, UK study suggests

Exclusive: King’s College London team found steep drops in antibody levels three months after infection

www.theguardian.com

That's definitely a disappointing article. Although with all the scientists/doctors in the world studying this disease, this is the only study of antibodies over time and they only tested 90 people? That strains credulity. The vaccine makers that generate an antibody response that are in phase 2/3 trials have to be looking at antibody levels over time.

 

[Touchdown]

This right here, this is a problem with kids these days. Don't bother looking at the facts, just worry about the messenger. Sad.

Yeah CNN, ABC, NBC, NY Times, Washington Post are all not trustworthy but local news papers have no agenda

 

[xdan0920]

Wouldn't you just do the math to figure out the negatives? Total tests - Positives = negatives?

No, they don't report negatives, which means they don't get added to the test count.

 

[Casper Gutman]

This right here, this is a problem with kids these days. Don't bother looking at the facts, just worry about the messenger. Sad.

So... how do you get the facts without a “messenger?”

 

[xdan0920]

Yeah CNN, ABC, NBC, NY Times, Washington Post are all not trustworthy but local news papers have no agenda

Were they wrong? Was the data wrong? Or where many labs posting only positive results? You know the answer.

 

[xdan0920]

So... how do you get the facts without a “messenger?”

Look at the Florida dashboard. I can not believe this is a discussion again.

 

[jinx8402]

Maybe more labs are finally reporting negatives as well as positives.

The total new positives number is still very bad, but I am inclined to believe this just a little. This is what may be driving the % positive numbers down

For example, Lee Memorial Hospital on 7/9 showed 394 positives, 0 negatives at a 100% positive rate. Today's report has them 454 positives, 2272 negatives at 17% positive. These numbers are cumulative since beginning of testing.

Total cases are still bad though, no way around that.

Edit: The use case I used was incorrect, the hospital has multiple lines in both the 7/9 and 7/13 files, and they both track similarly. I guess it is is still possible that some labs aren't reporting all negatives, but this analysis was incorrect.

 

[kong1802]

Were they wrong? Was the data wrong? Or where many labs posting only positive results? You know the answer.

And what was the statistical impact of that?

I'm sure they are still working on it....

 

[Miss Bella]

maybe your hospital is handling it well, but if you look outside of your own circle you would see that there are plenty of hospitals suffering. Staff shortages, only allocated one PPE gown per day, nurses are still having to use one N95 for their entire shift, and many hospitals in surge states are beginning to double up rooms. Thats not success.

It sounds like the hospitals are doing what they need to do to handle the surge that is what they are supposed to do. Shutting down the country and putting 40 million people out of work is not what we are supposed to do.