Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Lilofan

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That was obvious speculation, but Iger's statement about "running businesses more effectively" post-corona should've raised a lot of alarm bells and put the sentiment that the company will get through the other side a rebound quickly without major damage in question.
"Running businesses more effectively" in others words
Utilize automation to save on labor costs to pay workers to do the same job, restructure and consolidate operations to work with less staffing but increasing productivity, eventual job losses on some fronts. Outsource jobs that do not directly deal with customers when possible.
 

TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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peter11435

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That was obvious speculation, but Iger's statement about "running businesses more effectively" post-corona should've raised a lot of alarm bells and put the sentiment that the company will get through the other side a rebound quickly without major damage in question.
There is no doubt that this will lead to Disney and every other company reevaluating their businesses to be better prepared for the aftermath of Covid-19 and future events. It wouldn’t make sense to do anything less and you don’t need an Iger statement to know that. Excess overhead, fixed costs, bloated staffing levels, and vulnerability have to be looked at by every company.
 

SteamboatJoe

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There is no doubt that this will lead to Disney and every other company reevaluating their businesses to be better prepared for the aftermath of Covid-19 and future events. It wouldn’t make sense to do anything less and you don’t need an Iger statement to know that. Excess overhead, fixed costs, bloated staffing levels, and vulnerability have to be looked at by every company.

Adjustments, rightsizing, and even more automation seem to be very likely at this point for many companies once things open back up. Those that are operating right now are learning what they can and cannot live without and where their glaring shortcomings were/are. I suspect many will probably learn they did not invest enogh in IT, both front and back ends.
 

Slpy3270

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Adjustments, rightsizing, and even more automation seem to be very likely at this point for many companies once things open back up. Those that are operating right now are learning what they can and cannot live without and where their glaring shortcomings were/are. I suspect many will probably learn they did not invest enogh in IT, both front and back ends.

On the other hand, increased reliance on automation and IT makes a company much more vulnerable to cyber disruption. Sony learned that the hard way, three times.
 

SteamboatJoe

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On the other hand, increased reliance on automation and IT makes a company much more vulnerable to cyber disruption. Sony learned that the hard way, three times.
It's a double-edged sword to be sure but the cost savings over the long run will be too tempting for many.
 

monykalyn

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Or, he could have left the bus when asked. This isn’t a case of only one side being at fault.
SEPTA did change the rules after that incident. They are now strongly encouraging masks but not requiring them to ride.
Actually it was a strong recommendation from the start- NOT a law and NOT explicitly required per the article. What changed afterward is the enforcing. And really-5 or 6 or more officers to enforce it? Excessive force anyone? And yeah- see this carried out at Disney? Nope.
By "Don't think they care about anyone but themselves" I take it to mean that they don't care about anyone but their shareholders. As a shareholder, I am fine with that.
A business can be a good steward morally and ethically and still be profitable you know. Having record breaking profits just for the sake of record breaking profits is unsustainable.
 

John park hopper

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Actually it was a strong recommendation from the start- NOT a law and NOT explicitly required per the article. What changed afterward is the enforcing. And really-5 or 6 or more officers to enforce it? Excessive force anyone? And yeah- see this carried out at Disney? Nope.
If the guy had calmly gotten off the bus there would not have been any incident. Why do some people in our society feel the need to cop an attitude with the police. More than likely they would have given him a mask and he would be on his way. I don't blame the police at all
 

GoofGoof

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Actually it was a strong recommendation from the start- NOT a law and NOT explicitly required per the article. What changed afterward is the enforcing. And really-5 or 6 or more officers to enforce it? Excessive force anyone? And yeah- see this carried out at Disney? Nope.
Nope. You are wrong. Attached is the original order from SEPTA which went into effect several days before the incident. It was not just a recommendation, they were requiring all riders to wear face coverings. The bus driver was following his employer’s policy when reporting the guy. As far as police response, how was that excessive? 5 or 6 officers are there to make sure it doesn’t have to turn excessive. If there’s 1 cop who beats the guy with a knight stick and drakes him off the bus that’s excessive. They asked him to leave first (so did the driver before he called the cops). When he refused what are they supposed to do? They pulled him off the bus without hitting him or throwing him to the ground and let him go as soon as he was removed. Seemed pretty clean to me.

As far as Disney goes, what if the state mandates masks? Will they just ignore the state mandate?

 

GoofGoof

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If the guy had calmly gotten off the bus there would not have been any incident. Why do some people in our society feel the need to cop an attitude with the police. More than likely they would have given him a mask and he would be on his way. I don't blame the police at all
The driver did ask him to get off first before the cops were ever called. 3 SEPTA workers so far have died from this virus so it’s not surprising to see the driver actively enforcing their policy.
 

GoofGoof

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Offer him a mask? Was that not an option in order to de-escalate?
How do you know that didn’t happen? There’s no video from when the driver asked him to wear the mask or leave. Once the police arrived the guy was getting booted. He was acting belligerent and screaming and yelling. At that point it’s a safety issue for the other riders and the driver.
 

Lilofan

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Lilofan

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NYT on Bob Iger -

"The former C.E.O. thought he was riding into the sunset. Now he’s reasserting control and reimagining Disney as a company with fewer employees and more thermometers."

If Iger is the one really pulling the strings then the newly installed CEO Chapek tenure will be a short one but not without a golden parachute that he collects if he leaves or is ousted.
 

GoofGoof

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I don’t know. That’s why I’m asking about it.
Whether it happened or not is really beside the point. You can’t expect a bus driver to have masks for everyone who rides the bus. Should he carry extra shirts and shoes with him too since you can’t ride the bus without a shirt or shoes? At some point people need to be accountable for their own actions and they need to follow rules. If they don’t there are consequences. Too many snowflakes out their who think the rules don’t apply to them. That’s why mask requirements will never work.
 

Lilofan

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With people wearing masks, lip reading goes out the door. With the frequent downpours rainstorms in Central Florida during the rainy season there is going to be lot of rain drenched soaked masks. If one wants to get that Florida tan and wearing that mask that covers half of one's face, it is going to be a challenge.
 
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