Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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DisneyDebRob

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Exactly. There are already cases of retail workers suing employers after being exposed. Not saying they have a strong case but if I was an employer I would strongly reconsider potentially exposing employees if I wasn’t a truly essential operation.
What I find amazing at this point in time is that suddenly the whole nation is depending on the same people they didn’t believe should be making 15 bucks an hour. Give it up for all those risking themselves so we can go get tp and other essential things.
 

eliza61nyc

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That may be in those states. Keep in mind that the northeast corridor is densely populated. But Governor DeSantis is starting it up. He announced that this morning.

unfortunately I couldn't read because of firewall but be that as it may, there is a marked difference between what the states authorizes and what a private company can do.

Many companies probably have a strong argument for being open but are not. simply because they are not going to chance someone catching this.
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
Will be very interesting to see how WDW handles the huge lull in attendance that is sure to materialize over the next year or two. Will they invest in making the parks an irreplaceable, incomparable experience? Make people want to return.

Or will they nickel and dime like never before? Optimize staffing to make it appear busy, basically return to the same old tricks they have been utilizing in recent times to prop up the balance sheets. This could be a disastrous strategy.

The die has already been cast for the near term. With the lack of construction Disney has chosen. Universal on the other hand has decided that this time could be used to build and freshen up - https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...universal-but-not-disney.964209/#post-9150665

So, once everything opens, we the consumer will have our chance to influence decision making. Will Uni see a relative uptick compared to Disney? Don't know. How will Disney respond if that is the case? Don't know.

One thing Disney could do is actually start the 50th on October 1, 2021 and get two summers out of it (22 and 23). Have it go late instead of early and really use the extra time to go over the top. I have my doubts, but we'll see.
 

zengoth

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Why did all the sponsors leave?
Also, part of it is the Rise of the IP. In the ancient days, when Eastern Airlines sponsored If You Had Wings a la World's Fair, it was because the attraction was basically a wonderfully long commercial for travel. (On the other hand, Circlevision 360 was once sponsored by Monsanto, so I can't even get into reasons about what they got out of the deal...)
 

peter11435

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Also, part of it is the Rise of the IP. In the ancient days, when Eastern Airlines sponsored If You Had Wings a la World's Fair, it was because the attraction was basically a wonderfully long commercial for travel. (On the other hand, Circlevision 360 was once sponsored by Monsanto, so I can't even get into reasons about what they got out of the deal...)
Also true. For the most part the company is now more concerned with promoting its own IP’s, brands, and products and not those of others.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
New Jersey and Pennsylvania just put the kaboosh on all construction with a very few exceptions.

Ok. Just read the headlines I guess....

here’s a list of the very few exceptions.


Here is a list of all exemptions to the executive order.
  • Projects necessary for the delivery of health care services, including but not limited to hospitals, other health care facilities, and pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities.
  • Transportation projects, including roads, bridges, and mass transit facilities or physical infrastructure, including work done at airports or seaports.
  • Utility projects, including those necessary for energy and electricity production and transmission, and any decommissioning of facilities used for electricity generation.
  • Residential projects that are exclusively designated as affordable housing.
  • Projects involving pre-K-12 schools, including but not limited to projects in Schools Development Authority districts, and projects involving higher education facilities.
  • Projects already underway involving individual single-family homes, or an individual apartment unit where an individual already resides, with a construction crew of 5 or fewer individuals. This includes additions to single-family homes such as solar panels.
  • Projects already underway involving a residential unit for which a tenant or buyer has already entered into a legally binding agreement to occupy the unit by a certain date, and construction is necessary to ensure the unit’s availability by that date.
  • Projects involving facilities at which any one or more of the following takes place: the manufacture, distribution, storage, or servicing of goods or products that are sold by online retail businesses or essential retail businesses, as defined by Executive Order No. 107 (2020) and subsequent Administrative Orders adopted pursuant to that Order.
  • Projects involving data centers or facilities that are critical to a business’s ability to function.
  • Projects necessary for the delivery of essential social services, including homeless shelters.
  • Any project necessary to support law enforcement agencies or first responder units in their response to the COVID-19 emergency.
  • Any project that is ordered or contracted for by federal, state, county, or municipal government, or any project that must be completed to meet a deadline established by the federal government.
  • Any work on a non-essential construction project that is required to physically secure the site of the project, ensure the structural integrity of any buildings on the site, abate any hazards that would exist on the site if the construction were to remain in its current condition, remediate a site, or otherwise ensure that the site and any buildings therein are appropriately protected and safe during the suspension of the project.
  • Any emergency repairs necessary to ensure the health and safety of residents.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member

Here are the announced details, per the STCU:
  • Everyone’s job, seniority, wage rate and benefits are guaranteed through the furlough, even if you stay on furlough after Disney reopens. Seniority continues indefinitely beyond 12 months.
  • Everyone who has insurance will keep it for the duration of the furlough up to 12 months, including both full-time
    workers as well as part-time workers who qualify under the Affordable Care Act.
  • Insurance means all insurance benefits: medical, dental, life, etc. with no exceptions.
  • Disney will pay 100% of your insurance. You will not owe back payments when you return to work.
  • For insurance eligibility and pension contributions, full-time workers will be credited 40 hours per week during the furlough. Part-time workers will get credit for their weekly average hours worked since October 2019.
  • If you are a new worker, you can choose insurance after your 90-day probation just as you had planned.
  • If you come back from an approved Leave of Absence during the furlough, you are covered by the Union’s
    agreement.
  • If you have a qualifying life event, you can get insurance. Example, if you had insurance through your spouse but
    your spouse loses their job, you can enroll in Disney insurance. The same is true for a divorce or the birth of a
    child.
  • If the furlough continues until the next open enrollment period in 2020, you will be able to choose insurance.
  • Vacation, Floating Holidays and Paid Time Off (part-time employees): From April 12-18, you can choose to have it
    paid out weekly up to 40 hours per week until it is gone.
  • Full-time employees can also choose to be paid out accumulated sick days above 96 hours.
  • Other basic programs continue: HUB access, Aspire, Maingate, etc.
  • If you are in a job that requires certain skills or proficiencies, the Company cannot say you lose them.
  • A small group of less than 200 workers will do “essential” duties during the closure. The work will be offered to
    volunteers by seniority. If not enough people volunteer, the work will be assigned to the least senior workers. If
    you have a legitimate health, safety, childcare or other reason you cannot work, you will not be forced to work
    and you will not be penalized. You will remain on furlough.
  • If any worker covered by Disney insurance needs COVID-19 testing, Disney insurance will pay for it.
 
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GoofGoof

Premium Member
The world has changed. Corporations have much cheaper more efficient ways to get their names and products in the public’s eye.
Sponsorships have taken a back seat after the birth of the internet (thanks a lot Al Gore). Back in the 80s when they built EPCOT reaching millions of visitors each year was a big deal for advertisers. Now you just need to throw an add into a YouTube video and reach more people instantly.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
In a press conference earlier this morning, Governor DeSantis was literally talking about Florida DOT doing construction on I-4 in downtown Orlando while the roads are largely unused. If the government can do it, why can't private enterprises such as Disney make use of the downtime without guests?
With WDW losing $20-30 million per day being closed can the contractors accept an IOU and pay them later? 😉
 

thomas998

Well-Known Member
From a site about becoming a flight attendant:

Home base:

American bases its flight attendants at ten different hubs:

Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW): largest hub
Charlotte Douglas International Airport (CLT): second-largest hub
Chicago O´Hare International Airport (ORD): third-largest hub
Philadelphia International Airport (PHL): fourth-largest hub
Miami International Airport (MIA)
Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport (PHX)
Ronald Reagon Washington National Airport (DCA)
Los Angeles International Airport (LAX)
John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK)
LaGuardia Airport (LGA)
And I've known more than a dozen pilots and flight attendants that don't live and have never lived in any of those cities. And while they would sometimes move because their schedule was changed it wasn't moving to one of those cities it was to another spoke because they knew that was where their flight each morning was going to originate from.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member

Here are the announced details, per the STCU:
  • Everyone’s job, seniority, wage rate and benefits are guaranteed through the furlough, even if you stay on furlough after Disney reopens. Seniority continues indefinitely beyond 12 months.
  • Everyone who has insurance will keep it for the duration of the furlough up to 12 months, including both full-time
    workers as well as part-time workers who qualify under the Affordable Care Act.
  • Insurance means all insurance benefits: medical, dental, life, etc. with no exceptions.
  • Disney will pay 100% of your insurance. You will not owe back payments when you return to work.
  • For insurance eligibility and pension contributions, full-time workers will be credited 40 hours per week during the furlough. Part-time workers will get credit for their weekly average hours worked since October 2019.
  • If you are a new worker, you can choose insurance after your 90-day probation just as you had planned.
  • If you come back from an approved Leave of Absence during the furlough, you are covered by the Union’s
    agreement.
  • If you have a qualifying life event, you can get insurance. Example, if you had insurance through your spouse but
    your spouse loses their job, you can enroll in Disney insurance. The same is true for a divorce or the birth of a
    child.
  • If the furlough continues until the next open enrollment period in 2020, you will be able to choose insurance.
  • Vacation, Floating Holidays and Paid Time Off (part-time employees): From April 12-18, you can choose to have it
    paid out weekly up to 40 hours per week until it is gone.
  • Full-time employees can also choose to be paid out accumulated sick days above 96 hours.
  • Other basic programs continue: HUB access, Aspire, Maingate, etc.
  • If you are in a job that requires certain skills or proficiencies, the Company cannot say you lose them.
  • A small group of less than 200 workers will do “essential” duties during the closure. The work will be offered to
    volunteers by seniority. If not enough people volunteer, the work will be assigned to the least senior workers. If
    you have a legitimate health, safety, childcare or other reason you cannot work, you will not be forced to work
    and you will not be penalized. You will remain on furlough.
  • If any worker covered by Disney insurance needs COVID-19 testing, Disney insurance will pay for it.

Sounds like a pretty solid deal negotiated. Pretty much seems like no loss except actual pay.

The 200 number is alarming tho... seems like wdw wont be doing squat!
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Sounds like a pretty solid deal negotiated. Pretty much seems like no loss except actual pay.

The 200 number is alarming tho... seems like wdw wont be doing squat!
Between security and animal care there’s not much left for maintenance. I would have thought at least 200 just for security with 30+ hotels, 4 parks, 2 water parks, Disney Springs and all of the behind the scenes buildings. It’s a lot to protect.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member

Here are the announced details, per the STCU:
  • Everyone’s job, seniority, wage rate and benefits are guaranteed through the furlough, even if you stay on furlough after Disney reopens. Seniority continues indefinitely beyond 12 months.
  • Everyone who has insurance will keep it for the duration of the furlough up to 12 months, including both full-time
    workers as well as part-time workers who qualify under the Affordable Care Act.
  • Insurance means all insurance benefits: medical, dental, life, etc. with no exceptions.
  • Disney will pay 100% of your insurance. You will not owe back payments when you return to work.
  • For insurance eligibility and pension contributions, full-time workers will be credited 40 hours per week during the furlough. Part-time workers will get credit for their weekly average hours worked since October 2019.
  • If you are a new worker, you can choose insurance after your 90-day probation just as you had planned.
  • If you come back from an approved Leave of Absence during the furlough, you are covered by the Union’s
    agreement.
  • If you have a qualifying life event, you can get insurance. Example, if you had insurance through your spouse but
    your spouse loses their job, you can enroll in Disney insurance. The same is true for a divorce or the birth of a
    child.
  • If the furlough continues until the next open enrollment period in 2020, you will be able to choose insurance.
  • Vacation, Floating Holidays and Paid Time Off (part-time employees): From April 12-18, you can choose to have it
    paid out weekly up to 40 hours per week until it is gone.
  • Full-time employees can also choose to be paid out accumulated sick days above 96 hours.
  • Other basic programs continue: HUB access, Aspire, Maingate, etc.
  • If you are in a job that requires certain skills or proficiencies, the Company cannot say you lose them.
  • A small group of less than 200 workers will do “essential” duties during the closure. The work will be offered to
    volunteers by seniority. If not enough people volunteer, the work will be assigned to the least senior workers. If
    you have a legitimate health, safety, childcare or other reason you cannot work, you will not be forced to work
    and you will not be penalized. You will remain on furlough.
  • If any worker covered by Disney insurance needs COVID-19 testing, Disney insurance will pay for it.
That's not a good sign if some think WDW will have some cast doing "upkeep" of areas. The grounds, interior and exterior of the buildings will look like #@&%. Disney picking up the weekly insurance costs that cast pay weekly is a good thing for the cast. Disney insurance paying for covid testing? The govt picks up the tab on that.
 
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