Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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GoofGoof

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One thing to consider when travel does resume. WDW will be missing the 20% of international travel. However millions of Americans who would have been traveling internationally or on cruise ships will be forced to redirect their travel domestically.
True, but there are a lot of alternate options domestically. Not everyone who planned a trip to Europe or Mexico will go to Disney World instead. Especially people without young kids.
 

peter11435

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True, but there are a lot of alternate options domestically. Not everyone who planned a trip to Europe or Mexico will go to Disney World instead. Especially people without young kids.
Absolutely true. I didn’t mean to imply that it would fill the hole left by international travel. Just something to consider.

Not everyone traveling to the US internationally was going to WDW either. So the international travel issue will effect more than just WDW.
 

DisneyDebRob

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Pretty much what we have been saying here. They are using June 1 as a potential opening date because thats when they are taking reservations at WDW. I’m not sure that’s a lock to happen, but its the best information we have. Like we talked about earlier international travel will be slow and last to come back and that’s 20% of typical WDW attendance.
For me, and just me, they won’t be open until everything is at capacity with no restrictions as before this all started. I myself don’t know if I would invest my time and hard earned money until then. Our trips are usually 17 days a year at once so with that amount of time, I want it fully open. Call me selfish.:) May be canceling November, we will see.
 

GoofGoof

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Absolutely true. I didn’t mean to imply that it would fill the hole left by international travel. Just something to consider.

Not everyone traveling to the US internationally was going to WDW either. So the international travel issue will effect more than just WDW.
Absolutely. The majority of international travel to the US is probably for business. Even though those people aren’t necessarily going to a theme park or tourist destination they do stay in hotel rooms and eat at restaurants. It’s devastating to the hospitality industry. Even if the US opens the airports for unrestricted international travel (no idea how soon that will happen) so many companies will be doing belt tightening to make up for losses from the shut down that a lot of business travel will be either cancelled or postponed until next year. I can’t imagine the damage this will do to a city like NY. Even when things open up it won’t be a quick return to business.
 

George

Liker of Things
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A couple of notes that have come my way.

Still talking about a best case scenario of early June, worst case of late September opening.

Phased reopening with MK first, Epcot last.

Some of the hydraulic systems in attractions are being drained for periods of extended non-operation.

There is little to no upkeep of the parks taking place, so it will take some time to get things show ready.

Pretty much every project that can be stopped has been stopped and will remain stopped for the foreseeable future.
Robert Alan Epcot's park is opening last, eh? It really does make one wonder. When you look at Walt's out of wedlock children (Joe Kingdom, Phyllis Studios, and Robert) it lends credence to the theory espoused in Melanie Sedgewick's 1987 discredited, best seller that Robert was indeed the black sheep of the extended family.
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
Absolutely true. I didn’t mean to imply that it would fill the hole left by international travel. Just something to consider.

Not everyone traveling to the US internationally was going to WDW either. So the international travel issue will effect more than just WDW.

I wonder how many are going to be able to get back to work (those that haven't lost their job) in June, July, Aug....and then immediately put in for a week vacation. I think that's going to be one issue. The other obviously as you stated will be the ramp up period to where everyone starting to feel comfortable with flying/traveling internationally (and domestically in some cases). We are going back to the weekend stay-cation where the comfort level may be driving 100-200 miles.
 

GoofGoof

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For me, and just me, they won’t be open until everything is at capacity with no restrictions as before this all started. I myself don’t know if I would invest my time and hard earned money until then. Our trips are usually 17 days a year at once so with that amount of time, I want it fully open. Call me selfish.:) May be canceling November, we will see.
That’s the million dollar question for me too. I have a trip scheduled for August that is already paid for, but I’m not sure what I’ll do. I have to see the place open and functioning before deciding. Obviously I need to feel safe first and foremost. Aside from that, I can’t imagine going to Florida in August and wearing a mask all day so if that ends up being a requirement I’m probably out. I also want to see what’s open and for how long. If whole parks are closed, hours are shortened, night entertainment is cancelled and all the major rides have boarding groups that are difficult to get then I need to decide if it’s still worth the price. I don’t think it’s selfish. Everyone will have their personal requirements and minimum level of quality.
 

John park hopper

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Summer months means kids out of school vacations to WDW it will be interesting to see how school systems make up the time missed and if it will impact kids summer vacations. There are so many factors that will determine when people will go.
 

peter11435

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For me, and just me, they won’t be open until everything is at capacity with no restrictions as before this all started. I myself don’t know if I would invest my time and hard earned money until then. Our trips are usually 17 days a year at once so with that amount of time, I want it fully open. Call me selfish.:) May be canceling November, we will see.
I’m not sure everything will ever be exactly as it was before this all started.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
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A couple of notes that have come my way.

Still talking about a best case scenario of early June, worst case of late September opening.

Phased reopening with MK first, Epcot last.

Some of the hydraulic systems in attractions are being drained for periods of extended non-operation.

There is little to no upkeep of the parks taking place, so it will take some time to get things show ready.

Pretty much every project that can be stopped has been stopped and will remain stopped for the foreseeable future.
I had not thought of hydraulic systems needing to be drained. I wonder what the impact will be on the AAs of long term stationary. Hall of presidents comes to mind.
 

DisneyDebRob

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That’s the million dollar question for me too. I have a trip scheduled for August that is already paid for, but I’m not sure what I’ll do. I have to see the place open and functioning before deciding. Obviously I need to feel safe first and foremost. Aside from that, I can’t imagine going to Florida in August and wearing a mask all day so if that ends up being a requirement I’m probably out. I also want to see what’s open and for how long. If whole parks are closed, hours are shortened, night entertainment is cancelled and all the major rides have boarding groups that are difficult to get then I need to decide if it’s still worth the price. I don’t think it’s selfish. Everyone will have their personal requirements and minimum level of quality.
I agree. To invest so much and coming from where we are at it doesnt make much financial sense. I’m also wondering if most people will be thinking the same things which brings us back to some analysts predicting that WDW won’t be back attendance wise for up to 2 years. I’m sure locals and people close will go but for others where it is a big investment, maybe just hold off a bit.
 
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Lilofan

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A couple of notes that have come my way.

Still talking about a best case scenario of early June, worst case of late September opening.

Phased reopening with MK first, Epcot last.

Some of the hydraulic systems in attractions are being drained for periods of extended non-operation.

There is little to no upkeep of the parks taking place, so it will take some time to get things show ready.

Pretty much every project that can be stopped has been stopped and will remain stopped for the foreseeable future.
What about all the resort swimming pools, water parks which have bodies of water that are probably filthy and with lots of bacteria? If the interior buildings of theme parks and resorts AC has been turned off or set to a higher setting then mold and mildew will definitely set in with that horrible stench in the air. And the food and drink that will eaten must be safe and not expired. When in doubt, throw it out!
 

Lilofan

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Folks are going to need a vacation from their pandemic-imposed staycation. Just not on a plane or a boat. Looks like the roadtrip will be the preferred venue and roadside attractions will make a comeback.
And gasoline is under $2! For now..
 

Polynesia

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Folks are going to need a vacation from their pandemic-imposed staycation. Just not on a plane or a boat. Looks like the roadtrip will be the preferred venue and roadside attractions will make a comeback.
We used to drive with our kids for the summer vacation traveling over 1200 miles to get to Disney. Driving was much cheaper than flying the entire family. The grandparents came on occasion and it was lots of fun.
 

GoofGoof

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Summer months means kids out of school vacations to WDW it will be interesting to see how school systems make up the time missed and if it will impact kids summer vacations. There are so many factors that will determine when people will go.
Most of the teachers are unionized. I know near me the union contract won’t allow the school year to go past a certain date. They are also counting distance learning days as days worked so I don’t see a lot of schools extending into the summer. That being said tons of people pull their kids from school for a WDW vacation. It may be less likely come this fall since kids missed a lot of in person school.
 

Polynesia

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What about all the resort swimming pools, water parks which have bodies of water that are probably filthy and with lots of bacteria? If the interior buildings of theme parks and resorts AC has been turned off or set to a higher setting then mold and mildew will definitely set in with that horrible stench in the air. And the food and drink that will eaten must be safe and not expired. When in doubt, throw it out!
I would hope the pools would be cleaned. Keeping me up would be easier than letting them go and then trying to clean them. Blizzard Beach was under refurbishment when they closed so maybe they were already drained. I’m sure Disney is not letting their property get out of hand as that’s a huge investment.
 

GoofGoof

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We used to drive with our kids for the summer vacation traveling over 1200 miles to get to Disney. Driving was much cheaper than flying the entire family. The grandparents came on occasion and it was lots of fun.
My father In law lives in FL so we have made the drive with the kids from PA a half dozen or more times. Lots of cars from NY/NJ/PA/OH
 
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