Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Wendy Pleakley

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A big piece that seemed to be missing in the USA was vaccine passports. Something that has proven to be effective elsewhere.

Some places required it, some went out of their way to forbid it.

Locally, we had to show proof of vaccination to eat at a restaurant or see a movie, among other things. 87% of the eligible population is vaccinated. That's a big reason the restrictions have since been dropped. It's not perfect, but it's enough that people generally seem to feel comfortable.
 

SaucyBoy

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A big piece that seemed to be missing in the USA was vaccine passports. Something that has proven to be effective elsewhere.

Some places required it, some went out of their way to forbid it.

Locally, we had to show proof of vaccination to eat at a restaurant or see a movie, among other things. 87% of the eligible population is vaccinated. That's a big reason the restrictions have since been dropped. It's not perfect, but it's enough that people generally seem to feel comfortable.
I think passports would have been fine if limited to large scale places such as a movie theatre, sports arena, and other entertainment venues. None of those things are essential to life. But requiring passports to enter a restaurant or grocery store was overkill.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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I think passports would have been fine if limited to large scale places such as a movie theatre, sports arena, and other entertainment venues. None of those things are essential to life. But requiring passports to enter a restaurant or grocery store was overkill.

I'm not aware of anywhere requiring them for grocery stores. Restaurants are certainly non-essential and there was no restriction on getting take out if unvaccinated.

Regardless, it wasn't about what was essential so much as motivating people to get vaccinated.
 

Nubs70

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Repeating something 1000 times does not make it true.

You just want to blame the evil anti-maskers for COVID still being around instead of just blaming the virus. There were tons of places around the world with long term mask mandates and extremely high compliance and it never came close to going away in any of them.

The only thing that dramatically slows the spread while in place is a strict lockdown. Even that isn't a perfect or long term solution and it doesn't lead to eradication.
Strict lockdowns do slow the spread, however, once the virus gets in, it spreads like wildfire with a lesser strain having increased impact. Like Omicron in the US versus China.
 

correcaminos

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China’s issue is a low vax rate with the elderly and the use of less effective vaccines
S Africa is struggling sorta for similar reasons. Their lack of lock down means this wave is even less severe than the last with minimal hospitalizations and deaths. Even with omicron evading previous omicron variants it's still enough partial to make it less.
 

Gringrinngghost

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With all due respect, covid has been "going around" non-stop since 2020. Not sure what would be unique about a massive theme park that once reported 77k workers.

We go for our third post-closure trip soon and I shouldn't be in this thread lol. We plan to wear masks indoors but we know it's very likely not going to help. It's scary to hear how many people are casually mentioning getting covid from the happiest place on earth. It would be silly if I didn't dread the possibility. This trip is much more expensive than the last and being sick on vacation is horrible.

My neurotic worry is the daily hotel security checks. They sometimes come over when we are there and that makes me uncomfortable since they don't wear masks. Are we allowed to tell them to come back when we're gone? We're almost never in the resort more than two hours or so for mid day naps.
It's more so prevalent now. Callouts are amassing higher than the usual., especially with the parks doing jack about the spreading.
 

SaucyBoy

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It's more so prevalent now. Callouts are amassing higher than the usual., especially with the parks doing jack about the spreading.
What are they supposed to do? It's up to the individual to protect themselves, NOT others. Why is this so hard to comprehend? If they feel Disney isn't doing enough to "protect" them, they're free to find a new employer.
 

BuddyThomas

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It's also not out of the realm of possibility that some people claim to be vaccinated, when they aren't, to make their anti-vaxx statements seem more credible.
I tried to find anything proving what they are talking about, and all I found was this. So, technically they may actually be correct but the person on here who first brought this up is trying to prove that vaccinations don’t work, and this debunks that entire premise.

 

Wendy Pleakley

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Worked so great that just about everywhere that had it has eliminated it already 🤦‍♂️

Because it worked and people got vaccinated. 🤷‍♂️

I wonder why you didn't quote that part of my post, in which I pointed out that mitigations were dropped based on vaccination rates. That was always the goal, not to keep vaccine passports or masks or whatever in place permanently.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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If most people are vaccinated, would it not follow that most people in the hospital with covid are vaccinated?

Right, which is the point, The info is being spun to downplay the effectiveness of vaccines.


By just looking at hospitalizations, it would seem that the 90 vaccinated patients outnumber the 70 unvaccinated. They do. But the risk of being hospitalized is unchanged. You are still seven times more likely to be hospitalized if you are unvaccinated.

One factor I have omitted in the above calculations is the effect of age. Because vaccination rates are lower in younger age groups relative to older ones, and because younger individuals are less likely to require hospitalization relative to older ones, you must also adjust for age to get an accurate sense of the difference in hospitalization rates and the protective benefits of vaccines.
Once done, the data indeed confirms that unvaccinated people are 7.1 times more likely to be hospitalized than vaccinated people, and 13.8 times more likely to be in intensive care.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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It might have finally got me, I’ve been fighting allergy symptoms all week so I decided to take a home test and there’s a faint line, booked a rapid test at Walgreens for tomorrow to be sure.

The weird thing is I have every single symptom for allergies (runny nose, congestion, itchy eyes, and cough) but none of the other symptoms for Covid that aren’t also on the allergy list (no fever, no loss of taste, no aches and/or pains, no headache, no shortness of breathe, etc).

Guess I’ll find out tomorrow but IF this is Covid it feels identical to bad allergies.
 

correcaminos

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It might have finally got me, I’ve been fighting allergy symptoms all week so I decided to take a home test and there’s a faint line, booked a rapid test at Walgreens for tomorrow to be sure.

The weird thing is I have every single symptom for allergies (runny nose, congestion, itchy eyes, and cough) but none of the other symptoms for Covid that aren’t also on the allergy list (no fever, no loss of taste, no aches and/or pains, no headache, no shortness of breathe, etc).

Guess I’ll find out tomorrow but IF this is Covid it feels identical to bad allergies.
Could be allergies and asymptomatic too. I've had 2 friends in the last 3 or 4 days post going in for something else and popping up positive. One just needed to test for work. The other for an infection. I'm dealing with lousy allergies (tested and nothing) so I feel for you if it is that. Trying the newer xyzal and it seems to be helping. Especially the itchy eyes - those are the worst this year.
 

danlb_2000

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Could be allergies and asymptomatic too. I've had 2 friends in the last 3 or 4 days post going in for something else and popping up positive. One just needed to test for work. The other for an infection. I'm dealing with lousy allergies (tested and nothing) so I feel for you if it is that. Trying the newer xyzal and it seems to be helping. Especially the itchy eyes - those are the worst this year.

I have a friend who just tested positive for both COVID and Influenza.
 

Angel Ariel

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Who is suffering? This dramatic, doom and gloom, language is why the majority of people are no longer taking this stuff seriously.
The kids in my daughter’s school who are dealing with outbreaks across 4 different grade levels, causing teachers to be out for extended periods (with not enough subs to fill their absences), and whose education is being impacted by the lack of trained staff in the building. I’m glad to be back in person, and have no desire whatsoever to return to virtual, but our school had no outbreaks to this level at all until the last 2 months - a few weeks after the mask mandates in our school district went away by law (and then followed immediately by spring break).
 

usty

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Whole family stayed at the Poly this last week. KN-95 masked on bus/monorail but ate indoors 4x, rode rides etc. Thought we had a bit of drip from dry AC air, then our 2 year old woke up from his nap on our 2nd to last day with a fever and we went, "oh crap." Took a test, I was immediately positive, wife had very faint line.

We had avoided it for 2+ years (because of said 2 year old) and knew there was a risk.

Cancelled flight home, lost our last park day, got a rental car and drove 18 hours back to NJ to not put others at risk.

Everyone is feeling okay overall other than throat scratchiness, and Motrin seems to be controlling the kids fever with no issues.

I let Disney know before we left, and the manager did call me back, they offered to work with us to extend our stay if necessary, but we were more concerned about them sending housekeeping into our room without informing them since they don't mask prevalently either from what I saw.

Seems like if your risk tolerance is low, now is not the time to head there unless you're willing to really alter how you plan to do WDW.

*Edit based on timing of who got it strongest first, we think I either picked it up waiting to order late night food at Captain Cook's or taking my son into a busy bathroom to change him in Epcot. But who really knows at this point.
 
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Wendy Pleakley

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Whole family stayed at the Poly this last week. KN-95 masked on bus/monorail but ate indoors 4x, rode rides etc. Thought we had a bit of drip from dry AC air, then our 2 year old woke up from his nap on our 2nd to last day with a fever and we went, "oh crap." Took a test, I was immediately positive, wife had very faint line.

We had avoided it for 2+ years (because of said 2 year old) and knew there was a risk.

Cancelled flight home, lost our last park day, got a rental car and drove 18 hours back to NJ to not put others at risk.

Everyone is feeling okay overall other than throat scratchiness, and Motrin seems to be controlling the kids fever with no issues.

I let Disney know before we left, and the manager did call me back, they offered to work with us to extend our stay if necessary, but we were more concerned about them sending housekeeping into our room without informing them since they don't mask prevalently either from what I saw.

Seems like if your risk tolerance is low, now is not the time to head there unless you're willing to really alter how you plan to do WDW.

*Edit based on timing of who got it strongest first, we think I either picked it up waiting to order late night food at Captain Cook's or taking my son into a busy bathroom to change him in Epcot. But who really knows at this point.

Hope you're all okay and kudos to you for going out of your way to drive home out of concern and respect for others.
 
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