Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[correcaminos]

Who is suffering? This dramatic, doom and gloom, language is why the majority of people are no longer taking this stuff seriously.

There is a balance we have royally sucked on from the beginning. I do believe there was so much doom and gloom because that is what sells that it made it hard for harsh realities to make it through. Some still take it seriously. Some still suffer. The black and white approach really is harmful to reality.

 

[LittleBuford]

We plan to wear masks indoors but we know it's very likely not going to help.

If you use good masks (especially N95s), it really can help substantially.

Have fun and stay safe!

 

[LittleBuford]

Wearing a mask prevented YOU from transmitting it to others, and it gave SOME protection for you against getting it from others.

This was true at the beginning when we were all wearing cloth masks because of the scarcity of anything better. But now, masks that offer a great deal of protection to the wearer too are easily available.

 

[correcaminos]

I agree completely. I was villainized myself for relaxing my life after I got vaxxed by some friends, as if I was someone evil. Lol. It's funny how I've done a complete 360 since March 2020.

I am really a middle road person. I've been villainized by both sides. I am a rule follower though and so if asked to mask, I did without whining tooo much. I got so tired of those who didn't do as asked because it's an irk response to not following rules. I get that way with *any* rule like at Disney though, so understand that's who I am.

It's why some joke about me not masking at Disney I am sure.

But last summer we went to Disney 2 days after my then 13yo was vaccinated. We had to wear indoors - fine. We had a blast. When we returned all masks were dropped. We did not wear again until we were required to for schools. I still have more faith that my vaccine will keep me safer than not being vaccinated. Is it perfect? Nope. But a heck of a lot better than without. So anyone who went "freedom" after being vaccinated I totally get. I would've done it the moment I found out I was vaccinated but that was Jan of 2021 - mask mandates were everywhere LOL. But the moment they were relaxed, I dropped and enjoyed a mask free summer last year. So I'm on your side with that as long as you followed rules.

What people do now is really on them for the most part. Feel unsafe? Go for higher rated masks when uncomfortable. No judgment either way from me at this point. Though if you are coughing and hacking be kind and wear one if possible. I know allergies suck this year though

 

[Ayla]

I don't want to think of a teenager or child as doing something wrong for getting sick. It's a reality of life especially at school and the temptation kids have to live normally is natural.

We have avoided covid so far and I'm genuinely fearing that our number is up during this trip. We are tightly crossing our fingers. That's all we can do. It's a big step for us because we are quite cautious. Disney is something we can't pass up on. We can't. I'm also aware that we've been lucky to avoid it. Everyone else we know has had it including their little babies. Many of them are getting it from their kids at daycare. Just an ordinary day at daycare. I'm tired of cowering. I'd rather safely navigate living life at this point than sit with regret. Vaccinated people are very capable of having and spreading covid so we have to restore quality of life when we've done almost all we can and it's still here in about the same form as it was.

I think masks worked at Disney because we went twice without incident even though everyone was telling us we were insane to go. This trip will be the ultimate experiment : can it be avoided with one way masking? My guess is no but don't take my hope away

This was my 3rd trip to WDW since March of 2021, both previous trips had the mask mandate. This last one where we came home with covid did not. We wore masks in the airport/on the plane and indoor stores and ride queues. We did not mask outdoors or in restaurants. Based on our onset of symptoms and the time the three of us that ended up positive were together, we contracted covid at Disney Springs on Sunday, May 1st.

 

[BuddyThomas]

With all due respect, a celebrity is hardly a normal person. What they say, do, or feel is often disconnected from the general public.

Except when you are performing in a venue where masks are required and some jerk is sitting right in front of you refusing to wear one, and you were just out of the show for an extended period of time because you just had COVID. Except all that.

 

[SaucyBoy]

Except when you are performing in a venue where masks are required and some jerk is sitting right in front of you refusing to wear one, and you were just out of the show for an extended period of time because you just had COVID. Except all that.

If a patron wasn't complying, why weren't they removed from the venue? When we saw CATS in February, ushers were very vigilant about patrons keeping masks on during the performance. This seems like an operational failure here endangering the cast, especially an elderly member.

 

[BuddyThomas]

If a patron wasn't complying, why weren't they removed from the venue? When we saw CATS in February, ushers were very vigilant about patrons keeping masks on during the performance. This seems like an operational failure here endangering the cast, especially an elderly member.

They WERE removed from the venue.

 

[SaucyBoy]

They WERE removed from the venue.

So then what's the issue? They didn't comply and consequences were handed down.

 

[BuddyThomas]

So then what's the issue? They didn't comply and consequences were handed down.

Oh my God. This is going in a circle. I'm out.

 

[danlb_2000]

I am the same way but when I was there in mid April, the ONLY times I wore it was in the stretching room at the HM, and the long lines at Pirates and Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway inside. That was it. The rest of the time we were either outside or able to distance ourselves away from others, by letting the crowds go in front of us and sit away from them. American Adventure for example. Other times we sat in the front like It's a Small World and didn't wear a mask.

We're heading back for the first week of July and I am hoping masks are still optional for the vaccinated. I really don't relish the thought of wearing one there in the 90 degree heat. I won't wear one unless I am in a location like I described, then I'll throw it on for a few minutes until I can get outside or away from the crowd.

Stretching room made my a little nervous, but I figured I am not in there very long. The Minions preshow over at Universal was probably one of the worst indoor situations. I almost put on a mask when on a bus and the child next to be started coughing and I could feel it hitting my arm.

 

[Dreaming of Disney World]

If anyone's interested in my family's personal anecdote, covid finally hit my family after two years of us being extremely cautious. All adults were vaccinated and had 1 booster dose, and both kids had two pfizer doses. I had finally decided to let my kids attend school maskless, because they were tired of being the only kids with masks on, and cases were low. Within a week my daughter had mild cold symptoms and tested positive for covid. The next day she reported everything tasted and smelled bad. Everyone else in the family also tested. My son was positive but had no symptoms. My diabetic mom tested positive and had a sore throat, swollen glands, and was tired. She was prescribed an antiviral, and it helped her fully recover within a few days. My dad, husband, and I never tested positive. I was the main caretaker for my kids. They were constantly in my face, cuddling with me, etc. I didn't make them mask, but I wore a mask sometimes, and I never got it. My husband was around the kids in the evenings, never wore a mask, and never got it. We tested multiple times with home antigen and pcr tests throughout their quarantine. I truly think our boosters protected us. The whole thing made me feel better about covid because half of us never caught it, and the other half was barely sick.

 

[KrzyKtty]

Well after everyone in my family got vaccinataed, boosted, and masked, daughter still came home with COVID from school. Daughter, son, and I all tested positive this morning. Didn't even realize it. Her throat was slightly scratchy one morning, but I figured she just didn't want to go to church. At least it was a month before our Disney trip, so now we don't have to worry so much in Orlando next month.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This whole line of reasoning, that some people still got COVID despite mask wearing and therefore masks were useless is so simplistic. They were intended to mitigate and reduce the spread of COVID.

At the end of the day, COVID is still a thing because of a lack of vaccinations. Masks were supposed to help ease the pain as we transitioned to a vaccinated society. We continue to suffer because a lot of people haven't done what they should have done long ago.

We’d all love a “solution” but I think Covid is just one of those things that doesn’t have a solution.

Masks helped to some degree but they were never going to end Covid, staying home helped to some degree but it was never going to end Covid, vaccinations significantly helped but even 100% vaccinated wasn’t going to end Covid because it can still be passed among the vaccinated.

We all want something to blame for why we haven’t beaten it but sometimes there just isn’t anything to blame. We absolutely could have done better but Covid is still a thing because we’ve never had the ability to stop it being a thing.

Getting vaccinated turned it into an acceptable risk but it’s still a risk.

 

[KrzyKtty]

If anyone's interested in my family's personal anecdote, covid finally hit my family after two years of us being extremely cautious. All adults were vaccinated and had 1 booster dose, and both kids had two pfizer doses. I had finally decided to let my kids attend school maskless, because they were tired of being the only kids with masks on, and cases were low. Within a week my daughter had mild cold symptoms and tested positive for covid. The next day she reported everything tasted and smelled bad. Everyone else in the family also tested. My son was positive but had no symptoms. My diabetic mom tested positive and had a sore throat, swollen glands, and was tired. She was prescribed an antiviral, and it helped her fully recover within a few days. My dad, husband, and I never tested positive. I was the main caretaker for my kids. They were constantly in my face, cuddling with me, etc. I didn't make them mask, but I wore a mask sometimes, and I never got it. My husband was around the kids in the evenings, never wore a mask, and never got it. We tested multiple times with home antigen and pcr tests throughout their quarantine. I truly think our boosters protected us. The whole thing made me feel better about covid because half of us never caught it, and the other half was barely sick.

I have the same symptoms as your mom. Sore throat, tired, and swollen glands. No other symptoms. I'm feeling a lot better today than I was yesterday. Yesterday started with a sore throat in the morning, and by the evening I was on my butt LOL. Throat was killing me, head felt fuzzy, and I was sooo tired. Today my head is a bit more clear, throat is already a lot better, and and my glands don't feel so swollen. My chest felt a little bit heavy this morning, but it is better now at mid-day. I am hoping I will be over the worst of it by this weekend. I didn't bother with medication yet.

 

[SaucyBoy]

If anyone's interested in my family's personal anecdote, covid finally hit my family after two years of us being extremely cautious. All adults were vaccinated and had 1 booster dose, and both kids had two pfizer doses. I had finally decided to let my kids attend school maskless, because they were tired of being the only kids with masks on, and cases were low. Within a week my daughter had mild cold symptoms and tested positive for covid. The next day she reported everything tasted and smelled bad. Everyone else in the family also tested. My son was positive but had no symptoms. My diabetic mom tested positive and had a sore throat, swollen glands, and was tired. She was prescribed an antiviral, and it helped her fully recover within a few days. My dad, husband, and I never tested positive. I was the main caretaker for my kids. They were constantly in my face, cuddling with me, etc. I didn't make them mask, but I wore a mask sometimes, and I never got it. My husband was around the kids in the evenings, never wore a mask, and never got it. We tested multiple times with home antigen and pcr tests throughout their quarantine. I truly think our boosters protected us. The whole thing made me feel better about covid because half of us never caught it, and the other half was barely sick.

Lack of taste, smell, sore throat, and an extreme case of lethargy were my main symptoms of covid both rounds. I firmly believe that I have some type of long-haul covid with my energy. I'm also noticing more grey hairs. But is that from covid or from teaching high school freshmen

 

[danlb_2000]

If anyone is interested in keeping up with the current recommended treatments for COVID I highly recommend the This Week in Virology Podcast's weekly clinical update episodes. They talk about the latest research, answer listener questions and also provide a summary of the current recommended treatment options.

This Week in Virology

A podcast about viruses - the kind that make you sick

www.microbe.tv

 

[DisneyCane]

We’d all love a “solution” but I think Covid is just one of those things that doesn’t have a solution.

Masks helped to some degree but they were never going to end Covid, staying home helped to some degree but it was never going to end Covid, vaccinations significantly helped but even 100% vaccinated wasn’t going to end Covid because it can still be passed among the vaccinated.

We all want something to blame for why we haven’t beaten it but sometimes there just isn’t anything to blame. We absolutely could have done better but Covid is still a thing because we’ve never had the ability to stop it being a thing.

Getting vaccinated turned it into an acceptable risk but it’s still a risk.

I posted months ago that humans like to think we can control everything and some people can't accept there are things that are out of our control.

With COVID, if it was as simple as everyone wear a mask in public for 100 days the people in power in 2020 (worldwide) would have advocated strongly for that and avoided the economic disaster that has followed.

Vaccines have allowed people to significantly reduce their risk of severe outcomes and that's about all the control we have over COVID if we want to maintain normal lives.

 

[DisneyCane]

So I am going to say this again for the cheap seats.......

Wearing a mask prevented YOU from transmitting it to others, and it gave SOME protection for you against getting it from others. Wearing a mask was never going to be 100% and it was not meant to make sure you did not get the virus. It was in place to keep you from transmitting to others. This has been said to exhaustion.

Repeating something 1000 times does not make it true.

You just want to blame the evil anti-maskers for COVID still being around instead of just blaming the virus. There were tons of places around the world with long term mask mandates and extremely high compliance and it never came close to going away in any of them.

The only thing that dramatically slows the spread while in place is a strict lockdown. Even that isn't a perfect or long term solution and it doesn't lead to eradication.

 

[danlb_2000]

I posted months ago that humans like to think we can control everything and some people can't accept there are things that are out of our control.

I always liked this quote from Alan Moore:

“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.

The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.

The world is rudderless.”