Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[ToTBellHop]

I can’t recall people ever acting like this before, desperately searching for any excuse not to take a fully approved vaccine, it’s mind boggling.

I had concerns about the speed it was developed also but it’s been a year and half the world is now vaccinated, if there were going to be side affects they’d have shown by now, time for people to stop looking so hard for excuses and just look at the facts.

Agreed. I understood people not being first in line last winter. I understand parents wanting to wait a few months for their 6-year olds now. I do not think a mandate for kids is appropriate yet. But, there comes a point when you are just lying to yourself to feel good about a decision that, deep down, you know is foolish. Online echo chambers help, of course.

 

[Andrew C]

When did you get vaccinated? Our mandates here were only lifted about the time my kid got their 2nd dose. Even now we have masks required in places, but outside of that and putting them on more when out, we're normal.

April was my second dose. By May, pretty much all restrictions were done in my state. Even more so for me because this was also the month I moved out of the city and into a small town.

 

[Bob Harlem]

Likely some important announcements today that will likely impact Disney.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Agreed. I understood people not being first in line last winter. I understand parents wanting to wait a few months for their 6-year olds now. I do not think a mandate for kids is appropriate yet. But, there comes a point when you are just lying to yourself to feel good about a decision that, deep down, you know is foolish.

That’s my conclusions also, people made their decision and now they’ve dug in because they don’t want to admit they made a mistake.

They’d rather die fighting than admit they were wrong.

 

[mmascari]

Even though you and your kids get the shots the shots are not 100% effective I hope people are not getting a false sense of security thinking well I'm vaccinated everything is back to normal

How are you defining “normal”? Like the middle of a normal flu season? That’s approximately where the vaccinated are. The risk of a breakthrough serious infection is incredibly low in most populations. And in populations with higher risk, they are now eligible to boost and should do so.

Beyond someone's personal risk level health conditions, this is also every dependent on the environment you're walking around in.

If you're vaccinated and walking around in an area of low transmission, you're probably back to the "before times" with no care in the world.

If you're vaccinated and walking around in a pool overflowing with uncontrolled high spread, some precautions are still prudent. You're just being exposed to to much virus.

Meaning, lots of this depends on where you're living and hanging out. Either way, you're significantly (orders of magnitude) better off than an unvaccinated person.

If you want to use the CDC levels for what's high or want some other metric where high starts later, that's a different question.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Beyond someone's personal risk level health conditions, this is also every dependent on the environment you're walking around in.

If you're vaccinated and walking around in an area of low transmission, you're probably back to the "before times" with no care in the world.

If you're vaccinated and walking around in a pool overflowing with uncontrolled high spread, some precautions are still prudent. You're just being exposed to to much virus.

Meaning, lots of this depends on where you're living and hanging out. Either way, you're significantly (orders of magnitude) better off than an unvaccinated person.

If you want to use the CDC levels for what's high or want some other metric where high starts later, that's a different question.

I couldn’t live somewhere filled with science-deniers. I would have needed to move for my mental health.

 

[Andrew C]

I couldn’t live somewhere filled with science-deniers. I would have needed to move for my mental health.

Depends on what science they are denying, doesn’t it?

 

[The Mom]

Depends on what science they are denying, doesn’t it?

Please don't go down that path!

 

[ToTBellHop]

Depends on what science they are denying, doesn’t it?

The peer-reviewed type. Not that most people can even read it. I have folks on Facebook who will say, “I’ll make a decision on the shot after I’ve read the science,” so I always share those 80-page summaries they release before these FDA meetings…I’m sure they read them thoroughly.

People want to read the science and then call you condescending when you try to share the science with them. You have two chooses: read the articles or trust doctors. I don’t care for option 3: trust Facebook memes.

I gave a talk at my College on the vaccines and tried to break them down in an understandable way, but it was still an hour talk. If people can’t take the time, but don’t want to trust the overwhelming majority of doctors, I don’t know how to help them.

 

[Andrew C]

Please don't go down that path!

Lol. Sorry. It was just a joke.

 

[Andrew C]

I just got the flu shot and will get my COVID-19 booster once the recommend it for my age group. Once my kids are fully-vaccinated, I won’t have a care in the world. Broadway shows and cruise ships, here we come!

I have a couple cruises booked for next year. RCL in July and DCL in December.

 

[correcaminos]

April was my second dose. By May, pretty much all restrictions were done in my state. Even more so for me because this was also the month I moved out of the city and into a small town.

Cool! Was totally curious. By the time mandates were lifted I was beyond ready personally but I knew I had been vaccinated for long enough to be prepared. Some friends took longer. It was much slower for me, but one by one, as loved ones vaccinated and restrictions were lifted, we got there. We totally were back to normal this summer. Outside of Disney's indoor mask requirements we had an insanely normal June and July. Kid at camp required indoors, but again not a big deal. Now we're back to places requiring so I just wear indoors since most do.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[ToTBellHop]

I have a couple cruises booked for next year. RCL in July and DCL in December.

Nice. We are on the Wish in July and then finally taking our 2020 Europe vacation in August, which includes a RCL cruise on their new ship.

 

[Lilofan]

Nice. We are on the Wish in July and then finally taking our 2020 Europe vacation in August, which includes a RCL cruise on their new ship.

My parents learned the hard way when they went to Europe in August back in the day. A number of the European locals take the month of August off, leave town and my parents were faced with limited offerings.

 

[DCBaker]

Mayor Demings has announced he is allowing the local State of Emergency order for Orange County to expire this afternoon.

Demings says it will be up to employers on how they want to keep their patrons and workers safe.

Demings also says he will continue to require county employees to wear facial coverings indoors until the CDC moves Orange County from substantial risk to moderate.

 

[Kevin_W]

I can’t recall people ever acting like this before, desperately searching for any excuse not to take a fully approved vaccine, it’s mind boggling.

It's actually quite common - look how many don't get a flue shot. For some it's just convenience, but many contort the facts to justify avoiding it (it always gives me the flu!). and then there is the varicella vaccine or the HPV vaccine that many avoid. There are people who would generally prefer there child to have a disease than to have a vaccine to prevent the disease.

 

[spresso81]

Mayor Demings has announced he is allowing the local State of Emergency order for Orange County to expire this afternoon.

Demings says it will be up to employers on how they want to keep their patrons and workers safe.

Demings also says he will continue to require county employees to wear facial coverings indoors until the CDC moves Orange County from substantial risk to moderate.

Really good news and thanks for the update. Let's see if Disney moves on this...

 

[Andrew C]

Mayor Demings has announced he is allowing the local State of Emergency order for Orange County to expire this afternoon.

Demings says it will be up to employers on how they want to keep their patrons and workers safe.

Demings also says he will continue to require county employees to wear facial coverings indoors until the CDC moves Orange County from substantial risk to moderate.

Is this a change to the status quo?

 

[Angel Ariel]

Or we will listen to medical people who know more than most of us here who suggested we give it to the kids. Kids are not at zero risk from covid at all. But go ahead and keep trying to diminish the vaccine. Why you do baffles me still.

Yup. I will be listening to the specialists that have told us to vaccinate ASAP before I listen to anyone online.