SierraT
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Shhh.. let me have my thing.Ummm....about that....![]()
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Shhh.. let me have my thing.Ummm....about that....![]()
You are definitely optimistic...but thatās ok.What about a soft opening with temp scans and limited restaurant capacities? I could see that happening in June. People are ready to open things up and you know these large corporations can't bleed money forever.
Am I too optimistic?
Shingles hurts like, well, something that hurts a lot since profanity is not allowed.It reminds me of shingles: which is reactivation of chickenpox and can give someone chickenpox if they haven't had the vaccine.
No joke...Shingles hurts like, well, something that hurts a lot since profanity is not allowed.
You do know that FL reports twice a day, right? Maybe the numbers you were looking at was not a ādaily updateā but only the ānumber since the last updateā which is only half a day?
I've heard they do, never had chickenpox so I got sent home when a lady at work showed up with shingles last year. Definitely feels like dejavu.Shingles hurts like, well, something that hurts a lot since profanity is not allowed.
You are definitely optimistic...but thatās ok.
The problem is thatās not a feasible plan and Disney would never go for it.
I see ātemperature scansā gaining popularity...problem is it really does nothing to combat this:
1. Asymptomatic can transfer
2. The Florida weather is extreme so how would you trust a scan anyway.
3. Disney workers are sweet people...but nowhere qualified to work in medical screening
4. A once in time reading is just begging for a flashpoint spread if itās wrong. You just cannot trust people to stay away from Disney even if they are exposed.
We need the antibody testing...at a minimum.
People infected with the new coronavirus are almost certainly emitting it for close to 2 Ā½ days before their first signs of illness appear, the scientists found. In fact, the contagion of an infected person reaches its peak roughly 18 hours before she feels the first blush of fever, notices the first twinge of body ache, or experiences her first bout of coughing.
I asked this in another thread but wonder what folks think here. Let's say Disney went through the trouble of hiring and restocking the shelves and reopening the parks prematurely (even if staggered) and the pandemic immediately reared its head again as if it never left. Which, let's face it, itās gonna stick around for a while. Economically and logistically, would that be a good move on their part? Or is it better than leaving the parks closed?
It reminds me of shingles: which is reactivation of chickenpox and can give someone chickenpox if they haven't had the vaccine.
Shingles reactivates the virus, but it doesn't give you chickenpox again - it's much different and more painful. (sorry, edited after i realize you are saying you can give someone ELSE chickenpox?)It reminds me of shingles: which is reactivation of chickenpox and can give someone chickenpox if they haven't had the vaccine.
Because everyone, informed or not, will have an opinion.Seeing reports like that make me wonder why so many think it's ok to open Disney by July.
I agree but am not laughingIt is still going to get so much worse, lol
It is still going to get so much worse, lol
Basically the only way out is through Herd Immunity. 2 ways of achieving it: Either through vaccines, or through exposition to the virus.My kidsā pediatrician told me that before the chicken pox vaccine, since kids kept getting chicken pox, it kept adults exposed to the virus, which caused them to keep producing antibodies, which in turn helped prevent them from getting shingles. Now that thereās a vaccine, adults arenāt exposed to the virus as often since so few kids get chicken pox, and now shingles is more common unless you get the vaccine.
I donāt know how true that is, but I found it interesting.
It makes me wonder about COVID-19 since kids seem to get such mild cases. I am NOT a doctor, but itās just one theory Iāve wondered about, especially since Sweden seems to be letting their children be exposed by keeping the elementary schools open.
The US has 320M people and they estimate at least 40-60% need to be infected or immunized for herd immunity. Taking the mid-point of that number we would need 160M people infected to reach herd immunity without a vaccine. We have 700K total confirmed positive cases and that took about a month. Hospitals were not overwhelmed but we came close in some of the hotspots. Letās assume there are some people who are infected but were never tested. Letās even say 10X the number to be really conservative. So even if 7 million people were infected in a month and we hold that pace steady it will take 2 years to reach herd immunity. Likely longer than the vaccine and we donāt know how long the immunity will last either so some may get it twice. If you let people get infected at a faster pace to speed up gaining herd immunity the odds are very high the hospitals would be overrun and weād have a very bad situation on our hands. This is why herd immunity can really only be achieved through a vaccine at least in the US. A smaller country that like you said has a very robust healthcare system can probably get there sooner.Basically the only way out is through Herd Immunity. 2 ways of achieving it: Either through vaccines, or through exposition to the virus.
Sweden is an example, The Netherlands too (their officials openly announce it), and here in Belgium the lockdown is less strict than our southern French neighboors. But only countries with a very robust health system can afford to try this.
That is the basic āherpesā virus as well...Shingles reactivates the virus, but it doesn't give you chickenpox again - it's much different and more painful. (sorry, edited after i realize you are saying you can give someone ELSE chickenpox?)
Mayoclinic.org says:
"Shingles is caused by the varicella-zoster virus ā the same virus that causes chickenpox. After you've had chickenpox, the virus lies inactive in nerve tissue near your spinal cord and brain. Years later, the virus may reactivate as shingles."
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