Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Slpy3270]

BTW an asymptomatic covid outbreak seems to have taken place inside a Disney cruise ship and so far no one is talking about the potentially massive lawsuits that will follow.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

BTW an asymptomatic covid outbreak seems to have taken place inside a Disney cruise ship and so far no one is talking about the potentially massive lawsuits that will follow.

How does that happen?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I understand that everybody can’t be saved and that the economic and social price are massive and almost incomprehensible but when you fall into the vulnerable category it colours your perspective.......... I’m still a Mum and my husband is still a Dad and a brother. We still lead active lives. We pay taxes, council tax, provide public service, play in a brass band and generally don’t feel ready to give up life without a fight. Please don’t give up on us- if the roles were reversed the aged wouldn’t give up on you! I know that’s very different but even vaguely suggesting that the vulnerable should be left to take their chances is horrific for someone in that category!!

...ahhh. I was wondering where you were from when you reacted to my reference to “the troubles”...

Now I don’t have to ask. Cheers.

 

[DCBaker]

BTW an asymptomatic covid outbreak seems to have taken place inside a Disney cruise ship and so far no one is talking about the potentially massive lawsuits that will follow.

I've avoided posting about this because the other articles I've read link back to just one report here -

Thirty-Eight Crew Members on Disney Wonder Reportedly Test Positive for COVID-19

Crew members employed on the Disney Wonder reportedly tested positive for COVID-19, according to several employees on the ship who wish to remain

www.cruiselawnews.com

Has there been any other confirmation?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

BTW an asymptomatic covid outbreak seems to have taken place inside a Disney cruise ship and so far no one is talking about the potentially massive lawsuits that will follow.

I hadn’t seen that...what’s your reputable source?

How does that happen?

Quite easily...which is why the cruise industry as a whole is in DEEP trouble

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I've avoided posting about this because the other articles I've read link back to just one report here -

Thirty-Eight Crew Members on Disney Wonder Reportedly Test Positive for COVID-19

Crew members employed on the Disney Wonder reportedly tested positive for COVID-19, according to several employees on the ship who wish to remain

www.cruiselawnews.com

Has there been any other confirmation?

...doesn’t look too reputable.

 

[GoofGoof]

I've avoided posting about this because the other articles I've read link back to just one report here -

Thirty-Eight Crew Members on Disney Wonder Reportedly Test Positive for COVID-19

Crew members employed on the Disney Wonder reportedly tested positive for COVID-19, according to several employees on the ship who wish to remain

www.cruiselawnews.com

Has there been any other confirmation?

This is the same ship right?

Disney Cruise ‘Handful of Guests', 2 Crewmembers Test Positive for COVID-19

A Disney Cruise ship that pulled into the Port of San Diego last week reports a “handful of guests” and two crewmembers have tested positive for COVID-19 after not exhibiting symptoms during the cruise. Disney said Monday they have notified all guests and crewmembers about the positive COVID-19...

www.nbcsandiego.com

It left New Orleans before the cruise lockdown and returned to San Diego early. Doesn’t seem overly negligent.

 

[DCBaker]

This is the same ship right?

Disney Cruise ‘Handful of Guests', 2 Crewmembers Test Positive for COVID-19

A Disney Cruise ship that pulled into the Port of San Diego last week reports a “handful of guests” and two crewmembers have tested positive for COVID-19 after not exhibiting symptoms during the cruise. Disney said Monday they have notified all guests and crewmembers about the positive COVID-19...

www.nbcsandiego.com

It left New Orleans before the cruise lockdown and returned to San Diego early. Doesn’t seem overly negligent.

That's what the author of the linked article is saying. However, I've not seen anyone else confirming it with new reporting not going back to the same article.

 

[GoofGoof]

The crazy thing for the cruise lines (including Disney) is the crew of a lot of those ships is still on board living at sea. Many of the crew are from other countries so not allowed on shore. Must be a frightening thing to live through.

 

[easyrowrdw]

The Worldometer count is about to tick over to another day, but it's showing 9,000 fewer new cases today than yesterday. Total deaths were up by 1,200 though (edit: but that is fewer new deaths than yesterday). Most of the states with the most overall cases saw fewer new cases too, including NY, NJ, and FL. It looks to be the first time there have been fewer new cases from one day to the next since March 21.

 

[disney4life2008]

I am a Cubmaster for a Cub Scout Pack, we have been directed to not even have meetings in person. We have been doing virtual meetings. Probably all summer camps will be cancelled.

If it helps most if not all summer events will be canceled

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The Worldometer count is about to tick over to another day, but it's showing 9,000 fewer new cases today than yesterday. Deaths were up by 1,200 though. Most of the states with the most overall cases saw fewer new cases too, including NY, NJ, and FL.

That could mean things are STARTING to work...could.

People let up now and it blows any progress apart.

 

[Polynesia]

The Worldometer count is about to tick over to another day, but it's showing 9,000 fewer new cases today than yesterday. Deaths were up by 1,200 though. Most of the states with the most overall cases saw fewer new cases too, including NY, NJ, and FL. It looks to be the first time there have been fewer new cases from one day to the next since March 21.

Very good need. Thank you for sharing.

 

[TrojanUSC]

BTW an asymptomatic covid outbreak seems to have taken place inside a Disney cruise ship and so far no one is talking about the potentially massive lawsuits that will follow.

Five crew members are hospitalized. How is that "asymptomatic"?

 

[GhostHost1000]

Flattening? Maybe not.
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There are also reports that deaths are being recorded as related to coronavirus whether that is the cause of death right now or not. It’s hard to know what to believe and what not to believe in any of the “news” these days. Sad but true

 

[DisneyCane]

Absolutely not.

Now, it *may* being flattening, but you can *absolutely not* say it is with just one day's total being less than the previous.

Just look at the chart, there were other days in which the number went down. Imagine if you proclaimed on that day, "The curve is flattening!!" You'd be absolutely wrong.

You can hope this is a sign of a flattening... but it is most likely not. The latest IHME projection still has Florida short over 800 ICU beds when it crests at the beginning of May.

Interpret the data as you wish. There was a 37% drop in new cases from yesterday to today.

As far as the IHME model. Besides the fact that it has so far overestimated (by a lot) the hospital bed demand it isn't accounting for hospitals expanding ICU capacity by transforming other facilities (such as operating recovery rooms) into ICU beds to prepare for a surge.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Huh? I wasn’t challenging... i was just asking if people going on a hike is actually extending the time since the whole point of the Safer at home order is to slow everything down.

It's not "people going on a hike." It's non-family members socializing together and ignoring the 6ft distancing while doing so that I was referencing.

 

[Angel Ariel]

As long as they maintain social distancing from those who aren't in their household, I would say they aren't extending the time-frame of the shut-downs.

Agreed - but that's not what I was referring to AS they weren't in the same household, and weren't observing social distancing.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I am a Cubmaster for a Cub Scout Pack, we have been directed to not even have meetings in person. We have been doing virtual meetings. Probably all summer camps will be cancelled.

As it should be, sadly. I was honestly shocked.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It's not "people going on a hike." It's non-family members socializing together and ignoring the 6ft distancing while doing so that I was referencing.

I agree the scouts shouldn’t have been on a hike. But that’s a separate problem. People will never 100% follow rules.

My point is those scouts hiking are not going to make this last longer... in general we’ve closed down the country, that will make a difference.