Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[durangojim]

The governor of Michigan also just passed an executive order today preventing employers from forcing employees to come to work or retaliating against them if they have any of the covid symptoms. I’ve been giving my patients work notes for the past two weeks and am glad that will offer some protection for them going forward.

 

[Josh Hendy]

And this is why Ayn Rand does not have an attraction based on her IP at WDW.

Only my hunch, but I believe she was the inspiration for Edna Mode. Right down to the cigarette holder. So arguably ... yes she does!

 

[durangojim]

This is a pretty cool article on how google can visualize each state or country’s compliance with staying at home https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/3/21206318/google-location-data-mobility-reports-covid-19-privacy

 

[trylon57]

Only my hunch, but I believe she was the inspiration for Edna Mode. Right down to the cigarette holder. So arguably ... yes she does!

Edith Head

 

[MisterPenguin]

If it wasnt rainy, we could get out and not worry about another soul while being outside.
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I've been walking on the beach! Just a 10 minute walk from me. It's not warm enough for swimmers and sunbathers in NJ, so, they're pretty empty. And there's no boardalk or seaside stores/rides/piers/attractions/restaurants nearby, so, it's certainly not a place where big crowds gather anyway.

I do feel bad for the very urban, tho. The benefits of being in a high density environment are gone and have become a deficit.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Set aside Constitutional protections for practicality? Rescind freedom as a way to somehow preserve freedom? No thanks.

The Constitution that protects those freedoms also grants the government that "practical" leeway to temporarily enact measures when there is an emergency. Here's a good summary from Akin Gump (one of the top country's top law firms that regularly argues cases in front of the Supreme Court):

COVID-19: Emergency Powers and Constitutional Limits

KEY POINTS * Our country is in a national state of emergency over COVID-19. Almost every state has declared its own state of emergency, and many states have s

www.akingump.com

To be sure, the government can't just make up new authority during an emergency. Instead, it's about being able to exercise authority to enact restrictions in emergency situations that would be otherwise dormant in normal times. There are also limits to this authority. For instance, restrictions generally need to be temporary, so it's an open question as to which point we cross over from, say, a temporary government closure of a business to a permanent government closure.

However, the overarching point is that anyone arguing an absolutist position that their individual freedom is infringed upon due to the current government restrictions is simply off base and that would be true whether one takes an "originalist" view of the Constitution or a "living document" view of it. The framers of the Constitution were pretty wise and they knew that there would be extraordinary situations in the future where the normal application of the law would need to be adjusted temporarily.

 

[MisterPenguin]

A couple hours late but reading financial and legal analysis by people on this thread who are clearly not attorneys or people with finance backgrounds is great entertainment.

Want a bigger laugh? Read the articles of financial analysts who just two years ago were predicting the downfall of Disney because of ESPN or who've been floating for years the rumor of an Apple buyout. Or who didn't see the Great Recession coming. Those professional finance people are such a hoot!!

 

[PeoplemoverTTA]

If you're going to be snarky about it, spell it right

Considering he has COVID-19 and is still posting here, maybe you could throw him a bone on the spelling thing.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I have been stuck at my house for a month. The numbers are still rising. I'll probably be here another month. I get it, but eventually you just want to say, "Enough. I'll take my chances." The odds are still in your favor.

Is this the part in the movie where the cocky guy who's not going to survive to the end says, "I've had it with these slow moving and sluggish zombies! How hard can it be to stay out of their range? I'm going in!!!

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

The thing is, people are saying that exact thing after only a week or two depending on where you live. That’s the problem. People are already going back out because they think it’s enough. Quick google search will show you all you need. But I understand what you’re saying.

For some people, it's going into week four, like us. I think at least half of the Americans are entering their fourth week, possibly more if you think of places like Washington, New York, and California.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Is this the part in the movie where the cocky guy who's not going to survive to the end says, "I've had it with these slow moving and sluggish zombies! How hard can it be to stay out of their range? I'm going in!!!

Or where the unaware woman, home alone while the most severe storm outside is brewing.. hears that noise in the basement and instead of being safe.. decides to go investigate. Watch out for the ax, you know it’s coming.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

For some people, it's going into week four, like us. I think at least half of the Americans are entering their fourth week, possibly more if you think of places like Washington, New York, and California.

Am I wrong in thinking there was only one or two states a month ago that had stay at home orders? I could be but don’t feel like googling. We are at 2-3 weeks right now.

 

[orlandogal22]

Considering he has COVID-19 and is still posting here, maybe you could throw him a bone on the spelling thing.

I wish him well! Obviously!

Though, in the context of the conversation wherein he was illustrating his point with obvious snark, I stand by my lighthearted comment.

Hence, the winky face emoji I used.

 

[easyrowrdw]

The situation in other countries shows that these measures do bear fruit. The results aren't instant, but they are encouraging. Three months is not a huge amount of time in the grand scheme of things. People have made far greater sacrifices for much longer periods.

Well, yeah, there's always someone who has it worse. I'm fortunate that my job is safe. For those whose jobs aren't and might not come back? It's a pretty big sacrifice.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

Am I wrong in thinking there was only one or two states a month ago that had stay at home orders? I could be but don’t feel like googling. We are at 2-3 weeks right now.

Just because a state may have only started recently issuing stay at home order, doesn't mean cities or counties haven't been issuing them.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Just because a state may have only started recently issuing stay at home order, doesn't mean cities or counties haven't been issuing them.

My point exactly. Some have only just started.. others like what your telling me is a month.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

For some people, it's going into week four, like us. I think at least half of the Americans are entering their fourth week, possibly more if you think of places like Washington, New York, and California.

I'm in MA. On Monday, we'll be starting our 5th week of school closures. 3rd week of non-essential businesses being closed. For my family, it's going to be the 5th week for everyone being home, as hubby was told not to report to work due to his high risk status the same week the schools closed. Once the schools closed, we started voluntarily following stay-at-home guidelines.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Is this the part in the movie where the cocky guy who's not going to survive to the end says, "I've had it with these slow moving and sluggish zombies! How hard can it be to stay out of their range? I'm going in!!!

I'm not cocky. And I'm not going anywhere. I said I understand the frustration of wanting to be done with it when the timeline keeps getting pushed.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

My point exactly. Some have only just started.. others like what your telling me is a month.

So, can you understand why some people, who have been doing this 3-4 weeks may start to feel a bit cooped up? Where I'm at, they just announced stay-at-home orders until May 20th. So now people have another six+ weeks of this. People will continue to get antsy and feeling like what you just described

 

[Jwink]

The parks were still open in 2008. Today the parks are closed. You don't need park workers when the parks are closed.

Well they furloughed all the salaried managers and they're not needed when the employees aren't working too... so stands to reason they'll furlough the union employees too... And some employees might be laid off later but I don't foresee it being skilled laborers who help run the park because those cost a ton to train.