Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Polynesia]

Difference is... people goto work because they NEED resources to stay alive. Not go somewhere, spend 5-10% of their income, and also risk that... while not knowing what the future holds for them.

Earlier in this thread people made the claim that the 100k number being thrown around for stimulus checks would cover most of the fans here (I strongly disagree.. but let's accept the assumption). That means a 5k Disney vacation is what.. 5,10,15% of their take-home money?

There is all kinds of stuff I could be buying right now because people are dumping it cheap... but I'm not because of the uncertainty of what resources I will need in the next 12 months. If can't eat it or protect my family with it... It's highly scrutinized as 'can this wait'

And there are 70,000 plus cast members who also NEED resources to live. Interesting how that point is being glossed over. Your decision to do what’s right for you is your decision. There are people who will still go to the parks because that’s their decision. Your decision isn’t better than theirs. Everyone will do what’s in their best interests.

 

[lilypgirl]

These underlying problems resulting from societies choices over the decades will continue to rear their ugly heads with increasing transparency as this situation moves forward. Many easily ignored them by staying focused on their daily routines and filling the rest of their schedules with entertainment/dining. Now with much of that stripped away, many more are forced to look at the messes that have always been hiding in plain sight.

Wasn't the Mayor of New York City and another city official encouraging people to that a few weeks? I hardly think the blame should be on the residents when they are being told it's OK to do so.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I guess it depends on the personal circumstances of each senior executive. I haven’t heard of other companies doing this. So I applaud them for taking this action. I don’t let class envy cloud my opinion.

Ok, it is a nice gesture. I don't envy the overworked underpaid cast members that work very hard for little pay to make visit to the parks magical....

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Maybe everyone will get a tyvec suit and respirator with admission

There's actually a lot they could do with that.

 

[marni1971]

I agree. They could have furloughed the US workers but didn’t. Thank goodness. If the June 1 date holds cast members should be ok. I never have understood the strong dislike others have for Disney. I think it’s more jealousy than anything.

Where is this June 1 coming from?

You can put you own interpretations on the stats since we lack so much data, but I find this graph somewhat encouraging. The talk for weeks has been "flattening the curve", and this indeed looks like it is flattening. The worst-case of Italy has been flat in new cases for 5-6 days now. and all this in spite of increased world-wide testing, so the flattening might actually be a slight decrease.

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Keep an eye on the Spanish and UK new cases curves over the next week or two.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Keep an eye on the Spanish and UK new cases curves over the next week or two.

Think Spain had a record number yesterday - if I'm not mistaken.

 

[flynnibus]

Besides looking at what is going on with the virus, I am keeping an eye on what will happen to small businesses within the next month or so. I can imagine a good chunk probably don't have more than a couple weeks of cash on hand. It will be devastating for them and their workers. Many may not come back.

The small business 'grants' have given many a glimmer of hope. I expect many more rounds of such government intervention will be required.

A company like Disney is interesting because it's too big for those payroll grants. Makes you wonder at what point does Florida intervene themselves and try to help Orlando.

Magical Express may become mandatory as it will be like getting through mad max world outside of WDW

 

[marni1971]

Think Spain had a record number yesterday - if I'm not mistaken.

That’s why it’s a few weeks that’s needed to see a generalised curve.

 

[techgeek]

I actually went to bed last night trying to scheme how a UV drive-through could be built on attractions to clean ride vehicles. But then quickly got deflated when realizing most attractions don't use separate unload platforms... and of course the problem that UV disinfecting takes way more time than any attraction cycle.

Maybe everyone will get a tyvec suit and respirator with admission

I was thinking along the same lines, but yes there are significant challenges. I was trying to wrap my head around how you even wipe down the basics of some of the Omni-movers... HM, SSE have some time in between unload and load, but not a lot of space to work with and are relatively fast moving.

Something like Peter Pan, Mermaid, Peoplemover where there’s literally seconds between butts up and butts down seems impossible. Give every guest a disposable glove before every ride?

 

[Tom P.]

Where is this June 1 coming from?

Keep an eye on the Spanish and UK new cases curves over the next week or two.

I think it's coming from two places: First, Trump said in his news conference yesterday that he hoped we could regain some sort of normalcy by June 1st. Second, Walt Disney World and Disneyland have announced that they are only accepting reservations for June 1st and later right now.

 

[marni1971]

I think it's coming from two places: First, Trump said in his news conference yesterday that he hoped we could regain some sort of normalcy by June 1st. Second, Walt Disney World and Disneyland have announced that they are only accepting reservations for June 1st and later right now.

Gotcha.

 

[Polynesia]

Where is this June 1 coming from?

Keep an eye on the Spanish and UK new cases curves over the next week or two.

June 1 is when Disney and Disneyland are honoring reservations for hotels and dinners. When I heard Trump speak last night talking about June 1 getting back to some normalcy it clicked that perhaps Disney knew about the April 30 extension and are planning for a June 1 opening. Lake Burns Vista hotels are also giving a June 1 date. The graphs that people look on as gospel show no covid deaths by July.

 

[flynnibus]

And there are 70,000 plus cast members who also NEED resources to live. Interesting how that point is being glossed over. Your decision to do what’s right for you is your decision. There are people who will still go to the parks because that’s their decision. Your decision isn’t better than theirs. Everyone will do what’s in their best interests.

It's not glossed over - it wasn't the point of the post. What work someone does or not varies... but we all mostly goto work for the same reason. To support ourselves.... not because we want to enable other people.

The people working essential roles these days are the ones bearing so much of this risk. I'm so happy that at least some businesses respected that and put proactive raises in place almost right away.

 

[Lilofan]

Ok, it is a nice gesture. I don't envy the overworked underpaid cast members that work very hard for little pay to make visit to the parks magical....

If they think overwork is what they were doing before, pre corona, the reality will be more responsibilities post corona for the cast that still have jobs to go back to.

 

[MaximumEd]

Keep in mind that they did not have to start from scratch on this vaccine. Apparently, they were able to build on what was previously started to deal with other viruses like SARS.

Yeah, I’m sure it’s not that simple as “hey, we can do everything faster” now. Just a thought.

 

[marni1971]

June 1 is when Disney and Disneyland are honoring reservations for hotels and dinners. When I heard Trump speak last night talking about June 1 getting back to some normalcy it clicked that perhaps Disney knew about the April 30 extension and are planning for a June 1 opening. Lake Burns Vista hotels are also giving a June 1 date. The graphs that people look on as gospel show no covid deaths by July.

Gotcha. Please don’t take it as gospel though.

 

[flynnibus]

I was thinking along the same lines, but yes there are significant challenges. I was trying to wrap my head around how you even wipe down the basics of some of the Omni-movers... HM, SSE have some time in between unload and load, but not a lot of space to work with and are relatively fast moving.

Something like Peter Pan, Mermaid, Peoplemover where there’s literally seconds between butts up and butts down seems impossible. Give every guest a disposable glove before every ride?

Rain booths, followed by dryers and staff toweling stuff down? Or even a person operating a sprayer..

Think of your local drive-through car wash with the army of people toweling the car after it comes out..

just spitballing...

 

[Disstevefan1]

If they think overwork is what they were doing before, pre corona, the reality will be more responsibilities post corona for the cast that still have jobs to go back to.

I agree, the front line cast members job post corona will be even more challenging. Just like any other rule, you have guests who understand and comply and you gave guests that ignore them like they are the only ones in the park. We will see what happens.

 

[DCBaker]

Tampa Bay Times going to only Wednesday and Sunday print deliveries.

 

[flynnibus]

And there are 70,000 plus cast members who also NEED resources to live. Interesting how that point is being glossed over. Your decision to do what’s right for you is your decision. There are people who will still go to the parks because that’s their decision. Your decision isn’t better than theirs. Everyone will do what’s in their best interests.

Look at situations like this - https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/29/tech/amazon-workers-walkout-coronavirus/index.html

Look at how 'their best interests' isn't always inline with 'serving customers' -- this can happen in many places we deem 'essential'... nevermind a tourism spot.