Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DisneyDoctor]

All, I really needed a GameStop today.

Never thought I would say that, but I did. Do not trust any and all Target employees on gaming advice for Nintendo Switch. Now I’m the proud owner of 2 gaming headsets as the first one wasn’t compatible, which I should have followed my gut and not trusted the employee. I went back to exchange one for another, but apparently Target is not taking exchanges or returns thru 4/16... so, I had to buy the 2nd one.

Now today my kid now has FB Messenger app for kids, and a mic for Fortnite. 2 things I have never allowed and said I would not allow for at least 2 more years... Coronavirus has made me lax on those rules a bit.

A mic for fortnite is definitely essential..

 

[MisterPenguin]

We had no new deaths today

The projection is based on recent trends which includes the several past days. See the dotted trend line...

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I cannot imagine what anyone here is using as a basis to guess a reopen date for WDW. NO ONE KNOWS. The world's most renowned medical experts cannot give you a date when this would be safe to do. Just ludicrous to make guesses based on free dining offers or anything else -- DISNEY IS GUESSING! And may well be subject to county/state orders when it comes to when they can open anyway. The best predictive models in the world have major weaknesses given the data currently available. I promise you that Disney has NO IDEA. And neither does anyone here. So silly.

 

[GoofGoof]

I cannot imagine what anyone here is using as a basis to guess a reopen date for WDW. NO ONE KNOWS. The world's most renowned medical experts cannot give you a date when this would be safe to do. Just ludicrous to make guesses based on free dining offers or anything else -- DISNEY IS GUESSING! And may well be subject to county/state orders when it comes to when they can open anyway. The best predictive models in the world have major weaknesses given the data currently available. I promise you that Disney has NO IDEA. And neither does anyone here. So silly.

Why bother reading the thread or posting then? That seems so silly. Obviously nobody knows and everyone is guessing at what could happen. I would think that would go without saying.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Why bother reading the thread or posting then? That seems so silly. Obviously nobody knows and everyone is guessing at what could happen. I would think that would go without saying.

Trust me -- I haven't been coming here much at all -- and that was obviously the right call. I happened to take a look just now. What a waste of time. I'll come back after all of this is over months from now. Leave everyone to their crystal balls. Ridiculous.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

Trust me -- I haven't been coming here much at all -- and that was obviously the right call. I happened to take a look just now. What a waste of time. I'll come back after all of this is over months from now. Leave everyone to their crystal balls. Ridiculous.

You’re so cool.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I cannot imagine what anyone here is using as a basis to guess a reopen date for WDW. NO ONE KNOWS. The world's most renowned medical experts cannot give you a date when this would be safe to do. Just ludicrous to make guesses based on free dining offers or anything else -- DISNEY IS GUESSING! And may well be subject to county/state orders when it comes to when they can open anyway. The best predictive models in the world have major weaknesses given the data currently available. I promise you that Disney has NO IDEA. And neither does anyone here. So silly.

To be fair, if you know the rate of contagion, recovery, and death *for sure*, then mathematically, you can predict the time when the majority of the population has immunity from having recovered (or removed from the population due to death). Then, based on 'herd immunity', you know when new cases will no longer overwhelm health facilities.

Now, you'll still need some isolation of the high-risk groups and continued good hygiene to protect them.

Models, for now, are putting mid to late April as the peak. May 1 is the time when things will noticeably be on the decline. A whole month later on June 1... that seem reasonable for starting to get back to normal.

Throw in finally having test kits for the disease and tests for having antigens (had the disease, recovered, now immune)... things start looking even better.

 

[GoofGoof]

Trust me -- I haven't been coming here much at all -- and that was obviously the right call. I happened to take a look just now. What a waste of time. I'll come back after all of this is over months from now. Leave everyone to their crystal balls. Ridiculous.

Sorry it’s not your cup of tea. The thread is called Coronavirus and Walt Disney World so I’m not sure why it’s surprising that anyone would be talking about that. For the first time in a while the thread is actually on topic, mostly.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

To be fair, if you know the rate of contagion, recovery, and death *for sure*, then mathematically, you can predict the time when the majority of the population has immunity from having recovered (or removed from the population due to death). Then, based on 'herd immunity', you know when new cases will no longer overwhelm health facilities.

Now, you'll still need some isolation of the high-risk groups and continued good hygiene to protect them.

Models, for now, are putting mid to late April as the peak. May 1 is the time when things will noticeably be on the decline. A whole month later on June 1... that seem reasonable for starting to get back to normal.

Throw in finally having test kits for the disease and tests for having antigens (had the disease, recovered, now immune)... things start looking even better.

I understand how these models work. Look up FL in the model Birx cited today as aligning with the task force's: https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections. How does this look? Peak is early May for FL there. So June 1 WDW opening?? Not if that model is right.

The assumptions in any model are weak at this point because we don't have enough data in this country. And there's plenty of science on how to ramp up -- all easy to find. The question is when. And the answer is they don't know.

Disney doesn't know anything more than anyone paying attention to models knows. They just don't. So the dates they are choosing should not be read into. And there's a whole question about when it would make sense for places like WDW to open -- those that act like viral hubs. That's not the same as your local restaurant. Too many unknowns to guess at any date.

 

[VaderTron]

So....It's March 28th. And I just got this notice on my Iphone:

Public Safety Alert
FL Surgeon General: Stay home if 65+ or have medical conditions. All follow social distancing.

Gee thanks. Now I guess I'll pay attention. Sometimes I wonder about our public officials.

It's quite easy to explain. Very common situation, in fact. They put a student intern in charge of all public safety SMS duties. He got caught up in an endless online gaming cycle the past few weeks. When a supervisor finally checked in on him they were appalled and demanded he clean up the piles of half-eaten pizza boxes, empty Rockstar cans, and send out the public safety alert SMS. After a dramatic sigh, and mouthy complaints he took 25 seconds to type out the message and send.

Much more important than those fictional ramblings... @scorp16 I would like you to know I prefer your previous profile picture. I thought I would get used to the new one, but honestly it's not growing on me. In a time when everything I used to like has changed, and not for the better, bringing back your old profile picture would be comforting.

 

[Touchdown]

Well I pulled the trigger on canceling my April 28-May 4 trip. I was able to grab the last standard room available at the AP rate at the Poly for a late June trip, and managed to get reservations for the same restaurants as my May trip other the Ohana (going to BOG instead.)

 

[Thelazer]

Models, for now, are putting mid to late April as the peak. May 1 is the time when things will noticeably be on the decline. A whole month later on June 1... that seem reasonable for starting to get back to normal.

The models are using bad data, way to much assumptions and etc.

Everyone's going to be shocked when they find out we are further into this than they think and the over reaction has been way to much.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

The models are using bad data, way to much assumptions and etc.

Everyone's going to be shocked when they find out we are further into this than they think and the over reaction has been way to much.

Can you provide evidence to support your claims?

I tend to trust experts..

 

[Phil12]

To be fair, if you know the rate of contagion, recovery, and death *for sure*, then mathematically, you can predict the time when the majority of the population has immunity from having recovered (or removed from the population due to death). Then, based on 'herd immunity', you know when new cases will no longer overwhelm health facilities.

Now, you'll still need some isolation of the high-risk groups and continued good hygiene to protect them.

Models, for now, are putting mid to late April as the peak. May 1 is the time when things will noticeably be on the decline. A whole month later on June 1... that seem reasonable for starting to get back to normal.

Throw in finally having test kits for the disease and tests for having antigens (had the disease, recovered, now immune)... things start looking even better.

I agree except for the math part. My computations predict that we will just begin to start returning to normal about June 1, 2022.

 

[flynnibus]

I think people worried when their vacation will be need their head checked. This train is just starting to build steam...

How to holiday should be the lowest thing in your list of worries right now.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I think people worried when their vacation will be need their head checked. This train is just starting to build steam...

How to holiday should be the lowest thing in your list of worries right now.

I think for some it’s a way to escape for a little bit. I had 2 conferences planned that were canceled due to the virus, and they were both bright lights for me in an otherwise very stressful time. Having this as only increased the existing stress. I didn’t have a WDW vacation planned any time soon, but we are supposed to go to OBX this summer, and I’m not going to lie, I am holding onto hope that will still happen because I need that light at the end of this very stressful tunnel right now. Those conferences were going to be significant stress relievers, and not having them plus having even more stress is not helping me right now.

 

[eliza61nyc]

I think people worried when their vacation will be need their head checked. This train is just starting to build steam...

How to holiday should be the lowest thing in your list of worries right now.

I don't think it's an either/or situation. I'm sure if someone thinks their job is on the line they're also concerned about a trip they probably already invested a few grand on.

Also in a way, thinking about when WDW reopens is also indirectly seeing an end to this nightmare

I have a trip reserved for August, no it's not first on my mind but eventually I have to decide what to do about it.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

I think people worried when their vacation will be need their head checked. This train is just starting to build steam...

How to holiday should be the lowest thing in your list of worries right now.

It’s a train that will keep going for a year. So people can either stay inside and just be in doom and gloom mood through it all or you can figure out what the next step looks like.

My family and I haven’t really had a vacation in two years as we have a new baby, I’ve switched jobs, etc. This is something we are looking forward to IF the parks reopen by late May. Wife and I were looking at a trip for ourselves in December 2021.

This thought of nothing else matters is definitely a way for some, but not for everyone and I’m pretty tired of seeing the condescension from people because people are thinking about travel when restrictions are lifted. People are relying on people doing just that so their lives can return some form of normal when this starts to calm down. Life just doesn’t cease to exist when it’s all said and done.

 

[worldfanatic]

I think people worried when their vacation will be need their head checked. This train is just starting to build steam...

How to holiday should be the lowest thing in your list of worries right now.

This is a site & thread revolving around Disney World. Of course we're gonna be talking about how this pandemic impacts our vacations.
If you want to get deeper about Coronavirus, there's probably a thousand other places to do so.
Go there.

 

[Nunu]

I think people worried when their vacation will be need their head checked. This train is just starting to build steam...

How to holiday should be the lowest thing in your list of worries right now.

"How to holiday" is one of the lowest things on my list of worries right now.
Trust me, I'm well aware about the current situation, it's hard for me not to think about the virus all day long. I'm having trouble sleeping and have lost my appetite. Thank goodness, I'm fine, but I can't even clear my throat or sneeze without being afraid I've gotten sick, and could potentially pass it on somebody else. I'm also worried about my senior dad's health who lives by himself and also depends on our income. Granted, some might be acting selfish and irresponsible, but please, don't generalize. This is a health and economic crisis affecting the whole world.

Many of us are also keeping an eye on news coming from Disney for different personal reasons. Take us for example, we need to make a decision soon, about a planned early May WDW trip.

Maybe some of us need to compartmentalize from time to time. Nothing wrong with that, imo.