Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Lilofan]

I wouldn’t say no concern, but we know a little more and no what it would take to prevent getting the virus. Have you entered your bunker with two months of food supplies and plan not to leave for that amount of time? If the answer is no then you are at risk! Also after old people and people with chronic diseases do you know who is the next group most at risk? It’s healthcare workers, Joe Prepper stocking up on Purell and N95 masks is hoarding something we need at work more then him.

And if we are told to isolate at home, are the bill collectors going to give us a grace period?

 

[Touchdown]

And if we are told to isolate at home, are the bill collectors going to give us a grace period?

Have you been fit tested for an N95 mask? Do you know your size and brand? Do you know how to use them properly? If not these things are worthless to you.

There is caution and there is panic, you are leaning towards the latter. No health official in this country is advocating for hermit living.

 

[Lilofan]

Have you been fit tested for an N95 mask? Do you know your size and brand? Do you know how to use them properly? If not these things are worthless to you.

There is caution and there is panic, you are leaning towards the latter. No health official in this country is advocating for hermit living.

I agree. I just don't to your sarcasm.

 

[Piebald]

That's really sad that none of your medical professional friends don't have a concern.

Wel

Have you been fit tested for an N95 mask? Do you know your size and brand? Do you know how to use them properly? If not these things are worthless to you.

There is caution and there is panic, you are leaning towards the latter. No health official in this country is advocating for hermit living.

Took me like 7 fittings to get the right N95 mask when I worked in an ER.

 

[larryz]

You're doing nothing but providing misinformation, please stop. If you have a medical degree and a peer reviewed paper, please present it. Until then, stop. Your argument is nothing better than an antivaxer's argument on how vaccines somehow cause autism.

Your argument additionally falls flat on it's face, because if everything you said is true how do you know the mortality rate isn't 50%. I mean, maybe all these flu deaths, car crashes, cancer deaths and "natural causes" weren't actually the virus!

I would warn everyone to stop believing random people on forums over your local government, peer reviewed scientific articles and the WHO.

Based on the CDC's performance thus far -- Centers for what? -- I think the information coming out of the collective netiverse is probably a tad more reliable if you sift it for the obvious FUDmongering posts.

 

[Parker in NYC]

Based on the CDC's performance thus far -- Centers for what? -- I think the information coming out of the collective netiverse is probably a tad more reliable if you sift it for the obvious FUDmongering posts.

I blame the Skyliner.

 

[durangojim]

Wel

Took me like 7 fittings to get the right N95 mask when I worked in an ER.

At least you get to taste that sweet nectar every time it doesn't fit right

 

[larryz]

I never knew that WDWMagic had so many epidemiologist

....or epistemologists...

 

[BoarderPhreak]

TBH, if I had a trip planned to WDW (and assuming things like flights haven't been cancelled, etc.) I'd still go. But if I were thinking about taking a trip... I'd wait. For one, there's no telling how far covid-19 will go, nor the impact it will have on both flights and WDW itself. That said, you could probably score some deals on flights right about now - the airlines are getting hammered with some comparing the effect to post-9/11. Clearly WDW won't be dropping prices. Either way, get yourself some good travel insurance.

 

[bennyw01]

As someone who will/would fly in to Disney from outside the US, my worries, not in order, are:

a) USA bans people from my country (unlikely, as we have too few cases and even if it rises it won't surpass the US anytime soon, if at all) ;
b) My country bans flights to/from the USA (possible);
c) My company orders me to self quarantine for two weeks when I get back (likely, they're doing it for Japan and the US is catching up in numbers. However, this wouldn't mean I'd be without getting paid for 2 weeks, though it does harm my work);
d) The parks close but companies don't cancel flights, meaning I don't get a refund, lose money and have nothing to do in Orlando

This is exactly my concern, fly out April 26th from the UK, thinking about just renting a house down in Marco Island for a couple of weeks and going fishing if worst comes to worst with the parks.

 

[durangojim]

TBH, if I had a trip planned to WDW (and assuming things like flights haven't been cancelled, etc.) I'd still go. But if I were thinking about taking a trip... I'd wait. For one, there's no telling how far covid-19 will go, nor the impact it will have on both flights and WDW itself. That said, you could probably score some deals on flights right about now - the airlines are getting hammered with some comparing the effect to post-9/11. Clearly WDW won't be dropping prices. Either way, get yourself some good travel insurance.

Something to make sure is that your travel insurance will cover a pandemic. Many won't.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

But somehow the hundred or more Americans dying every day from the standard Flu strain ciruclating never makes the news, winter after winter, year after year. Funny how that works.

This just isn't true.


I don't know what you are talking about.

We are told repeatedly to get a flu shot every year and why through a wide variety of sources.

The news loves to issue frequent updates on the virulence of each year's strain of flu, and how effective the flu shot is working. We are bombarded with it all winter every year.

Every pharmacy, dr office has a big sign advertising free flu shots.

Since most big chain grocery stores and big box stores now have pharmacies, most of those stores also have BIG red signs advertising free flu shots.

Senior care facilities have big signs up warning visitors of the risk the flu poses to residents. While I can't vouch for every facility in the USA, the ones I have visited all had staff making sure every person entering signs-in and sanitizes. Plus big signs explaining why.

Local governments and school systems regularly issue updates on the annual flu, and distribute warnings throughout the community.

Further, if there is even the tiniest outbreak of any other vaccine prevented illness, the media is absolutely plastered with information about it. Don't you remember the HUGE media blitz when someone at DL had the measles in 2014? The media covered it ad nauseum!

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Something to make sure is that your travel insurance will cover a pandemic. Many won't.

Good point. Also, why am I not surprised? Doesn't this fall under "Act of God" though? FWIW, WDW will likely be very accommodating should you need to cancel and the airlines are largely offering a waiver or reduction on change fees. Best to do all your homework at any rate.

 

[Parker in NYC]

....or epistemologists...

Red, white, and BOOM!

 

[Incomudro]

Have you been fit tested for an N95 mask? Do you know your size and brand? Do you know how to use them properly? If not these things are worthless to you.

There is caution and there is panic, you are leaning towards the latter. No health official in this country is advocating for hermit living.

You DO understand that this virus is not airborne, don't you?
That is, it is in the mist of a recent sneeze or cough of the infected - and one could catch it that way if they were withing inhalation distance when that happens.
But the virus does not otherwise drift among the air like pollen.

 

[lisa12000]

This is exactly my concern, fly out April 26th from the UK, thinking about just renting a house down in Marco Island for a couple of weeks and going fishing if worst comes to worst with the parks.

We are heading out on the same day and looking for a plan B just in case!

 

[Touchdown]

You DO understand that this virus is not airborne, don't you?

it is according to the cdc

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a virus (more specifically, a coronavirus) identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Parker in NYC]

it is according to the cdc

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a virus (more specifically, a coronavirus) identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China.

www.cdc.gov

I think it's because COVID-19 doesn't remain in the air for hours at a time like some other viruses, like measles/rubeola (see, I wanted to edit that last part before someone pounced).

 

[Incomudro]

I looked this up, and apparently hot water can’t kill the germs directly, but it’s better than cold. Apparently some germs can live on oils in hands and only warm or hot water can remove them.

Soap and warm water certainly lifts oils off better than soap and cold water.
Isn't the water that comes out of Disney's restroom sinks - the ones that are motion activated - warm?
I don't recall, but it's not outright cold water like from the cold line of the tap.

it is according to the cdc

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a virus (more specifically, a coronavirus) identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China.

www.cdc.gov

Close contact caring for a patient (an infected patient) over prolonged periods of time.
The virus is not otherwise amongst the air.

 

[Dead2009]

it is according to the cdc

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a virus (more specifically, a coronavirus) identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China.

www.cdc.gov

Yeah, only if it's in close contact

"There is much to learn about the newly emerged COVID-19, including how and how easily it spreads. Based on what is currently known about COVID-19 and what is known about other coronaviruses, spread is thought to occur mostly from person-to-person via respiratory droplets among close contacts.

Close contact can occur while caring for a patient, including:

being within approximately 6 feet (2 meters) of a patient with COVID-19 for a prolonged period of time.
having direct contact with infectious secretions from a patient with COVID-19. Infectious secretions may include sputum, serum, blood, and respiratory droplets."

So if someone has it and they're on the other side of the room, chances are high you wont get it.