Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Vegas Disney Fan

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My wife and I are here at Disney this week (both shots and two boosters each Moderna) and have seen very few masks at all, mostly worn by incoming resort guests. Given the current numbers of guests milling about, I hope nothing is silently spreading.
We just got back from DL last night and we are noticing fewer and fewer masks every trip, outside it’s extremely rare but indoors it’s probably 5-10% still.

I can’t say for sure if that’s because fewer people are wearing them or if it’s just become so normal we don’t notice them anymore.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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It's why we have immune systems.
Look at the NYC subway system: Some 2 million people ride that thing every day (I did it for 35 years) often stuffed in shoulder to shoulder, and sometimes sharing that car with a homeless person or two - who carries who knows what?
But the population of NYC doesn't fall ill on a daily basis,

I always wonder how much our environment affects (strengthens) our immune system.

Working in a casino we always joke that our immune systems are on steroids, we deal with thousands of people, from all over the world, every day. Compared To someone that works at home and only comes across a few people while out shopping we should be sick much more often, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
 

Incomudro

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I always wonder how much our environment affects (strengthens) our immune system.

Working in a casino we always joke that our immune systems are on steroids, we deal with thousands of people, from all over the world, every day. Compared To someone that works at home and only comes across a few people while out shopping we should be sick much more often, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
I understand that it's a proven thing that immune systems need exposure to work on and build strength.
 

mmascari

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While I certainly hope we don't get a variant that makes the vaccines drop to such a low level of efficacy, as long as N95 respirators continue to be highly effective at destination control, why would any mask requirements be necessary even under your nightmare scenario.

Under that type of scenario, I would imagine a high percentage of people would voluntarily wear N95 respirators to protect themselves but I still don't see any reason to require them even in that situation.
We do all kinds of things for public health reasons. This isn't something magic and special that's different.

If conditions got that bad, I would expect all kinds of public health measures to come back.

It's like saying, why does the grocery store need to be clean. Everyone can just wash their stuff when they get home. It'll be fine.
 

correcaminos

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There has to be some type of N95 respirator that can fit you even if it is one of the "gas mask" style ones made for construction work. Otherwise, you or somebody with your face size would not be able to ever get certain healthcare jobs, even prior to COVID, where they were used as PPE (mostly for patients with suspected or confirmed Tuberculosis).
I have said this repeatedly. I have a child's size face. There are zero, and I mean zero, N95s for kids. Best I can do is a KN94. Hospitals do have access to items I do not though. All said I have a friend who no longer works in medical field thanks to covid burn out who could not be properly fitted when they were working. So yes, it happens.

I'm sorry if I am rather unkind about this, but this isn't the first time you said N95 for all. No kids are covered with that. Small adults too. And yes, I go to kids sizes for my hats and gloves. Mask wearing was impossible the first few months until a friend made some for me.
 

ABQ

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Not entirely form what I have read https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems

Anecdotal to the contrary, friends who are teachers get sick way more often than I do.

Childhood over cleanliness seems to be an issue. Not so much for adults?
Doesn't that article seem to contradict itself a bit? It refers to this study, for example https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9200634/ which seems to imply that those who have a strong social circle are less likely to catch even a common cold. Though I cannot read the entire text without a login. But that study does seem to imply that if you are socially active, you're less likely to catch the rhinovirus they tested with than if you are anti-social (which I'd argue social distancing falls into that category)

Though the MIT article came out in May 2020, when were just a couple months into 2 weeks to slow the spread. If they were to write it today, maybe they'd have a different point of view.
 

correcaminos

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Doesn't that article seem to contradict itself a bit? It refers to this study, for example https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9200634/ which seems to imply that those who have a strong social circle are less likely to catch even a common cold. Though I cannot read the entire text without a login. But that study does seem to imply that if you are socially active, you're less likely to catch the rhinovirus they tested with than if you are anti-social (which I'd argue social distancing falls into that category)

Though the MIT article came out in May 2020, when were just a couple months into 2 weeks to slow the spread. If they were to write it today, maybe they'd have a different point of view.
The social circle is about emotional/mental health. Not physical. Strong social circle does not mean you are always out with them more.

It's well known that those who do not have strong circles suffered more mentally.
 

ABQ

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The social circle is about emotional/mental health. Not physical. Strong social circle does not mean you are always out with them more.

It's well known that those who do not have strong circles suffered more mentally.
That's absolutely possible, but again, without reading the full text or getting data on the physical movements of the test candidates, one cannot know if those people are socially active in only a remote manner or if they are the type that go and visit family members and friends daily, weekly, monthly. I wouldn't assume they are all socially active shut ins, would you?
 

Incomudro

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Not entirely form what I have read https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems

Anecdotal to the contrary, friends who are teachers get sick way more often than I do.

Childhood over cleanliness seems to be an issue. Not so much for adults?
Yes, I was referring to childhood over cleanliness.
The quest to have a sterile world for children, and not letting them play outdoors or even in groups like they used to.
And this goes back for decades already, because it was in full swing when my son's were born 20 years ago.
 

Nubs70

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Funny, thats the opposite of how I was raised. Go out side until my parents got tired and if I managed to get hurt laughed at it it wasn't serious. Learning experience.
Me too. Would play in houses being built in my subdivision. Dirt clod fights, nail punctures, 2x4 in the face. Learned a lot about construction by age 7. I wonder if that experience is why I ended up as an Engineer
 

correcaminos

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That's absolutely possible, but again, without reading the full text or getting data on the physical movements of the test candidates, one cannot know if those people are socially active in only a remote manner or if they are the type that go and visit family members and friends daily, weekly, monthly. I wouldn't assume they are all socially active shut ins, would you?
I would say I had a very cautious group because so many were living with super high risk. We only met outdoors socially distanced or zoomed. We had each other's back when someone was sick or the like though. So yes, you can be socially active but not exposing yourself much. We had weekly zooms with my close knit group. We were close prior to covid though.
Yes, I was referring to childhood over cleanliness.
The quest to have a sterile world for children, and not letting them play outdoors or even in groups like they used to.
And this goes back for decades already, because it was in full swing when my son's were born 20 years ago.
Ah then yes! I totally agree on that! We were not hand santizers. Washed hands normally and such. We didn't over clean. Lots of playground days and all that. As much for my sanity as my kid. Also because dirt won't kill you.
 

Bullseye1967

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I would say I had a very cautious group because so many were living with super high risk. We only met outdoors socially distanced or zoomed. We had each other's back when someone was sick or the like though. So yes, you can be socially active but not exposing yourself much. We had weekly zooms with my close knit group. We were close prior to covid though.

Ah then yes! I totally agree on that! We were not hand santizers. Washed hands normally and such. We didn't over clean. Lots of playground days and all that. As much for my sanity as my kid. Also because dirt won't kill you.
Whatever hand sanitizer WDW had last time we were there was wicked strong. The skin was peeling off the palms of my hands by our third day. It was worse than the powdered lye soap they had in the restrooms years ago.
 

correcaminos

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Whatever hand sanitizer WDW had last time we were there was wicked strong. The skin was peeling off the palms of my hands by our third day. It was worse than the powdered lye soap they had in the restrooms years ago.
Holy 💩 that's crazy!

An aside, I loved that soap though lol

As long as you are immunized to tetanus amiright? ;) 😂
As soon as I hit submit, I wondered when someone was going to say something like that 😆
 
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