Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Nubs70]

1) media and public health professionals
2) behavior was to obtain mask wearing, vaccination and social distancing.

Didn't say the goal was wrong. Just that I no longer trust what they're saying. They overplayed it with each variant being 80% more transmissible than the last..

And they didn't just say "more" transmissible. Last one was 80% more and now this one is 80% more transmissible than that one. And that was all after the original and delta variants that were already the most contagious things ever.

If a new variant is 80% more transmissable than the original and a second variant is 80% more transmissable than the first variant, the second variant is 86.4% more transmissable than the first or, in layman's terms, a little bit.

 

[Heelz2315]

Does anyone have a good link to the Covid Hospitalizations in orange co? That may be a good thing to keep your eye on if things begin to go sideways, in regards to WDW bringing back masks). If the hospitalizations stay out of the high range I don't think Disney will act. C

 

[correcaminos]

Does anyone have a good link to the Covid Hospitalizations in orange co? That may be a good thing to keep your eye on if things begin to go sideways, in regards to WDW bringing back masks). If the hospitalizations stay out of the high range I don't think Disney will act. C

Unless hospitals are overwhelmed completely I don't think they'll act. Even then globally masks and restrictions are dropping. Even Germany is done.

 

[ABQ]

Does anyone have a good link to the Covid Hospitalizations in orange co? That may be a good thing to keep your eye on if things begin to go sideways, in regards to WDW bringing back masks). If the hospitalizations stay out of the high range I don't think Disney will act. C

Not county level, but state level:

Source: https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization

 

[ToTBellHop]

Does anyone have a good link to the Covid Hospitalizations in orange co? That may be a good thing to keep your eye on if things begin to go sideways, in regards to WDW bringing back masks). If the hospitalizations stay out of the high range I don't think Disney will act. C

via NYT:

 

[Heelz2315]

Unless hospitals are overwhelmed completely I don't think they'll act. Even then globally masks and restrictions are dropping. Even Germany is done.

Thanks for the links guys! Really Germany has dropped mitigations? They're cases are going nuts....wow....didn't know that

 

[correcaminos]

Thanks for the links guys! Really Germany has dropped mitigations? They're cases are going nuts....wow....didn't know that

Similar to us, only on transportation, medical places and nursing/care homes https://www.dw.com/en/germany-lifts-most-covid-19-restrictions-after-difficult-compromise/a-61174654

 

[ToTBellHop]

Thanks for the links guys! Really Germany has dropped mitigations? They're cases are going nuts....wow....didn't know that

Cases? Sure. Deaths have not changed by much, presumably due to vaccines.

I think most countries have realized no one else is getting vaccinated and it is time to move on.

 

[Andrew C]

Cases? Sure. Deaths have not changed by much, presumably due to vaccines.
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Vaccines, less severe variant, less comorbidities. It all helps.

 

[Bob Harlem]

No official weekly report this week from Florida since they are bi-weekly now, but they still report to the CDC, it's 8051 for the week, or down 22% from the last week, 7 day average at lows not seen since the start of the pandemic in 2020 (Early June 2020). Hospitalization numbers for Florida are at all time lows again. And positivity is now 2.3% in Orange County, which is lower than it ever got pre-omicron.

https://twitter.com/DohOrange

BA2 is already in Florida and has been since early January, Germany, Hong Kong, South Korea had no omicron complete prior waves to blunt it. So if there is any bump from it, it likely won't be much here to change anything. Florida's waves have historically been closer in behavior to South Africa and India (Where BA2 did not do much, but they had a much bigger full BA1 wave) over the UK and much of Europe. The thing about SK and Hong Kong, (And Germany) where masking rules are some of the strongest, it's currently exploding. The UK has never really followed the pattern of other countries, and I'm not sure why.

 

[Andrew C]

No official weekly report this week from Florida since they are bi-weekly now, but they still report to the CDC, it's 8051 for the week, or down 22% from the last week, 7 day average at lows not seen since the start of the pandemic in 2020 (Early June 2020). Hospitalization numbers for Florida are at all time lows again. And positivity is now 2.3% in Orange County, which is lower than it ever got pre-omicron.

https://twitter.com/DohOrange

BA2 is already in Florida and has been since early January, Germany, Hong Kong, South Korea had no omicron complete prior waves to blunt it. So if there is any bump from it, it likely won't be much here to change anything. Florida's waves have historically been closer in behavior to South Africa and India (Where BA2 did not do much, but they had a much bigger full BA1 wave) over the UK and much of Europe.

It seems this point in the pandemic is quite unprecedented...unprecedented since it all started that is. Previously, the lulls were never quite complete as a nation and we always knew the next variant was on its way based on mumblings around the world...this is different, or feels different...we will see what happens.

 

[mmascari]

It seems this point in the pandemic is quite unprecedented...unprecedented since it all started that is.

The CDC data site is not currently loading for me, not sure if it's me or everyone. However, I feel that it's safe to say at this point in the pandemic we have a larger percentage of people vaccinated or previously infected than at any prior time since it started.

 

[JAB]

Looks like WDW might be rolling back more mitigations. I'm seeing reports/photos of plexiglass being removed from retail registers, and the Dapper Dans back performing on Main Street instead of up in the train station balcony.

 

[correcaminos]

Looks like WDW might be rolling back more mitigations. I'm seeing reports/photos of plexiglass being removed from retail registers, and the Dapper Dans back performing on Main Street instead of up in the train station balcony.

We saw the Dapper Dans Tuesday on Main St just outisde of the shops by the entrance hub. Still lots of plexiglass up. 3 Caballeros did which annoys me.

We had lunch at Whispering Canyon Cafe Weds and ketchup was back in its full glory! No pony races yet though.

 

[SingleRider]

Unless hospitals are overwhelmed completely I don't think they'll act. Even then globally masks and restrictions are dropping. Even Germany is done.

They went against then-current public CDC guidance when they dropped masks in February of this year.

 

[JAB]

We saw the Dapper Dans Tuesday on Main St just outisde of the shops by the entrance hub. Still lots of plexiglass up. 3 Caballeros did which annoys me.

We had lunch at Whispering Canyon Cafe Weds and ketchup was back in its full glory! No pony races yet though.

I wonder if the fact that they're removing plexiglass from retail registers (only seeing reports from shops in Epcot so far, though) is any indication of the remaining plexiglass being removed from ride queues soon. Not worth speculating, I suppose. What queues still have plexiglass besides 3 Caballeros and (IIRC) Tower of Terror?

 

[Heelz2315]

They went against then-current public CDC guidance when they dropped masks in February of this year.

That’s why Disney’s metics make no sense

 

[TehPuddingMan]

I wonder if the fact that they're removing plexiglass from retail registers (only seeing reports from shops in Epcot so far, though) is any indication of the remaining plexiglass being removed from ride queues soon. Not worth speculating, I suppose. What queues still have plexiglass besides 3 Caballeros and (IIRC) Tower of Terror?

MMRR has plexi glass on the switchback after the pre show.

 

[SingleRider]

MMRR has plexi glass on the switchback after the pre show.

I believe Test Track has some in the standby queue. And they have plexiglass barriers between the front/back rows in the area where you scan your band and wait to board the cars. Slinky has some as well in the queue IIRC.

 

[correcaminos]

I wonder if the fact that they're removing plexiglass from retail registers (only seeing reports from shops in Epcot so far, though) is any indication of the remaining plexiglass being removed from ride queues soon. Not worth speculating, I suppose. What queues still have plexiglass besides 3 Caballeros and (IIRC) Tower of Terror?

I didn't do ToT due to physical issues. It's one of few rides I don't tolerate. The Land had removed most, if not all Plexiglass. I do not recall seeing any at Test Track at this point. Or if they were there, it wasn’t noticeable. Still up at the resorts I looked at, through more than one CM would walk around to talk when possible.