Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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GimpYancIent

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Ok so let’s say that’s true. Can they get away endless price increases during a recession?

The raise prices every 3 month strategy can’t last forever.
True, but, current management will push and double down to squeeze every penny possible out of everyone they can. Some will have the financial wherewithal and will not care while others use credit cards, Debit cards, take out loans or second mortgages because Disney says just give us money and you can be "The Magic". What was it Tom Cruise said in one movie "Show Me The Money". Specially now that COVID19 is falling off the headlines.
 

GoofGoof

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If that happens, maybe they would sell some sort of ticket that's good for a whole year and is affordable for their loyal guests. I'm not sure what they'd call such a thing, but it wouldn't need a catchy name if it comes with the occasional free magnet.
No free magnets. You will have the privilege of paying $49.99 for said magnet. It’s a recession and the mouse has to eat too ;)
 

TikibirdLand

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No free magnets. You will have the privilege of paying $49.99 for said magnet. It’s a recession and the mouse has to eat too ;)
I remember that line from The Fiddler on the Roof...

(Lazar) "Here, Reb Nahum, is one kopek."
(Beggar) "One kopek? Last week you geve me two kopeks."
(Lazar) "I had a bad week."
(Beggar) "So, if you had a bad week, why should I suffer?"
 

DisneyCane

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Could this happen in the US in three weeks? I’m hoping we get through Labor Day with a Covid free summer


There is likely never going to be a COVID free summer. Of course it can happen in the US. There has been evidence (that nobody wants to believe) that the protection from the vaccines wanes pretty quickly. There was a huge study out of Switzerland (I think, possibly Sweden) pre-Omicron that concluded that protection, especially in males, was pretty much gone after 90 days. The hope was/is that the booster dose makes it last longer, at least against severe illness.

I fully expect there to be future waves that show up every few months. Honestly, I'd be pleasantly surprised if there wasn't a new wave by memorial day, let alone labor day.

The only way the endless cycle will be stopped is if a vaccine is developed that is highly effective against a broad range of variants and is able to prevent infection at a very high level of efficacy.

It just is what it is. Maybe natural immunity lasts longer (which could be a benefit to certain areas of the USA) because, at least so far, the curve in South Africa (which was not highly vaccinated like the UK) does not show any signs of a similar uptick.
 

correcaminos

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Could this happen in the US in three weeks? I’m hoping we get through Labor Day with a Covid free summer


I just said on another thread. This man picked one region that didn't have a decline like other regions of the world. Something could be up with UK or who knows what, but look around the other areas. UK never dropped like SA or even the majority of the US is. Why? That's the question
There is likely never going to be a COVID free summer. Of course it can happen in the US. There has been evidence (that nobody wants to believe) that the protection from the vaccines wanes pretty quickly. There was a huge study out of Switzerland (I think, possibly Sweden) pre-Omicron that concluded that protection, especially in males, was pretty much gone after 90 days. The hope was/is that the booster dose makes it last longer, at least against severe illness.

I fully expect there to be future waves that show up every few months. Honestly, I'd be pleasantly surprised if there wasn't a new wave by memorial day, let alone labor day.

The only way the endless cycle will be stopped is if a vaccine is developed that is highly effective against a broad range of variants and is able to prevent infection at a very high level of efficacy.

It just is what it is. Maybe natural immunity lasts longer (which could be a benefit to certain areas of the USA) because, at least so far, the curve in South Africa (which was not highly vaccinated like the UK) does not show any signs of a similar uptick.
Maybe not covid free, but very likely not a concern. Last summer was not a concern for us at all. I don't expect new variants that will take us out. Even omicron didn't stress my area like Delta did and cases were much less higher. I do guess something else is up with the UK but cannot guess what.
 

James J

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I do guess something else is up with the UK but cannot guess what.
A couple of weeks ago the government here removed all of the laws around isolating if you get Covid, so it wouldn't surprise me if the uptick is being caused by it being spread from those not staying at home and mixing with others.
 

correcaminos

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A couple of weeks ago the government here removed all of the laws around isolating if you get Covid, so it wouldn't surprise me if the uptick is being caused by it being spread from those not staying at home and mixing with others.
I wonder honestly what else as numbers stopped falling at fast rates before then. To compare here, there were always recommendations here but no laws. People have been returning to work as soon as 3 or 4 days later. Scotland seems to be the worst too.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
US hospitalizations are also lower than the numbers prior to the omicron surge but not yet as low as prior to the delta surge.
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Heppenheimer

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Good news- the 14 day average hospitalization and ICU rates are down 43 and 44%, respectively. Death rates are down by 26%. Plus, the national supply of therapeutics, including paxlovid and sotromivab, is now much more adequate to meet the demand.

News that might be bad (we don't know yet): the BA2 subvariant of omicron now has risen from 0% in January to just below 12% of all COVID cases now. This variant is somewhat more resistant to the existing therapeutics. At least initially, it appears that being fully vaccinated and boosted gives the same level of protection as from the other variants of omicron, but the data isn't completely convincing yet. No need to panic but worth watching. At worst, this might prove more deadly for those who still are not vaccinated, but probably won't be any worse for those who have already received the vaccines.
 

correcaminos

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Good news- the 14 day average hospitalization and ICU rates are down 43 and 44%, respectively. Death rates are down by 26%. Plus, the national supply of therapeutics, including paxlovid and sotromivab, is now much more adequate to meet the demand.

News that might be bad (we don't know yet): the BA2 subvariant of omicron now has risen from 0% in January to just below 12% of all COVID cases now. This variant is somewhat more resistant to the existing therapeutics. At least initially, it appears that being fully vaccinated and boosted gives the same level of protection as from the other variants of omicron, but the data isn't completely convincing yet. No need to panic but worth watching. At worst, this might prove more deadly for those who still are not vaccinated, but probably won't be any worse for those who have already received the vaccines.
I've been watching the variant too. One thing I will say is that the levels haven't risen as sharp as omicron (original) did. Looking at other countries with large cases of it, I watch but am not concerned. S Africa follows it too and saw this preliminary data https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.02.17.22271030v1

Definitely not concerning to me. Looking forward to spring break starting tomorrow afternoon. To avoid an early flight on DST change day, we leave Monday.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Good news- the 14 day average hospitalization and ICU rates are down 43 and 44%, respectively. Death rates are down by 26%. Plus, the national supply of therapeutics, including paxlovid and sotromivab, is now much more adequate to meet the demand.

News that might be bad (we don't know yet): the BA2 subvariant of omicron now has risen from 0% in January to just below 12% of all COVID cases now. This variant is somewhat more resistant to the existing therapeutics. At least initially, it appears that being fully vaccinated and boosted gives the same level of protection as from the other variants of omicron, but the data isn't completely convincing yet. No need to panic but worth watching. At worst, this might prove more deadly for those who still are not vaccinated, but probably won't be any worse for those who have already received the vaccines.
I've been watching the variant too. One thing I will say is that the levels haven't risen as sharp as omicron (original) did. Looking at other countries with large cases of it, I watch but am not concerned. S Africa follows it too and saw this preliminary data https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.02.17.22271030v1

Definitely not concerning to me. Looking forward to spring break starting tomorrow afternoon. To avoid an early flight on DST change day, we leave Monday.
If we want to be honest, at this point, no one gives a crap about COVID. Why would people when they are staring at record inflation, record gas prices, and a war in Europe? I posted about cases yesterday, then shortly after realized that was the least of my concerns...
 

correcaminos

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If we want to be honest, at this point, no one gives a crap about COVID. Why would people when they are staring at record inflation, record gas prices, and a war in Europe? I posted about cases yesterday, then shortly after realized that was the least of my concerns...
That's not true at all. Many of my friends leaving for spring break give a HUGE crap about covid and testing and such for travel. We care enough to wear masks to not get sick before we leave. I have many friends still worried about their kids who cannot be vaccinated. People are still wearing masks here. Columbus just lifted their mandate a couple days ago. Just because you don't doesn't mean everyone doesn't. Like saying because I drive an EV no one gives a crap about gas prices. I may have quite literally zero clue what our gas prices are as the last time I filled up was in November with a rental car in Florida. It doesn't meant no one cares.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
That's not true at all. Many of my friends leaving for spring break give a HUGE crap about covid and testing and such for travel. We care enough to wear masks to not get sick before we leave. I have many friends still worried about their kids who cannot be vaccinated. People are still wearing masks here. Columbus just lifted their mandate a couple days ago. Just because you don't doesn't mean everyone doesn't. Like saying because I drive an EV no one gives a crap about gas prices. I may have quite literally zero clue what our gas prices are as the last time I filled up was in November with a rental car in Florida. It doesn't meant no one cares.
Your group of friends is not indicative of what the country is concerned about right now as a whole. Pretty confident that my current concerns are more mainstream right now in the US...and this is likely to become even more so in the coming weeks. I will leave it at that because this is still a COVID thread...
 

correcaminos

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Your group of friends is not indicative of what the country is concerned about right now as a whole. Pretty confident that my current concerns are more mainstream right now in the US...and this is likely to become even more so in the coming weeks.
Pretty confident that they all are important on varying levels. Again what you feel isn't a concern still is for many. You can be concerned about more than one thing at once. Covid is still bad in some areas. Cut people slack and realize they all aren't like you or where you live. People still care. If you don't think it's an issue why post? This doesn't affect you.

People still have to test to go to certain places for travel. We still are mandated to wear masks on public transportation. We still are closely monitoring cases and hospitalizations. My area still has mandates in place outside of schools too. I just got a notification from the school about covid cases yesterday. Until that ends, people care. Just on varying levels.

Now someone tell me how much gas is in central Florida so I won't have a heart attack next week 🙃
 
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