Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Tinkwings]

Eh you never know, you might be one of the later getters of covid and need it then. We'll order and share the wealth for anyone who needs tests here. Though at the rate we are going for classroom notifications we might be needing them for a while. Just when I thought my county hit their peak they surprised me. Don't know if there was a backlog of tests or not as it was significantly higher than any other days (happened a week or so before too).

Yes I see a backlog effect here too....none for days then very large numbers for surrounding communities.....and chunks of deaths, that I assume didn't all happen that day, but hard to know. One site I check does great breakdown for age/immuno/lung issue separation, and people in, tells people released but doesn't tell deaths so hard to get full picture. I have some tests on hand for if needed and yes willing to share should my friends and neighbors need one and cannot find. So many I know have had hard time getting on this past month anywhere.....so better prepared than not imho.

 

[sullyinMT]

Anyways. The other day I made a joke about how long the shipping will be for the 4 free Covid tests you can order from the government. Well apparently they will take 7 to 12 days to even ship once ordered. Kinda lame. I guess they will be good for the next wave.

Move up here. We’ll have ‘em just in time . It’s also kind of nice that our insurer has opened a direct order portal as opposed to the federal clearing house.

 

[Kevin_W]

Interesting - I got a call today from the Department of Health telling me that my Covid test was positive and giving instructions on what to do after a positive test. Except my positive test was on January 3 and I self-reported it, so I'm aware that it was positive and calling 11-12 days after the fact is way to late to mean anything except updating their statistics.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

It was a sign at a restaurant. It was a funny ha ha. Personally I have never taken advice from signs on the street. Sorry you didn’t see any humor in it. Wow.

I don't take advice from signs on the street, either, ever since that time I saw a sign that said, "Don't Walk." I hopped instead. When I woke up from my coma we were in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. Lesson learned the hard way.

 

[correcaminos]

Interesting - I got a call today from the Department of Health telling me that my Covid test was positive and giving instructions on what to do after a positive test. Except my positive test was on January 3 and I self-reported it, so I'm aware that it was positive and calling 11-12 days after the fact is way to late to mean anything except updating their statistics.

Not surprising. In Oct here they removed the ability for schools to force quarantining and said it would move to the health department to do so. Some parents were mad for this reason. No way can the health department keep up.

 

[JoeCamel]

Is the pandemic will ever ending soon?

We won't know until it does. Until then we just keep on doing the best we can to keep ourselves and those around us safe.

 

[Kevin_W]

Not surprising. In Oct here they removed the ability for schools to force quarantining and said it would move to the health department to do so. Some parents were mad for this reason. No way can the health department keep up.

Yeah, and the lady was very pleasant and realized that this didn't mean much. But at least it helped her update statistics on my symptoms and vaccine status,

 

[FanforDisney]

We won't know until it does. Until then we just keep on doing the best we can to keep ourselves and those around us safe.

What is becoming more frequent discuss is that after the omicron burns out (which seems to start happening), it will be define as Endemic.

The Omicron Shift in Europe: Pandemic or Endemic?

A number of governments have changed their approaches to the coronavirus, to one that is more like how we treat the flu. Public health experts say it’s too soon to make that call.

www.nytimes.com

When Will COVID-19 Pandemic Become Endemic? Experts Share Scenarios

The staggering spike in COVID-19 cases nationwide fueled mainly by the highly contagious omicron variant has many Americans questioning how long it will take for the pandemic to finally subside for good. While no crystal ball can provide an exact timeline, several medical experts help lay out...

www.nbcnewyork.com

"The changeover for an infectious disease from a pandemic to an endemic occurs when the virus is found regularly in a particular area or among people. The key difference in an endemic condition is that the virus is more manageable with greater population immunity."

 

[JoeCamel]

What is becoming more frequent discuss is that after the omicron burns out (which seems to start happening), it will be define as Endemic.

The Omicron Shift in Europe: Pandemic or Endemic?

A number of governments have changed their approaches to the coronavirus, to one that is more like how we treat the flu. Public health experts say it’s too soon to make that call.

www.nytimes.com

When Will COVID-19 Pandemic Become Endemic? Experts Share Scenarios

The staggering spike in COVID-19 cases nationwide fueled mainly by the highly contagious omicron variant has many Americans questioning how long it will take for the pandemic to finally subside for good. While no crystal ball can provide an exact timeline, several medical experts help lay out...

www.nbcnewyork.com

"The changeover for an infectious disease from a pandemic to an endemic occurs when the virus is found regularly in a particular area or among people. The key difference in an endemic condition is that the virus is more manageable with greater population immunity."

Nice pipe dream but that only works IF
The virus mutates to something less deadly
The next mutation is not more deadly
The level of circulating virus is so low you are not at risk of dying if you do happen to contract it only to find no beds available due to burnout.

I could go on but until we see that actually happen it is supposition and a hope that it works the way they say and not in an unforseen way that is a much worse outcome.

How are we doing with ebola, hemorrhagic fever, marburg. Are they getting less deadly?

 

[FanforDisney]

Nice pipe dream but that only works IF
The virus mutates to something less deadly
The next mutation is not more deadly
The level of circulating virus is so low you are not at risk of dying if you do happen to contract it only to find no beds available due to burnout.

I could go on but until we see that actually happen it is supposition and a hope that it works the way they say and not in an unforseen way that is a much worse outcome.

How are we doing with ebola, hemorrhagic fever, marburg. Are they getting less deadly?

How are we doing with ebola, hemorrhagic fever, marburg. Are they getting less deadly? --- I think pretty well, I don't see government lockdowns because of ebola, hemorrhagic fever, or marbury. Of course they are deadly but the world is not in lockdowns because of them.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Nice pipe dream but that only works IF
The virus mutates to something less deadly
The next mutation is not more deadly
The level of circulating virus is so low you are not at risk of dying if you do happen to contract it only to find no beds available due to burnout.

I could go on but until we see that actually happen it is supposition and a hope that it works the way they say and not in an unforseen way that is a much worse outcome.

How are we doing with ebola, hemorrhagic fever, marburg. Are they getting less deadly?

Still working through The Great Influenza and there is a whole little segment of how their was doubt if what is recognized as the first wave was even actually influenza since it was so mild. There was a very bad outbreak in Kansas but then for several months it wasn’t so bad before exploding in severity.

And of course I know people will retort that the 1918 flu evolved into something less severe but that doesn’t stop mutations. Nothing stops those cycles of severity even if they have hit that peak. COVID being like the flu would still present challenges as it would be a doubling of those getting sick and we’d still have the potential for both to be serious in a given year, not to mention COVID’s seeming fondness for spring and summer waves that add to the burden.

 

[DisneyFan32]

What is becoming more frequent discuss is that after the omicron burns out (which seems to start happening), it will be define as Endemic.

The Omicron Shift in Europe: Pandemic or Endemic?

A number of governments have changed their approaches to the coronavirus, to one that is more like how we treat the flu. Public health experts say it’s too soon to make that call.

www.nytimes.com

When Will COVID-19 Pandemic Become Endemic? Experts Share Scenarios

The staggering spike in COVID-19 cases nationwide fueled mainly by the highly contagious omicron variant has many Americans questioning how long it will take for the pandemic to finally subside for good. While no crystal ball can provide an exact timeline, several medical experts help lay out...

www.nbcnewyork.com

"The changeover for an infectious disease from a pandemic to an endemic occurs when the virus is found regularly in a particular area or among people. The key difference in an endemic condition is that the virus is more manageable with greater population immunity."

When the world will going back to normal if COVID will be endemic?

 

[Heppenheimer]

How are we doing with ebola, hemorrhagic fever, marburg. Are they getting less deadly? --- I think pretty well, I don't see government lockdowns because of ebola, hemorrhagic fever, or marbury. Of course they are deadly but the world is not in lockdowns because of them.

There aren't any ebola outbreaks currently. This disease seemingly comes out of the jungle like a ghost, causes an epidemic, then goes away for years, just as mysteriously as it appears. It is not an endemic disease in any human population. Same with Marburg, outbreaks of which have been very few and far between. All these and other similar hemorehagic viruses, thankfully, require much closer and more sustained contact to contract than for COVID.

Outbreaks of ebola do result in widespread local lockdowns in Africa, though.

 

[Diamond Dot]

If you don't want the vaccine then be my guest, but, please don't be one of those people popping up on AOL or the local newspaper seriously ill in hospital bemoaning the fact you listened to the misinformation and now wishing you had been vaccinated or the loved one of an unvaccinated person who also listened to the nonsense, caught Covid and sadly passed away.
Personal responsibility is an endangered concept, close to extinction. I shall continue to wear my mask, wash my hands for 20 seconds, carry hand sanitizer because, for me, it's the right thing to do.
I also wonder how many of these armchair scientists on here actually know exactly why we are told to wash our hands for a minimum of 20 seconds?

 

[Incomudro]

Nice pipe dream but that only works IF
The virus mutates to something less deadly
The next mutation is not more deadly
The level of circulating virus is so low you are not at risk of dying if you do happen to contract it only to find no beds available due to burnout.

I could go on but until we see that actually happen it is supposition and a hope that it works the way they say and not in an unforseen way that is a much worse outcome.

How are we doing with ebola, hemorrhagic fever, marburg. Are they getting less deadly?

It already has mutated to something less deadly.

 

[JoeCamel]

It already has mutated to something less deadly.

Nothing says it can't go the other way.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Nothing says it can't go the other way.

Time to learn more Greek letters: Omicron won't be last worrisome COVID variant, scientists say

There's no guarantee the sequels of omicron will cause milder illness or that existing vaccines will work against them.

abc7ny.com

Or it could be worse as the virus will continuing to mutating to worse than Delta and Omicron by mid 2022 or end of 2022. As the pandemic will be even longer to ending this year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/01/15/living-with-the-virus/?utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main&crl8_id=c5f5b9aa-ba3c-42d6-acb5-deaf57a2286f

Even the future of the pandemic is holding right now, we have to ending the pandemic for the world as ending global health emergency by mid 2022 or end of 2022.

 

[lazyboy97o]

There aren't any ebola outbreaks currently. This disease seemingly comes out of the jungle like a ghost, causes an epidemic, then goes away for years, just as mysteriously as it appears. It is not an endemic disease in any human population. Same with Marburg, outbreaks of which have been very few and far between. All these and other similar hemorehagic viruses, thankfully, require much closer and more sustained contact to contract than for COVID.

Outbreaks of ebola do result in widespread local lockdowns in Africa, though.

It’s amazing how so many of these “But what about…” are things that do get responses or got a long, sustained response that resulting in their becoming infrequent occurrences that no longer require extreme action. We’re supposed to just give up and stop because we no longer act so strongly against these things we actually controlled.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Nice pipe dream but that only works IF
The virus mutates to something less deadly
The next mutation is not more deadly
The level of circulating virus is so low you are not at risk of dying if you do happen to contract it only to find no beds available due to burnout.

I could go on but until we see that actually happen it is supposition and a hope that it works the way they say and not in an unforseen way that is a much worse outcome.

How are we doing with ebola, hemorrhagic fever, marburg. Are they getting less deadly?

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t pandemics end because people get immunity to the virus?

Sure it could end via mutation but my understanding is even if the virus never changed the pandemic would eventually end when enough immune systems adapted to it.

They aren’t speculating this will end because Omicron is less dangerous, they are speculating it’ll end because 70% are vaccinated and it’s so contagious that nearly a million Americans are getting sick (and some level of natural immunity) every day.

Once a disease runs out of easy victims to infect (aka people who’s immune systems can’t fight it) it can’t spread like it used to and the pandemic ends.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t pandemics end because people get immunity to the virus?

Sure it could end via mutation but my understanding is even if the virus never changed the pandemic would eventually end when enough immune systems adapted to it.

They aren’t speculating this will end because Omicron is less dangerous, they are speculating it’ll end because 70% are vaccinated and it’s so contagious that nearly a million Americans are getting sick (and some level of natural immunity) every day.

Once a disease runs out of easy victims to infect (aka people who’s immune systems can’t fight it) it can’t spread like it used to.

Well, thats stinks. How it could end if virus will never changing? Mutations are getting scary as this year brings like last year and 2020. But who knows maybe the pandemic will ending this year for the world as 70% people vaccinated as no more masks forever.