Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Lilofan]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

Is this a dream?

 

[Kevin_W]

Roughly 15% require hospitalization but that number goes up or down based on where you look. In NY over 40% of the hospitalizations are younger people. It’s a false narrative that the young are relatively safe. A teenager died yesterday in CA.

It's not a false narrative. The stats are the stats. "A teenager died yesterday". Yes, and a non-smoking teenager died yesterday of cancer. That doesn't change the overall cancer or smoking statistics. With a population of over 7 million, million people you can find an single case of anything.

 

[BromBones]

I wish it were that easy.

You may not remember our resilience and how we bounced back after 9-11.

 

[BromBones]

Your comment is a refreshing thing to read. Seriously.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

 

[BromBones]

Suggest you follow financial channels programming that report estimated people filing for unemployment 3.4 million in one week and counting ( most ever in history) worse than recession in 2008 when a number of people lost their homes and jobs, recall that? , and Federal report in the next week of unemployment numbers.

The key word in your entire post is "estimated". No one provides facts, only opinion.

Those same financial channels had been predicting a recession since Trump was elected and every time they were wrong.

 

[techgeek]

Publix to install plexiglass barriers to protect cashiers from COVID-19

The Lakeland grocer says it will take at least two weeks for installations to be compete chain-wide,

www.tampabay.com

 

[GoofGoof]

It's not a false narrative. The stats are the stats. "A teenager died yesterday". Yes, and a non-smoking teenager died yesterday of cancer. That doesn't change the overall cancer or smoking statistics. With a population of over 7 million, million people you can find an single case of anything.

40%+ of hospitalizations in NY are young people, not in the high risk group. The narrative that it’s mild for younger people is definitely false. Its not a single case or a one off example. The stats are the stats.

Here‘s some more stats from the CDC. Nationwide, 39% of hospitalizations are from people under 55.

Severe Outcomes Among Patients with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19

COVID-19 can result in severe disease, including hospitalization, admission to an intensive care unit, and death, especially among older adults. Everyone can take actions, such as social distancing...

www.cdc.gov

 

[lisa12000]

From the uk

UK coronavirus home testing to be made available to millions

Test to be validated this week, then made available to healthcare workers and general public

www.theguardian.com

I think this is the first tiny step to getting back to normality - if we can see how many people have already had this in the uk and that they are immune (this is an antibody year) then these people can start to get back to some normality - even if it means there’s a system like in China that you have a green health status to show people and all it means is that you can visit your elderly mum and dad with no fear.

talking about the stokes fear - I’ve noticed jn the last day or so it’s been dialled down a bit over here; yes we have rolling news coverage but it seems to be far more factual than panic spreading, the supermarkets have been noticeably less busy and people are in the main just doing what they’re told. (Apart from the few idiots) - it’s almost as though people are resignedto just hunkering down and getting through it rather than it being something out there apocalypse

 

[DCBaker]

“Our health professionals are pleading with us that if we don’t act now, it will be too late,” Burton said. “The residents of Pinellas County and the Tampa Bay area need to take this seriously."

The directive specifies three dozen categories of businesses that are considered essential and can remain open, including groceries; infrastructure like utilities, distributors and construction; government services; healthcare providers; gas stations; restaurants serving only to-go food; laundromats, banks and hotels. It keeps open parks and boat ramps.

“The message we want to send is ‘help us help you,’” Gualtieri said. “This isn’t locking down Pinellas County ... But you all need to do more.”

Pinellas orders county to stay at home amid coronavirus, first in Tampa Bay to enact measure

Pinellas County’s order will take effect Thursday and allow for outdoor exercise and trips for groceries, medical needs and jobs deemed essential.

www.tampabay.com

 

[eliza61nyc]

Roughly 15% require hospitalization but that number goes up or down based on where you look. In NY over 40% of the hospitalizations are younger people. It’s a false narrative that the young are relatively safe. A teenager died yesterday in CA.

Governor of NY on right now taking about hospital capacity. The number hospitalized has exceeded their initial projections and is not expected to peak for up to 21 days. If the projection holds there will be a large shortage of beds and ventilators. It could be a medical meltdown.

The economic impact of re-opening everything and reversing any benefits from the social distancing could be just as bad or worse than keeping things locked down.

And that's why you have different options for different places. NEW YORK city is vastly different than Raleigh Durham NC. So you destroy a city 900 miles away based on what's happening somewhere else??

I mean aren't we supposed to be the smartest kids on the block?? We're always talking about how innovative and smart we are??

So it's supposed to peak in 21 days, doesn't that give the smart folks at least 14 days?
Just playing devil's advocate, this plan does not seem like a long term solution. Which is kinda ironic.

 

[wdwmagic]

Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin now fully closed

Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin now fully closed due to coronavirus

The resort was operating with just the Swan wing open, but has now closed the entire resort.

www.wdwmagic.com

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin now fully closed

Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin now fully closed due to coronavirus

The resort was operating with just the Swan wing open, but has now closed the entire resort.

www.wdwmagic.com

Didn’t realize they were still open. Wow.

 

[Kevin_W]

40%+ of hospitalizations in NY are young people, not in the high risk group. The narrative that it’s mild for younger people is definitely false. Its not a single case or a one off example. The stats are the stats.

Here‘s some more stats from the CDC. Nationwide, 39% of hospitalizations are from people under 55.

Severe Outcomes Among Patients with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19

COVID-19 can result in severe disease, including hospitalization, admission to an intensive care unit, and death, especially among older adults. Everyone can take actions, such as social distancing...

www.cdc.gov

1.5% and 0.2% are still a lot of people.But they are still 1.5 and 0.2%. (Korean death rates are similar to the Chinese numbers. I haven't seen "recent" US numbers as they are changing much more rapidly than China or Korea.)

 

[BromBones]

This is just factually wrong, as was pointed out earlier in the thread.

They specifically said according to Chinese sources. That's not even remotely the same thing as just reporting it as a fact that they endorsed, and anyone who thinks otherwise has a severe lack of reading comprehension. Stuff like this is half the reason people don't take trusted sources seriously anymore -- it's often not the source's fault but is instead because people don't understand what they're actually reporting because they either don't read it properly or don't think critically about it.

The World Health Organization is supposed to be above the fray. They should not just trust a Communist dictatorship's sources when that country doesn't allow freedom of speech, freedom of the press and kicks out American journalists.

And then couple that with the grievous misinformation they tweeted out on Feb 4

And they WHO themselves admitted that they made an error in its previous reports about the virus.

WHO admits error in assessment of deadly coronavirus risk

The World Health Organization said the global risk from the deadly coronavirus was high, after incorrectly rating the global risk as “moderate” last week.

thehill.com

So the WHO is not an infallible source.

 

[DCBaker]

"With circumstances continuing to change rapidly around the globe, we are making critical and timely decisions based on guidance from French authorities. In an abundance of caution, Disneyland Paris Princess Run (May 8 - 10) will no longer take place."

Disneyland Paris

run.disneylandparis.com

 

[eliza61nyc]

You may not remember our resilience and how we bounced back after 9-11.

Really? That's a good argument for economics irresponsibility? We also bounced back from the great depression but I ain't in a hurry to repeat the experience.

So let me say this, yes I am onboard for now. In a week or so if I don't see this Armageddon that is being predicted, I am going back to work and I will be harassing my local government to get their booties in gear and back to life

 

[BromBones]

Is this a dream?

Perhaps to you. Those of us with faith in America and Americans after crises..it is not.

 

[durangojim]

I’m shocked at this point that we haven’t had official statements regarding extensions of closures at the domestic parks

 

[RobWDW1971]

40%+ of hospitalizations in NY are young people, not in the high risk group. The narrative that it’s mild for younger people is definitely false. Its not a single case or a one off example. The stats are the stats.

Here‘s some more stats from the CDC. Nationwide, 39% of hospitalizations are from people under 55.

Severe Outcomes Among Patients with Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19

COVID-19 can result in severe disease, including hospitalization, admission to an intensive care unit, and death, especially among older adults. Everyone can take actions, such as social distancing...

www.cdc.gov

That is correct, it is not necessarily milder for young people, they may require hospitalization, but their fatality rate is dramatically lower, almost miniscule if there is no underlying pre-existing conditions.

Currently, the US (and these numbers will change as more testing drives the denominator as we saw in all other countries):

Of Current Active Cases: 78% Mild Cases and 22% Serious Cases
Gross Fatality Rate: 1.32%

These are aligned with other countries and when we start to get a higher percentage of closed cases (recovered and deaths) that will be a meaningful statistic, but so far the US is trending just like other countries. As more people are tested, the percent of mild cases will grow significantly as today many people are only being tested if they have serious symptoms that are seeking treatment. This phenomenon was seen in other countries as well.

 

[BromBones]

Really? That's a good argument for economics irresponsibility? We also bounced back from the great depression but I ain't in a hurry to repeat the experience.

So you consider businesses regrowing, people getting jobs and pulling together to repair the country "economic irresponsibility"?

Why wouldn't you want to bounce back like we did from the great depression. The United States became more prosperous than any time before after that and established itself as a world power.

You'd rather us fail as a country? Okay.