Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[21stamps]

Is anyone else absolutely cracking up when your kids are on Zoom?

I hung around for 5 minutes to watch the entire 4th grade class, and one teacher. They’re having a ‘hang out session’, no instruction for this one.
She said “Oh you’re all talking at once, just like we’re in class.”
Poor woman.

So thankful for technology right now.

 

[eliza61nyc]

The point, though, is specifically not what has occured thus far. Everyone acknowledges that today, right now, the deaths and serious complications from COVID-19 are far lower than the seasonal flu. That's why actions are being taken now, when things are still manageable.

The point is that all evidence to date says that COVID-19 is much easier to transmit than the seasonal flu and, left unchecked, the number of cases will grow exponentially. If that is allowed to happen, our medical infrastructure will be overwhelmed, people will not get the care they need, and large numbers will unnecessarily die. And, speaking economically, that would wreck the economy far more than the measures we are taking today.

So the point is not to wreck the economy based on what has happened now. The point is to take an economic hit now to avoid allowing a massive loss of life in the future.

and that's fine but isn't there something in between "left unchecked and totally lock down." My concern is this, how long is an "economic" hit now?? we are already working to shore up our infrastructure. great!! we are working on various drug combinations to see if something is viable? great! ok so we've got some things contained. do we need to keep in lock down?

Cause I can tell you right now I'm getting paid, ok next month if my company says come back to work or no money?? stay at home order or not, I'm going to work

the discussion we are having on the boards right now about Disney is all from the point of the "company" but disneyworld is a whole lot of people suffering.

Also question, does the number of cases growing exponentially equate to medical meltdown. Am I wrong, my understanding was that most of the cases especially with the young are very manageable at home. so If Philly gets 1000 cases but only 8 need hospitalization would that overwhelm the system. right now they are telling folks not to even go to the hospital unless you can't breathe.

Lol...this could all be cabin fever kicking in

 

[wdw71fan]

Announcement inbound

 

[Surferboy567]

They still haven’t said anything...

 

[GoofGoof]

and that's fine but isn't there something in between "left unchecked and totally lock down." My concern is this, how long is an "economic" hit now?? we are already working to shore up our infrastructure. great!! we are working on various drug combinations to see if something is viable? great! ok so we've got some things contained. do we need to keep in lock down?

Cause I can tell you right now I'm getting paid, ok next month if my company says come back to work or no money?? stay at home order or not, I'm going to work

the discussion we are having on the boards right now about Disney is all from the point of the "company" but disneyworld is a whole lot of people suffering.

Also question, does the number of cases growing exponentially equate to medical meltdown. Am I wrong, my understanding was that most of the cases especially with the young are very manageable at home. so If Philly gets 1000 cases but only 8 need hospitalization would that overwhelm the system. right now they are telling folks not to even go to the hospital unless you can't breathe.

Roughly 15% require hospitalization but that number goes up or down based on where you look. In NY over 40% of the hospitalizations are younger people. It’s a false narrative that the young are relatively safe. A teenager died yesterday in CA.

Governor of NY on right now taking about hospital capacity. The number hospitalized has exceeded their initial projections and is not expected to peak for up to 21 days. If the projection holds there will be a large shortage of beds and ventilators. It could be a medical meltdown.

The economic impact of re-opening everything and reversing any benefits from the social distancing could be just as bad or worse than keeping things locked down.

 

[BromBones]

Hm.

I doubt that. I think this has scared people in general that they'll be a lot more cautious with their health and money, at least for the next year or so.

You underestimate the will of the American people

 

[BromBones]

I wish I could share that optimism. I'm going to have to find a job first, though.

You will.

 

[21stamps]

I am not disagreeing with that. But your statement said "the few who still have jobs." As horrific as 20-30% unemployment is, that's still a vast majority of people with jobs. There is no scenario we get to where the majority are unemployed and only "the few" have jobs.

I still have a job, but I will see almost a drastic reduction in pay this month.
We had a phone meeting last night, today we are laying off or furloughing about 50% of our staff.

 

[BromBones]

But we don't know when it will end. And our social distancing could make it last a lot longer:

When will the coronavirus pandemic and social distancing end?

Social distancing may have to continue for months to prevent a resurgence of COVID-19. Wider testing and isolation of cases could ease such measures.

www.sciencenews.org

United States could become coronavirus epicenter: WHO

The United States has the potential to become the new epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic due to a "very large acceleration" in infections there, the World Health Organization said on Tuesday. The highly contagious respiratory virus has infected more than 42,000 people in the United States...

news.yahoo.com

Those are very nice opinion pieces.

 

[BromBones]

Mr. President? I didn't know you were on this forum.

Thank you. I take that as a complement.

 

[Lilofan]

Those are very nice opinion pieces.

World Health Organization - just a few educated folks with experience in their respective fields.

 

[BromBones]

How are people still not getting this...

The US is on course to become the worst country for this based on the speed its increasing - if anything the rest of the world will be back up and running whilst the US is battling this thing for 12-18 months more with the way its being handled. This whole "get back to work" asap movement is seriously dangerous.

There's a reason other countries are doing full lockdowns.

Some see a glass as half full. Some see it as half empty.

Some like you see it as bone dry.

 

[GoofGoof]

You underestimate the will of the American people

I wish it were that easy.

 

[BromBones]

Where Dreams Come True but not exactly this.

A positive attitude has everything to do with success.

 

[21stamps]

Those are very nice opinion pieces.

Your comment is a refreshing thing to read. Seriously.

 

[BromBones]

Other than the fact that a good number will be unemployed, out of business, just plain broke, or dead.

I'd be interested to see the sources defending your "fact".

 

[BromBones]

World Health Organization - just a few educated folks with experience in their respective fields.

Do I really have to share the articles showing how the WHO totally downplayed and underestimated the severity of the virus?

And do I have to share the tweet where they simply trusted Chinese Government propaganda regarding the spread?

You can find them, but I'll share them if I need to.

 

[celluloid]

World Health Organization - just a few educated folks with experience in their respective fields.

So are meteorologists, but when a storm is here they hold onto the spotlight of nothing but worst case scenarios too. Not targeted at you but in general. Take concerns seriously, but not panic.

 

[Lilofan]

I'd be interested to see the sources defending your "fact".

Suggest you follow financial channels programming that report estimated people filing for unemployment 3.4 million in one week and counting ( most ever in history) worse than recession in 2008 when a number of people lost their homes and jobs, recall that? , and Federal report in the next week of unemployment numbers.

 

[UNCgolf]

And do I have to share the tweet where they simply trusted Chinese Government propaganda regarding the spread?

This is just factually wrong, as was pointed out earlier in the thread.

They specifically said according to Chinese sources. That's not even remotely the same thing as just reporting it as a fact that they endorsed, and anyone who thinks otherwise has a severe lack of reading comprehension. Stuff like this is part of the reason people don't take trusted sources seriously anymore -- it's often not the source's fault but is instead because people don't understand what they're actually reporting because they either don't read it properly or don't think critically about it.