Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Nubs70]

Is anyone tired of sheltering-in-place with the same people for over a week yet?

Yes, I went to work today after 14 day self isolation seeing daughter bugged out of Austria.

I am deemed essential, state is under stay at home order, and was all gung-ho to get back to do my part.

First problem was having to go to 3 gas stations to find one serving coffee.
2nd problem was customer has locked down all coffee makers.
3rd problem is my customers can't help themselves. They expect me risk my health to fix things they could easily do themselves. Customer is just acting like business as usual with additional personal space.

By 1400 I just began to feel the heeby jeebies and could not get out of there fast enough. Just needed to get home, back into my hole and take a shower.

 

[BromBones]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

 

[note2001]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

Hm.

I doubt that. I think this has scared people in general that they'll be a lot more cautious with their health and money, at least for the next year or so.

 

[Tom P.]

Hm.

I doubt that. I think this has scared people in general that they'll be a lot more cautious with their health and money, at least for the next year or so.

You are far more optimistic about human behavior than I am.

 

[techgeek]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

I wish I could share that optimism. I'm going to have to find a job first, though.

 

[VaderTron]

Smoking isn't a good comparison, though. People die from smoking due to long term damage; it's not like every other person who lights up a cigarette drops dead instantly. If they did, cigarettes certainly wouldn't be legal and there'd be a huge effort to eradicate their existence.

There's also a lot of money in the tobacco industry (although far less lobbying etc. than they had a few decades ago) that works towards keeping politicians away from it.

How about the real point that makes this a ridiculous comparison?

One can CHOOSE whether or not they will smoke and (with the sad exception of children stuck in a smoker's home [child abuse]) no one has to tolerate continued exposure to second-hand smoke unless they just don't care enough to do something about it.

You can't see the virus. So, without physical distancing and other strict measures in place you have no choice over whether you are exposed to it or not.

This is why people are upset with this virus. The choice and control factors are missing here that are present when someone decides they are ok with smoking, drinking and driving, deciding against a flu shot, swimming, operating an atv/dirt bike, eating junk and never exercising. In those situations people know the risks involved and choose to do it anyway.

Covid-19 chooses for you.

 

[Phil12]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

But we don't know when it will end. And our social distancing could make it last a lot longer:

When will the coronavirus pandemic and social distancing end?

Social distancing may have to continue for months to prevent a resurgence of COVID-19. Wider testing and isolation of cases could ease such measures.

www.sciencenews.org

United States could become coronavirus epicenter: WHO

The United States has the potential to become the new epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic due to a "very large acceleration" in infections there, the World Health Organization said on Tuesday. The highly contagious respiratory virus has infected more than 42,000 people in the United States...

news.yahoo.com

 

[VaderTron]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

Mr. President? I didn't know you were on this forum.

 

[esskay]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

How are people still not getting this...

The US is on course to become the worst country for this based on the speed its increasing - if anything the rest of the world will be back up and running whilst the US is battling this thing for 12-18 months more with the way its being handled. This whole "get back to work" asap movement is seriously dangerous.

There's a reason other countries are doing full lockdowns.

 

[Lilofan]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

Where Dreams Come True but not exactly this.

 

[Lilofan]

Holy ****, Florida has a lot of old people? Live and learn I guess.

Some retirees who retired to FL with a combined pension and social security annual income that at times much more than the average tourism worker annual income in FL.

 

[Lilofan]

Yes, I went to work today after 14 day self isolation seeing daughter bugged out of Austria.

I am deemed essential, state is under stay at home order, and was all gung-ho to get back to do my part.

First problem was having to go to 3 gas stations to find one serving coffee.
2nd problem was customer has locked down all coffee makers.
3rd problem is my customers can't help themselves. They expect me risk my health to fix things they could easily do themselves. Customer is just acting like business as usual with additional personal space.

By 1400 I just began to feel the heeby jeebies and could not get out of there fast enough. Just needed to get home, back into my hole and take a shower.

I've noticed some small business are not even getting supplies to restock. If I were you I'd drink coffee at home, save the stress on trying to find some outside.

 

[InnKpr]

Coronavirus: Amazon suspends 3,900 accounts accused of price gouging

Amazon has shut down 3,900 accounts the online retail giant said were charging too much for products.

www.wsbtv.com

Glad Amazon is on top of this. Now I wish the law would start setting examples with these people.

 

[Kram Sacul]

Perspective:

Approximately 150,000 people die annually in NY State on a population of about 20 million

Total coronavirus deaths as of now: 210

Hey, you’re ruining the doom and gloom party here. This is a biblical apocalypse and you should be in terror.

 

[durangojim]

I’m surprised Disney still hasn’t put out an updated statement about the parks.

 

[Lilofan]

Prince Charles of Wales tested positive for covid19. He did make public appearances recently.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Once this ends people are going to be out in droves, in restaurants, bars, clubs, stores, going on vacations and basically celebrating. This is going to be a very lucrative summer.

Other than the fact that a good number will be unemployed, out of business, just plain broke, or dead.

 

[DisneyCane]

Right now, this is true. But later, it depends how many images of dead bodies stacked up in hospitals start showing up, how many people don't have an income, how many people start losing family members. Fewer people want to vacation after grief and trauma.

Some people will come back, but what we want - and how we function - as a people on the back end of this, no one can honestly say. It just depends how deeply your nation and community were affected. It sure took a good while for WDW to fully recover after 9/11, and this outbreak threatens to have a much higher human and economic cost than that.

The biggest difference between 9/11 and this is that 9/11, as designed by the terrorists, had horrific images that stoked people's fear of flying in general. It also allowed people to imagine that if terrorists could pull that off, they could blow up the Magic Kingdom.

With the virus, the only images are the case and death scoreboard. Inherently humans are not afraid of getting a fatal disease because diseases are natural and have always been a part of life since life began. Flying in an airplane is an unnatural activity so deep inside our brains we have more fear of doing it.

I truly believe that if WDW opened tomorrow it would be just as crowded as the days before it closed, even in the middle of the peak of the outbreak.

 

[Lilofan]

I truly believe that if WDW opened tomorrow it would be just as crowded as the days before it closed, even in the middle of the peak of the outbreak.

Crowded with who?. The few that still have jobs?

 

[Timmay]

I think this is why some of us are questioning the sanity of this and not blindly believing everything thrown our way.

Wisconsin now has the wonderfully named Safer At Home order...which basically gives a ridiculously ambiguous list of what is an essential business and what isn’t. Now the rules for individuals is clearly laid out and draconian at best. You can’t interact with anyone except those in your own household and you face a $300 fine and 30 days in jail if you violate the order. So, Hobby Lobby and Jo-Ann Fabrics have literally been deemed essential but you can’t see your fiancé if they don’t live with you.

And now the nail in the sanity coffin. Wisconsin has shown a verified downward trend the last two days...including metro areas like Milwaukee. But hey, let’s not make that news, let’s parade out the Secretary of DHSWI so she can say that 1500 Wisconsin residents may die of COVID-19 in the next two weeks...up from a current total of, get this...5. I’m no NASA mathematician, but I do believe that is about 4,800%. Yet, they can’t even begin to say for sure how many of the 441 known cases are hospitalized because they aren’t tracking it.

Whew...okay. Sorry. Rant over.Haven’t been out for a week so I think I might try to get out today. That may help. Maybe I’ll swing by Hobby Lobby.