Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[correcaminos]

But some are born with an issue that would prevent them from safely getting a vaccine.

Those exist - though exceedingly rare. And honestly if someone had a legit reason truly we could make exceptions for that when needed. Though reality is if I were the exception I wouldn't be out in large groups anyway.

I get you seem to be anti-mandate (I'm actually ambivalent to it) but your comment really is hard to swallow for those who really have faced segregation. A choice is simply that. People who cry foul most about choice and possible segregation miss what segregation of people really is about.

We can fight for the rare few who have no choice to remain unvaccinated in better ways.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Those exist - though exceedingly rare. And honestly if someone had a legit reason truly we could make exceptions for that when needed. Though reality is if I were the exception I wouldn't be out in large groups anyway.

I get you seem to be anti-mandate (I'm actually ambivalent to it) but your comment really is hard to swallow for those who really have faced segregation. A choice is simply that. People who cry foul most about choice and possible segregation miss what segregation of people really is about.

We can fight for the rare few who have no choice to remain unvaccinated in better ways.

My comment was simply pointing out that another poster used the word correctly in my opinion.

I didn’t choose to use the word. I don’t know if I’m for or against mandates or anything else at this point.

 

[correcaminos]

My comment was simply pointing out that another poster used the word correctly in my opinion.

I didn’t choose to use the word. I don’t know if I’m for or against mandates or anything else at this point.

And my response is why that word is extremely poor to use. Feel free to disagree but it really is very much in poor taste given history. After I posted I realized one of the best way to help protect those who cannot is to keep those who choose not to vaccinate away from them. Kind of crazy I never thought like that before today.

 

[LittleBuford]

It fits the definition of the word -

“the action or state of setting someone or something apart from other people or things or being set apart.”

Yes, but it doesn’t fit the way the word is actually used. Language doesn’t exist in a vacuum whereby only dictionary definitions matter. For example, I would bristle at being described as “a homosexual” rather than as a gay man even though the first is equally correct.

Those who use the term “segregation” in relation to vaccine passports do so precisely because they know of its history and associations. They are trying to imply that they are being unjustly discriminated against.

 

[Heppenheimer]

But some are born with an issue that would prevent them from safely getting a vaccine.

And that's one of the reasons why almost everyone else who can needs to be vaccinated. To protect those very few who legitimately can't. That's the concept behind herd immunity.

 

[Andrew C]

 

[DCBaker]

Walmart off 192/Old Lake Wilson closing until Sunday morning to "further sanitize the store" and restock -

"Walmart announced Friday that a Kissimmee location will be temporarily closing.

"We have chosen to temporarily close our Kissimmee store location at 2855 N Old Lake Wilson Road at 2 p.m. as part of an ongoing company-initiated program. This will allow extra time for a third-party specialist to further sanitize the store and will also give our associates additional time to restock shelves and prepare the store to once again serve the community. We plan to reopen the store to customers at 6 a.m. on Sunday, January 2," a release stated.

Walmart is currently offering $150 bonuses for associates who choose to become fully vaccinated and have not previously received the vaccination incentive."

Kissimmee Walmart temporarily closing

Walmart announced Friday that a Kissimmee location will be temporarily closing.

www.wesh.com

 

[Andrew C]

Walmart off 192/Old Lake Wilson closing until Sunday morning to "further sanitize the store" and restock -

"Walmart announced Friday that a Kissimmee location will be temporarily closing.

"We have chosen to temporarily close our Kissimmee store location at 2855 N Old Lake Wilson Road at 2 p.m. as part of an ongoing company-initiated program. This will allow extra time for a third-party specialist to further sanitize the store and will also give our associates additional time to restock shelves and prepare the store to once again serve the community. We plan to reopen the store to customers at 6 a.m. on Sunday, January 2," a release stated.

Walmart is currently offering $150 bonuses for associates who choose to become fully vaccinated and have not previously received the vaccination incentive."

Kissimmee Walmart temporarily closing

Walmart announced Friday that a Kissimmee location will be temporarily closing.

www.wesh.com

They still sanitize stores specifically for Covid? Weird.
restocking makes sense if they have been short staffed.

 

[disneygeek90]

I apologize I must have missed the question. It's not the easiest question to answer on a forum as it can be a forever argument. I personally when shopping for anything I take a long time to carefully choose what I want. So personally speaking I wanted to wait and see how people would react from the shot. Long term studies. However I've had covid, and natural immunity has been shown to be a great defense and one recognized in many countries. So essentially a virus with a very low death rate in my age group, no long term studies(I get the blow back from this), a country that doesn't advocate for better health/immune system building nor natural immunity (when it did at first, until vaccines rolled out) but just push vaccines and say it's the only way... then push for more vaccines. Everything that's been said has been altered. I'm reminded of Vader to Lando in Empire Strikes Back. I've altered the deal, pray I don't alter it any further. This is mainly my reasoning. I also have religious reasons. But I'll save that.

That’s like buying the “safest” car on the planet but then not using a seatbelt.

 

[Parker in NYC]

That’s like buying the “safest” car on the planet but then not using a seatbelt.

Put it in terms he can understand. It’s like building Rise of the Resistance but funding it like Iger and Chapek.

 

[Lilofan]

That’s like buying the “safest” car on the planet but then not using a seatbelt.

My aunt's former boyfriend's 1974 2 door Ford LTD was a somewhat safe car even with the occupants never wearing seatbelts. From the windshield to the front headlights seemed like a long distance with what I recall was an extremely long hood of any car.

 

[Ayla]

Walmart off 192/Old Lake Wilson closing until Sunday morning to "further sanitize the store" and restock -

"Walmart announced Friday that a Kissimmee location will be temporarily closing.

"We have chosen to temporarily close our Kissimmee store location at 2855 N Old Lake Wilson Road at 2 p.m. as part of an ongoing company-initiated program. This will allow extra time for a third-party specialist to further sanitize the store and will also give our associates additional time to restock shelves and prepare the store to once again serve the community. We plan to reopen the store to customers at 6 a.m. on Sunday, January 2," a release stated.

Walmart is currently offering $150 bonuses for associates who choose to become fully vaccinated and have not previously received the vaccination incentive."

Kissimmee Walmart temporarily closing

Walmart announced Friday that a Kissimmee location will be temporarily closing.

www.wesh.com

Two Milwaukee Walmarts closed for the same "reason". The real reason is too many employees are out sick.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

That’s like buying the “safest” car on the planet but then not using a seatbelt.

I’d argue it’s more like buying a car with a 3 star safety rating rather than buying a car with a 4 star safety rating because it’s “almost as good”.

Chances are pretty good the 3 star car will save you in a crash but why risk it when there’s better cars available and they don’t cost any more?

Especially if the 4 star car is offering a warranty that you can extend (boost) for free.

 

[Incomudro]

The American Heart Association, the medical profession and the entire medical triage system that is designed to get people to the cath lab within 90 minutes of the start of an MI would beg to differ on your assertion. This system didn't just happen because we decided it would be a good idea, it happened through massive expenditures of resources, and a huge public-provate cooperative effort. That we still lose people to MIs every year is not for want of every bit of effort to try to prevent many of them.

And also, a not insignificant number of those deaths lumped under the broad category of "heart disease" will occur in hospice settings, where comfort is the goal over survival.

We don't just say, oh well, a significant number of people will die of, let's say, pulmonary embolisms anyway, no point in try to prevent those deaths.

I'm not talking about the medical system, I know they want to save those lives.
I'm talking about political systems. They could care less.
I'm talking about your average American citizen. They could care less either.

 

[Incomudro]

I’d argue it’s more like buying a car with a 3 star safety rating rather than buying a car with a 4 star safety rating because it’s “almost as good”.

Chances are pretty good the 3 star car will save you in a crash but why risk it when there’s better cars available and they don’t cost any more?

Especially if the 4 star car is offering a warranty that you can extend (boost) for free.

Because the car with the 3 star safety rating may be a lot more fun.
I drive a VW GTI, which is very safe ratings-wise but would fair poorly against a much larger and heavier vehicle. (of the same price)
It's also known to be less reliable than many other vehicles of the same price by many other makes.
Well... People can drive their Honda Pilots, Toyota Rav4's, or any myriad of other more reliable vehicles that would likely clobber me in a head to head or t-bone impact.
The enjoyment of life isn't about maximum safety.

 

[Jrb1979]

I'm not talking about the medical system, I know they want to save those lives.
I'm talking about political systems. They could care less.
I'm talking about your average American citizen. They could care less either.

It's been that way since the beginning of Covid. The selfishness of the majority of people is disgusting. From the MaH fReEdOm crowd down to the "If only people are healthy" crowd it's all about ME ME ME.

 

[Lilofan]

Because the car with the 3 star safety rating may be a lot more fun.
I drive a VW GTI, which is very safe ratings-wise but would fair poorly against a much larger and heavier vehicle. (of the same price)
It's also known to be less reliable than many other vehicles of the same price by many other makes.
Well... People can drive their Honda Pilots, Toyota Rav4's, or any myriad of other more reliable vehicles that would likely clobber me in a head to head or t-bone impact.
The enjoyment of life isn't about maximum safety.

Missed my 1987 VW Golf back in the day , 85 horsepower , but at highway speeds it was very stable. One can fit a lot in a hatchback. Save the manuals!

 

[Incomudro]

Missed my 1987 VW Golf back in the day , 85 horsepower , but at highway speeds it was very stable. One can fit a lot in a hatchback. Save the manuals!

I fit my bicycle in that hatch!
I really wish Amercian's would embrace the hatch.
Well, they do when it's in SUV form.
Then again, I'm kind of glad that GTI's are a relative rarity.
Makes them more special, and makes me feel a bit like I'm one of the herd.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I'm not talking about the medical system, I know they want to save those lives.
I'm talking about political systems. They could care less.
I'm talking about your average American citizen. They could care less either.

Heart disease isn’t communicable. How exactly should the political systems and average Americans show more care?

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Because the car with the 3 star safety rating may be a lot more fun.
I drive a VW GTI, which is very safe ratings-wise but would fair poorly against a much larger and heavier vehicle. (of the same price)
It's also known to be less reliable than many other vehicles of the same price by many other makes.
Well... People can drive their Honda Pilots, Toyota Rav4's, or any myriad of other more reliable vehicles that would likely clobber me in a head to head or t-bone impact.
The enjoyment of life isn't about maximum safety.

We’re using metaphors to compare immunity from natural infection to immunity from the vaccines… how does “fun” apply to the metaphor?