Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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JoeCamel

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Essentially nobody is starting a vaccine series. Still looks to me like around a million people got one shot and never went back for shot #2. If the trend continues, when 5-11 are approved somewhere around half will get shots. The 40-59 age group probably lines up politically for who isn't vaccinated but for under 40 that's clearly not the case.

Cases down 33% week over week and 75% since the peak. If the trend continues the new case positivity will be under 5% next week and cases per 100k per day should be around 16. Also if the trend continues, the spike should essentially be over in two weeks.
You do understand the third shot was counted as a first shot until last week? I had half a dozen notices to come back for my second after getting the third. You put way too much faith in the reported numbers, it is the government doing this and when have you ever known them to be accurate. Always revisions and corrections then a whole new system is installed and none of it means anything.
Stop with the micro examination and just see the trends over a few weeks.
 

drizgirl

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There was a total of one parade at WDW before COVID, which was Festival of Fantasy. DL is the one missing the parades.
Which is a total of one more than they have now. It's a travesty that they had the 50th anniversary, complete with wall to wall people in the shops, and soon for fireworks, but they were "unable" to have a parade. And you are not allowed a photo with Mickey.
 

GoofGoof

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Which is a total of one more than they have now. It's a travesty that they had the 50th anniversary, complete with wall to wall people in the shops, and soon for fireworks, but they were "unable" to have a parade. And you are not allowed a photo with Mickey.
I saw they added lightning lane signs to some of the character meet and greet locations so maybe they come back soon or they may be just looking to rid the parks of the name fast pass so replaced the signs but aren’t planning to use them anytime soon. I had also read a rumor that they are waiting for all CMs to be fully vaccinated which is still a few weeks away. I believe the original announcement when they reached an agreement with the unions had a date of 10/22. Who knows if that’s true, but my guess is they won’t leave the potential for lightning lane profits on the table too long.

Ive got nothing on parades. I think the comments about parades costing money has to be the main driver. I agree it cannot be covid related at this point.
 

StarWarsGirl

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It possible still could be hiring-related. It takes a lot of talented cast to put on a parade.
We had a waiter at France who was a parade performer normally on one of our recent trips. It could definitely be that they're filling other roles that Disney is having trouble hiring for and/or that they found other jobs.
 

JoeCamel

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We had a waiter at France who was a parade performer normally on one of our recent trips. It could definitely be that they're filling other roles that Disney is having trouble hiring for and/or that they found other jobs.
Or were CPs before...
Lots of labor still unavailable to the mouse
 

correcaminos

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Safe and effective.... for 7 months.
Between you and another, I seriously wonder why the heck you are even here. Seriously. This isn't a game. This isn't a joke. Your comments do nothing at all to help the situation and it gets quite tiresome for those of us who actually are carrying the burden for people who don't bother to vaccinate. I just had a long conversation with an immunologist today. They are fed up with this kind of crap. We'd be way better off if people stopped putting doubts out there. But yes, social media and youtube are where people should go for info. Not real medical people. Last I checked it's safe for long term. Effective is still very strong and if people would shut up and vaccinate we'd be worlds better off, but yes, make short remarks to show how stupid vaccines are or whatever. Ugh, so tired of this.
 

skiir97

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Pfizer vaccine does not seem to hold up past 6~7 months. Are we going need a booster every six months?
is there any data of the immunity strength for those who previously got COVID?


Aren't antibodies expected to disappear over time? What matters is if the T-Cells can still recognize COVID.
 

skiir97

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Because all those that got the Pfizer shots at the initial mass vaccination stage are now compromised.

So again, effective for only 6-7 months.
Just because antibodies disappear, that doesn't mean you have no protection anymore. If memory serves me correctly, the body produces antibodies after getting the vaccine, however, after time has passed the body stops making the antibodies because the immune system realizes that there is no need to be making them. T-Cells should remember what COVID "looks like" so if the immune system ever detects COVID, the T-Cells should resume making antibodies.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this behaviour is the same for all vaccines (it's not like we have measles antibodies, but our T-Cells should be able to make the antibodies as needed)

The Moderna vaccine has exhibited the same behavior as well: https://globalnews.ca/news/8233115/canada-covid-19-boosters-christmas-moderna
 

Nubs70

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Just because antibodies disappear, that doesn't mean you have no protection anymore. If memory serves me correctly, the body produces antibodies after getting the vaccine, however, after time has passed the body stops making the antibodies because the immune system realizes that there is no need to be making them. T-Cells should remember what COVID "looks like" so if the immune system ever detects COVID, the T-Cells should resume making antibodies.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this behaviour is the same for all vaccines (it's not like we have measles antibodies, but our T-Cells should be able to make the antibodies as needed)

The Moderna vaccine has exhibited the same behavior as well: https://globalnews.ca/news/8233115/canada-covid-19-boosters-christmas-moderna
Prior infection does the same thing?

But the current metric is antibodies conferred by vaccination. No jab, no job.
 

skiir97

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Prior infection does the same thing?

But the current metric is antibodies conferred by vaccination. No jab, no job.

Yes prior infection would do the same thing.

This is a total guess on my part but I think the current metric is antibodies because that is all the data we have to go on right now. T-Cell data would probably take years to gather (in order to get the evidence needed to say that T-Cells do indeed remember how to fight COVID).
 

correcaminos

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Because all those that got the Pfizer shots at the initial mass vaccination stage are now compromised.

So again, effective for only 6-7 months.
The sample size was 46. FFS that's not worth betting up in arms over. It also said "These findings suggest that administering a booster dose at around 6 to 7 months following the initial immunization will likely enhance protection against SARS-CoV-2 and its variants."

That doesn't read at all about how it stops working completely at 7 months.
 
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