Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[DCBaker]

CDC tomorrow is going to issue new guidance which will make it possible for people who have exposed to the coronavirus to return to work more quickly by wearing a mask for a certain period of time.

Which isn't going to be easy if you can't get a mask.

 

[celluloid]

The people still insisting on bunching up in grocery lines tells me we haven't gone far enough.

Well that is just extremist. No one forces you to be near them. You keep reporting what you see in stores. Would it not be better in your extreme eyes to do one big grocery store run anyway and stock up for longer terms? Under your terms, you are risking more surfaces and others by frequent visits.
You could never have a world where you force courtesy. You take care of yourself and loved ones the best you can. No one forces you to be near anyone. It sucks but it is the way it is. The chances of someone catching it with really adverse reactions is slim, then the chance that they somehow pass that to someone else who was going to not die of something similar like another upper respitory is slim anyway.
The chance of them dying if they do not get food and eat. 100 percent.

 

[Nubs70]

I'm in the specialty chemical industry (though not pharma or fertilizers). We are still considering ourselves "essential" and going to work for those whos jobs cannot be done from home. (Maintaining all the appropriate hygiene/distance practices.)

Same here.

 

[Lilofan]

CDC tomorrow is going to issue new guidance which will make it possible for people who have exposed to the coronavirus to return to work more quickly by wearing a mask for a certain period of time.

Which isn't going to be easy if you can't get a mask.

If that's the case I would not want the infected person having lunch near me.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[LittleBuford]

That one is more obvious, but I gave the analogy for a reason. We all spread the flu and common cold our entire lives, and that never made us selfish when we felt good and did not know we had it or had to live as if we had it. If we start deciding who has to close or what we are allowed to do "for a greater good" to where many lose their persuit of happiness, we enter Animal Farm.

My point was on purpose that life is an inherent risk and a movie theater, fun spot, or some kids still choosing to go to the beach may have some arrogance, but everyone has their own line and limit to decide. Eventually we allike choices, yes driving in the rain increases your likely hood of dying and killkng others in a crash substantially, but even though millions around the country or billions around the world do it and often die or kill others, it is not as newsy.

They were partying even as we were all being warned not to congregate and socialise. The excuses have to end somewhere.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Guess what... most people walking around have 'pre-existing conditions' too - that doesn't mean they are on a death watch.

That depends. If the pre-existing condition is fatal. Then maybe.

 

[celluloid]

They were partying even as we were all being warned not to congregate and socialise. The excuses have to end somewhere.

Have you never been warned that driving in the rain can harm or kill you or others? Have you ever been warned that being out in lightning is dangerous but knew of someone finishing up one more task(in Florida especially deadly risk)? Do you think people have ever been warned that smoking is not jut harmful to them but they have a freedom to do it anyway? Do you think people make the choices every day when sick to work and support family knowing they are going to heal slower and risk getting another coworker sick? It is unfair for someone to say "well I don't know how this sore throat may effect Gerald at the office so I better not come in." Have you ever been warned of a risk and done something anyway? I am a safety nut and I know at a certain point, there is a difference between a warning and an enforced threat.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

@Magenta Panther

Your post was awesome.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

So you think we need guards keeping us in solitary confinement?

Come on...that's not at all what I'm suggesting. I just think we aren't getting through to people how important keeping the distance between them is.

Well that is just extremist. No one forces you to be near them. You keep reporting what you see in stores. Would it not be better in your extreme eyes to do one big grocery store run anyway and stock up for longer terms? Under your terms, you are risking more surfaces and others by frequent visits.
You could never have a world where you force courtesy. You take care of yourself and loved ones the best you can. No one forces you to be near anyone. It sucks but it is the way it is. The chances of someone catching it with really adverse reactions is slim, then the chance that they somehow pass that to someone else who was going to not die of something similar like another upper respitory is slim anyway.
The chance of them dying if they do not get food and eat. 100 percent.

Yeah, it would be nice if I could do that...but 1) I have to go out once a week for perishables, and 2) the store shelves are still basically empty, which guarantees that I have to go to more and more stores to find what we need. We are ONLY going out in public once a week for our shopping. I'm not trying to force anything, but general attitudes definitely aren't in line with what we should be practicing and are being told daily to practice. I am politely requesting that people keep their distance from me - and getting rude looks in return.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

face masks are like a plaster on a gunshot wound at this point

But for some it may be more akin to cosmetic surgery.

 

[Calmdownnow]

Guess what... most people walking around have 'pre-existing conditions' too - that doesn't mean they are on a death watch.

Makes you think doesn't it? Time to start asking what the triage perameters are in your locality. I know what mine are and realize that as a retiree, under 65, with adult (non-dependent) children, I am on the "do not waste equipment keeping this one alive" spectrum

 

[celluloid]

Come on...that's not at all what I'm suggesting. I just think we aren't getting through to people how important keeping the distance between them is.

Yeah, it would be nice if I could do that...but 1) I have to go out once a week for perishables, and 2) the store shelves are still basically empty, which guarantees that I have to go to more and more stores to find what we need. We are ONLY going out in public once a week for our shopping. I'm not trying to force anything, but general attitudes definitely aren't in line with what we should be practicing and are being told daily to practice. I am politely requesting that people keep their distance from me - and getting rude looks in return.

You have to buy perishables that last less than a week? Most perishable things last for at least that.
That is why it is such an extreme thing for you to be saying that people are selfish because they are not abiding or living by the way you think they should be handling this. There are many varying opinions, even within health groupds such as the CDC and WHO.
One could say that you are selfish for not planning ahead. Your carelessness are risking people's lives. Why could you not be like the people who plan food storage? The stores you are going to are empty because of the same thing you are doing. Panicing.

 

[LittleBuford]

This is Italy's "nightmare".

Why the scare quotes? The situation in Italy isn't sufficiently grim in your estimation?

 

[ImperfectPixie]

You buy perishables that last less than a week? Most perishable thing last for at least that.
That is why it is such an extreme thing for you to be saying that people are selfish because they are not abiding or living by the way you think they should be handling this. There are many varying opinions, even within health groupds such as the CDC and WHO.
One could say that you are selfish for not planning ahead. Your carelessness are risking people's lives. Why could you not be like the people who plan food storage? The stores you are going to are empty because of the same thing you are doing. Panicing.

For Pete's sake. Just stop. I'm NOT panicking. I'm not hoarding or panic shopping. THOSE are people contributing to the problem.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

You are attacking how people choose to handle this. Constantly on here you critique it like others are not doing enough because they are not handling it how you or your immediate family would. You answered none of the questions after saying how people in grocery stores are not abiding by what YOU think they should be doing. It sucks to be presumed about does it not?

That's the point. It's NOT what I personally think they should be doing. It's what we're ALL BEING TOLD TO DO.

 

[LittleBuford]

Have you never been warned that driving in the rain can harm or kill you or others? Have you ever been warned that being out in lightning is dangerous but knew of someone finishing up one more task(in Florida especially deadly risk)? Do you think people have ever been warned that smoking is not jut harmful to them but they have a freedom to do it anyway? Do you think people make the choices every day when sick to work and support family knowing they are going to heal slower and risk getting another coworker sick? It is unfair for someone to say "well I don't know how this sore throat may effect Gerald at the office so I better not come in." Have you ever been warned of a risk and done something anyway? I am a safety nut and I know at a certain point, there is a difference between a warning and an enforced threat.

None of these examples bears comparison to an imminent public threat that has put the whole world on lockdown.

 

[Patcheslee]

@Patcheslee What about Indiana Dunes and Indiana National Lakeshore? Have you heard if those parks, or others like them, will stay open?

I haven't heard, I'm between Indy and Louisville. We aren't under a statewide lockdown, but some counties are issuing travel advisories

DHS: County Travel Status

 

[Bartattack]

Nah...it’s just old people. Who cares?

Yeah, that's a mistake many are making in thinking this. People seem to forget that now that the hospitals are overrun with patients (and not only old ones... but also healthy young people who will pull through, but need serious treatment for a few days) what about other people (all ages) who need emergency treatments not connected with corona? When you have to start making choices who gets medical attention and who doesn't, then it gets really terrifying.

 

[GoofGoof]

Senator Rand Paul tested positive for covid19 , Senator Mike Lee is in quarantine due to him being exposed to Rand Paul, Senator Rick Scott still in quarantine. How did they vote, by phone?

It was 47-47 so 6 missing votes. They needed 60 to pass it so that wasn’t happening anyway.

They did talk about allowing votes by phone.