The old “ it’s not going to do much so why do anything “ is getting old and is why we are still in this kind of shape. Just stop with that ignorant argument. It won’t help everyone so why do it is the arguments we would have at recess when we were children.
The FL children who are in the hospital would disagree with you.
It isn't ignorant. It is an informed opinion and is not remotely the reason for the current state of COVID-19. A cost/benefit analysis should be done for all measures. Just because a measure does "more than nothing" doesn't mean it should be implemented.
Are there more of them in the hospital than are in the hospital during a bad flu season? If so, what percentage more? When discussing children it is a valid comparison.
Even though the ships are foreign registered which is irrelevant the ships depart from Port of Miami for example which is a few miles from South Beach ( sounds like within the state of FL to the obvious ) . I don't see the ruling being flipped. NCL is thinking of their ship passengers and safety , the FL Gov is not. Your statement of "cruises themselves don't occur within the state of FL for the most part" is incorrect.
Not sure about FL. Dallas Children’s isn’t exactly a small, rural player, though. From 6 days ago: https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronav...and-rsv-at-dallas-childrens-hospital/2719575/
I don’t see it being ultimately flipped, either. SCOTUS kind of showed their hand with that this week with the IU students’ complaint, when the most recent appointee didn’t want to hear their argument. Ultimately NCL will come out winning this case.
I'm sure Disney, Carnival, Royal Caribbean and etc whose ships all leave out of FL for example are following the Norwegian cruise line matter.
Jumping in late but I am sorry Cane, that is simply not true. The governor has signed an executive order (edited to correct that the legislature did not pass it) that makes mandating masks in public schools illegal. That order and the tone it has set at the start of the school year has already had significant negative consequences for the health and well being of thousands of people.
Making a mandate illegal is not making the underlying thing being mandated illegal. In other words, banning mask MANDATES is not a ban on MASKS.
Enough. Live in this state as a parent with children who have seen teachers die, classmates hospitalized and students yanked from school mid class thanks to a lack of mandatory mitigation policies— as well as a specific law banning such policies— and then come back here and try to tell me you have any idea what you’re talking about. No mitigation measure is 100 percent effective— but to take up the cause of anti-maskers at this point in the crisis through false equivalency arguments and shoulder-shrugging suggestions that mitigation measures are doomed to fail because children can’t wear masks properly is disingenuous — and it contributes to real pain and suffering.
No, but some mitigation measures are 0% effective and you're defending them.
@Virtual Toad , I have read many of your posts and I am very sympathetic to what your family is going through with regard to the children going to school. It broke my heart to read your post on Friday about how worried your child was after classmates tested positive.
As a parent the quite minimal “cost” of mandatory masking in schools in addition to responsible, common sense mitigation measures such as social distancing and virtual learning would have a tremendous “benefit.” That you would use these terms to frame the discussion is cold hearted and downright insensitive.
My apologies you are correct. Then it really is one person we are talking about.
Give me a break. Those of us in favor of reasonable safety measures including masks, social distancing and virtual learning options— responsible and common sense measures that were in place there last year under the same state leadership, BTW— are not in any way anti-vaccine. But you already know that.
Kids are not at meaningful risk! There's no such thing as a "reasonable" measures because no measures are necessary.
If FL legislatures do support then their current career may be a short one.
