Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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Casper Gutman said:
Time for WDW to defy the government with a vaccine mandate. Uni too, but WDW will have to lead the way.
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They could do that today, as a private business they regulate activities on their premises. They have to do it within the law but the order is for local governments regulating businesses not a business regulating itself.
Not going to happen, they will not exclude business.

I was wrong, the freedoms of private businesses to act in their own best interest have been abrogated in the great state of Floriduh
Glad I moved out this summer
 
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lazyboy97o

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JoeCamel said:
They could do that today, as a private business they regulate activities on their premises. They have to do it within the law but the order is for local governments regulating businesses not a business regulating itself.
Not going to happen, they will not exclude business.
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The executive order was replaced by a broader law. That’s why Norwegian Cruise line is suing the state.
 
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ArmoredRodent

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Kevin_W said:
The airlines say nothing about perfectly safe,
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Actually, they do. Take a look at Alaska Airlines "Breathe easy on your next flight" page: "Our aircraft recirculates fresh air from outside and through hospital-grade HEPA filters every 2 to 3 minutes. The filters onboard also remove 99.9% of airborne contaminants." And:
"All of these steps working together, along with mandatory masks, make it nearly impossible to contract COVID-19 when flying. In fact, research by the Department of Defense concluded that even if you were sitting right next to someone that has COVID-19 on your flight, it would take at least 54 hours to be exposed to an infectious dose."

There's a lot more. It's a very nice page, with references to articles and studies, even a video about how their planes stay clean. I've read it before and believed it. And when I was exposed on a flight resulting in Covid-related perniosis ("Covid toes"), as I've discussed in threads, it wasn't on Alaska Airlines. But it was on an airplane flight of one-tenth of 54 hours in length.
 
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Lilofan

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Virtual Toad said:
As should every other county, including Pinellas (St. Pete/Clearwater area) where we are. Especially when you consider that it’s the most densely populated county in the state. From the county’s website:

“There are 3,347 people per square mile in Pinellas County. The next closest county with a highly concentrated population is Broward with 1,445 people per square mile.”
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To seek revenge, Desantis of FL recently has sanctioned Broward ( Ft Lauderdale area ) and Alachua ( Gainesville area ) counties school system however the punishment he is seeking is not clear yet. November 2022 cannot come soon enough.
 
Heppenheimer

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Mewshuji said:
This is scary. Do we know if the hospitalizations include those who have been vaccinated? Or is it primarily those who haven't? Even if it's anecdotal data.
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I haven't seen any official data, but word of mouth from physicians in one southern state (sorry, I forget which) who were quoted at our recent hospital COVID roundtable report that 95% to upwards of 99% are unvaccinated.
 
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SammyMF

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Large corporations do pay income taxes in Florida. Just not as much as in most other states. Individuals do not. Nor do small businesses. Unless I suppose Disney has set itself up as a small mom and pop theme park.
 
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maui2k7

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Dreaming of Disney World said:
I feel so bad for the innocent children and adults doing the right thing in Florida who are suffering right now. :( I am so glad my family lives in New England, and that both my children's schools are requiring masks this year.
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The definition of “doing the right thing” varies depending on who you talk to.

Both sides are passionate about their point of view and until the CDC says the pandemic is over, there will be two opposing views on masks.

One side believes they work and kids should be required to wear them. The other side says they are harmful to a child’s mental health and do not agree that they help prevent anything. That will not change.
 
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Touchdown

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The good news is that it appears Florida peaked earlier this week. The bad news is hospitalizations will not peak for another two weeks and deaths won’t peak until a month from now. Here’s hoping for a longer drop then the UK had.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Polkadotdress said:
There are no state taxes. And Disney is "based" in Reedy Creek, which is the governing county for the property.
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Florida has a variety of state taxes including corporate income tax. Reedy Creek Improvement District is not entirely exempt from state and local laws and regulations. Disney collects sales and hotel taxes and pays property taxes to Orange and Osceola counties.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
MisterPenguin said:
It didn't have to be if everyone got vaccinated. Or it was mandated.
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I imagine they would have needed to exceed the best vaccination rates in the country to avoid this (their rates right now put them around the middle of the pack from what I remember, not far off from California as an example). Possible, but not ever probable. I wish it happened though. Really I was hopeful everywhere, including those states with the highest rates, would be higher. Just silly....

The best thing Florida has going for them is the high rates of vaccination for their most vulnerable. Obviously, that hasn't stopped what is happening. But it is still important.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Bocabear

Bocabear

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Andrew C said:
This changes things a bit for DCL...

disneycruiselineblog.com

Bahamas Imposing New Restrictions on Cruise Ships Including Stops at Private Islands – Requiring Passengers 12 and Older to be Vaccinated • The Disney Cruise Line Blog

Today, The Bahamas announced that cruise ships with passengers shall not be permitted to enter a port in The Bahamas, including a private stop, such as
disneycruiselineblog.com disneycruiselineblog.com
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Nothing could be worse than spreading disease to a thousand plus fellow cruisers and onto small island nations. Get vaccinated and be a good human being...
 
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