I thought the days of sanitation theater like this were long gone. What good is a "deep clean" of surfaces going to do for a virus that isn't transmitted on surfaces.(Not connected to my previous post)
Clearwater Walmart closed for coronavirus cleaning until Wednesday
The store at 23106 US Highway 19 North will be sanitized by a third-party cleaning crew.www.tampabay.com
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Roy G. Dis
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I have never been shot or murdered on my way to a bar in my fifteen years living in Chicago.It's hyperbole, I know, but you might get hurt worse just going to the bar, never mind sitting in there unvaccinated.
At Least 10 Killed, 61 Wounded In Weekend Shootings Across Chicago
At least 70 people have been shot across Chicago so far this weekend, and 12 of them have been killed.chicago.cbslocal.com
BrianLo
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I saw this in the NYT yesterday about the rise in RSV.
In addition to Covid, more children are getting a respiratory virus more commonly seen in winter.
An outbreak of respiratory syncytial virus, combined with growing Covid-19 pediatric cases, is straining hospital resources in some U.S. cities.www.nytimes.com
We're waiting for it... I don't believe we have documented RSV in Canada yet.
New Zealand was hit hard, now the US. I'm sure we're not far behind.
Willmark
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About as good as wearing masks outside.
im for cleaning a store or public space, no harm there. But agree on the sanitation theater as it relates to covid.
Kevin_W
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We have tickets to a NYC Broadway show in October. I got an email yesterday that I would have to have a copy of my vaccine card and a photo ID to get in the theater. I was mildly surprised, as I remember reading a year ago that Ticketmaster was working on an app-solution for vaccination. If feels like that will be a burden on the theater staff, and I don't see any way that manual method would work at WDW.
Kevin_W
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While I would call temperature checks sanitation theater, I wouldn't describe cleaning as such. Less likely to be transmitted on surfaces isn't the same thing as can't be transmitted, and I'm happy to have them sanitize the many other non-coronavirus germs that do happily live on surfaces.
Only two more weeks!
Bob Harlem
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I don't think it's anything in particular the UK did so much as whatever natural trend the virus is doing. How and why delta spikes and falls so quickly I'd really like to know. Does it just hit a wall of folks it can infect, or does it just burn itself out quick. Is it relative to prior infections? Is it enough people having it and just so asymptomatic that had no idea they even caught it?
That spike/fall is very different from the other spikes if you look at the past, particularly with the death rate being much much more flat. R1 estimates (https://covidestim.org/) continue to fall in Florida which is a good sign, even while cases go up for the time being, it may mean Florida peaks a lot sooner than the UK did. Especially since the hospitalization rates are up there with the flu outbreak from Jan 2018 in Florida.
ABQ
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I'm hopeful that your thoughts on the burn out rate of Delta come true in FL. So many things impact the spread. With the FL heat and people packed in many cases indoors for AC, it could be much different than the UK event. No idea till it happens.
"Mayor Bill de Blasio plans to announce Tuesday morning that New York City will require proof of vaccination for people participating in indoor activities, including at restaurants, gyms and performances, his latest attempt to spur more vaccinations, according to a city official.
The policy is similar to mandates issued in France and Italy last month and is believed to be the first of its kind in the United States.
The program will start later this month, and after a transition period enforcement will begin in mid-September, when schools are expected to reopen and more workers could return to offices in Manhattan."
"As part of the new program, New York City will create a health pass called the “Key to NYC Pass” to provide proof of vaccination required for workers and customers at indoor dining, gyms, entertainment and performances."
www.nytimes.com
The policy is similar to mandates issued in France and Italy last month and is believed to be the first of its kind in the United States.
The program will start later this month, and after a transition period enforcement will begin in mid-September, when schools are expected to reopen and more workers could return to offices in Manhattan."
"As part of the new program, New York City will create a health pass called the “Key to NYC Pass” to provide proof of vaccination required for workers and customers at indoor dining, gyms, entertainment and performances."
N.Y.C. will require workers and customers show proof of at least one dose for indoor dining and other activities.
“If you want to participate in our society fully, you’ve got to get vaccinated,” Mayor Bill de Blasio said. “It’s time.”
Disney Experience
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codestim.org is interesting but their data for percent ever infected has mistakes. Simple mistakes such as miami-dade graph using a fraction number between 0-1 for a graph of percent (0-100 ) (100x too small).
Additionally if the percent of pop previously infected is true (72% for miami dade) I think that , combined with those vaccinated, we would have a lot less cases in Mismi-Dade ( They are less per 100k, but not enough if so many already had it). So something is not right ( presentation or data ) I am sure the creators of it at Stanford, Yale, and Harvard can fix it.
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danlb_2000
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The risk of surface transmission is low, but it isn't zero. If there are closing the store they must have a reason to suspected that cleaning is needed.
disneygeek90
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Started sneezing a lot on Sunday evening, continued yesterday, and woke up with a mild sore throat today. Some minor congestion. Is sneezing even a symptom?
In some ways it seems more reassuring to just go get a test, even though it feels like a very minor cold. Hmm.
In some ways it seems more reassuring to just go get a test, even though it feels like a very minor cold. Hmm.
ABQ
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Hope he doesn't get the same reaction they got in France and Italy:"Mayor Bill de Blasio plans to announce Tuesday morning that New York City will require proof of vaccination for people participating in indoor activities, including at restaurants, gyms and performances, his latest attempt to spur more vaccinations, according to a city official.
The policy is similar to mandates issued in France and Italy last month and is believed to be the first of its kind in the United States.
The program will start later this month, and after a transition period enforcement will begin in mid-September, when schools are expected to reopen and more workers could return to offices in Manhattan."
"As part of the new program, New York City will create a health pass called the “Key to NYC Pass” to provide proof of vaccination required for workers and customers at indoor dining, gyms, entertainment and performances."
N.Y.C. will require workers and customers show proof of at least one dose for indoor dining and other activities.
“If you want to participate in our society fully, you’ve got to get vaccinated,” Mayor Bill de Blasio said. “It’s time.”
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Thousands protest against COVID-19 health pass in France
Thousands of people protested in Paris and other French cities on Saturday against a mandatory coronavirus health pass for entry to a wide array of public venues, introduced by the government as it battles a fourth wave of infections.
www.reuters.com
Disney Experience
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Might as well since PCR takes a few days to get results.( At least it did in June)
bpiper
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COMMON SYMPTOMS FOR ALLERGIES, COLD, FLU & COVID-19
| SYMPTOMS | ALLERGIES | COLD | FLU | COVID-19 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| BODY ACHES | Rarely | √ | √ | √ |
| CHILLS | No | No | √ | √ |
| FEVER | No | Rarely | √ | √ |
| HEADACHE | Sometimes | Sometimes | √ | Sometimes |
| NASAL CONGESTION | √ | √ | Sometimes | Sometimes |
| RUNNY NOSE | √ | √ | Sometimes | Rarely |
| SNEEZING | √ | √ | Sometimes | Rarely |
| ITCHY/WATERY EYES | √ | No | No | No |
| DRY COUGH | Sometimes | √ | √ | √ |
| SHORTNESS OF BREATH | Sometimes | Sometimes | Sometimes | √ |
| WHEEZING | Sometimes | Sometimes | Sometimes | Sometimes |
| LOSS OF SMELL | Mild | Rarely | Rarely | √ |
| SORE THROAT | Sometimes | √ | √ | Sometimes |
| NAUSEA, VOMITING, DIARRHEA | No | Sometimes | Sometimes | Sometimes |
StarWarsGirl
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Nope. Sounds more like a cold.
GoofGoof
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They say that if you are vaccinated a breakthrough infection feels more like a mild cold than traditional Covid symptoms but there is a ton of stuff going around right now besides Covid so it could be another virus as well. Maybe try a self test if you don’t want to go to get the full test done.
GoofGoof
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Just what we need….thousands of unvaccinated, unmasked people taking to the streets together to protest. Lets hope that doesn’t happen. It’s only NYC so maybe those people can just go to a bar or restaurant somewhere else. It’s not like it’s the whole state or country. I don’t know. I feel like maybe people will show up to protest who aren’t even directly impacted.Hope he doesn't get the same reaction they got in France and Italy:
Thousands protest against COVID-19 health pass in France
Thousands of people protested in Paris and other French cities on Saturday against a mandatory coronavirus health pass for entry to a wide array of public venues, introduced by the government as it battles a fourth wave of infections.
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