A former nurse, of all things.
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I’m not advocating that anything should be ignored. I’m just saying let’s run our own studies and compile data and analyze the results before we declare the vaccines ineffective after less than 6 months and we start rolling out boosters. That study is one piece of data (just like the UK study showing 88% efficacy vs delta variant), not the end all be all of the discussion that some people seem to want it to be. We are still trying to get the remaining people vaccinated and this is certainly not helping. Is it possible that officials are purposely exaggerating the lack of infections in fully vaccinated people? Sure, but all we have is the numbers they tell us. I have no way of knowing if it’s real or not.
From the attached:
Caseloads are skyrocketing in Orange County, almost exclusively among unvaccinated people, said Dr. Raul Pino, the local state health officer, and warned numbers could further climb.
Every new infection reported Sunday and the eight additional deaths reported since last week were among people without the COVID-19 vaccine.
COVID-19 cases surge in Orange County among unvaccinated; Demings urges masks indoors
Amid a surge in new COVID-19 infections — powered by the delta variant taking root in unvaccinated people — Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings said Monday vaccinated people should strong…www.orlandosentinel.com
In addition we have this article (some stats only reference hospitalizations or deaths but there are also stats on cases:
Statistics show the stark risks of not getting vaccinated against COVID-19
Recent figures from states and cities throughout the United States reveal the extent to which the virus is impacting people who are not fully vaccinated.abcnews.go.com
A former nurse, of all things.
Covid vaccine: Speech comparing NHS medics to Nazis condemned
The Royal College of Nursing says the comments at a protest rally were "reprehensible".
I remember coming across her name when I watched this interview of her son:
It’s not widely reported, but in the examples I quoted from Orange County FL, LA county in CA and Louisiana a very high percent of cases are among the unvaccinated. I haven’t seen a report from anywhere at all where they are saying a large number of cases are in fully vaccinated. Again, not saying there aren’t breakthrough cases but we aren’t seeing widespread issues yet.
Thank you for putting it into words better than I could.
We have our own set of crazies here, so don't worry, we know it's just the vocal wackos who sadly get others to follow.
A former nurse, of all things.
Covid vaccine: Speech comparing NHS medics to Nazis condemned
The Royal College of Nursing says the comments at a protest rally were "reprehensible".
I remember coming across her name when I watched this interview of her son:
And he had to be from FloridaFor anyone looking for someone to be mad at or to blame maybe this guy would be a good start:
The Most Influential Spreader of Coronavirus Misinformation Online
SAN FRANCISCO — The article that appeared online Feb. 9 began with a seemingly innocuous question about the legal definition of vaccines. Then over its next 3,400 words, it declared coronavirus vaccines were “a medical fraud” and said the injections did not prevent infections, provide immunity...www.yahoo.com
. Social media is a scourge on the civilized world. Their entire financial model is based on amplifying the voices of those who shout “fire” in a crowded theatre. Media literacy courses should be mandatory in our schools. Because sadly far too many people rely solely on FB for their news and have absolutely no clue they’re being fed destructive propoaganda.
Yeah that makes a ton of sense. I know we definitely left space. That was one nice thing about Covid lol.
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My son is in high school and they do talk about finding quality sources, but I agree...that should be it's own class and it should also cover thinking about the motivations of people who post things online.And he had to be from Florida
There are two groups of people being tested.I’m not advocating that anything should be ignored. I’m just saying let’s run our own studies and compile data and analyze the results before we declare the vaccines ineffective after less than 6 months and we start rolling out boosters. That study is one piece of data (just like the UK study showing 88% efficacy vs delta variant), not the end all be all of the discussion that some people seem to want it to be. We are still trying to get the remaining people vaccinated and this is certainly not helping. Is it possible that officials are purposely exaggerating the lack of infections in fully vaccinated people? Sure, but all we have is the numbers they tell us. I have no way of knowing if it’s real or not.
From the attached:
Caseloads are skyrocketing in Orange County, almost exclusively among unvaccinated people, said Dr. Raul Pino, the local state health officer, and warned numbers could further climb.
Every new infection reported Sunday and the eight additional deaths reported since last week were among people without the COVID-19 vaccine.
COVID-19 cases surge in Orange County among unvaccinated; Demings urges masks indoors
Amid a surge in new COVID-19 infections — powered by the delta variant taking root in unvaccinated people — Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings said Monday vaccinated people should strong…
In addition we have this article (some stats only reference hospitalizations or deaths but there are also stats on cases:
Statistics show the stark risks of not getting vaccinated against COVID-19
Recent figures from states and cities throughout the United States reveal the extent to which the virus is impacting people who are not fully vaccinated.
I thought she was that Congresswoman from Georgia at first, before I heard her accent.
Seems like the same personality type, for sure.
I imagine, like everything else, it depends on who is running the test and where the testing is happening. And what happens if people leave that question blank, when asked? Are they not going to test you? Doubtful.
I know it’s easy to just label me as dismissing the data and I could honestly care less, but I’m not sure how we can set policy and react to this study when it’s an outlier. I think we certainly need to study this further but we cannot react every time some additional study shows anything negative. If the only data we had was a single study from Israel that showed the vaccine efficacy is down to 40% then that would be much more troubling. Instead we have other recent studies like the one in the UK that showed 88% efficacy and a whole lot of real life case data that just doesn’t point to the same conclusions. What you are suggesting is we ignore the other data and plan as if this data from the single study could be accurate because it’s the worst and you always plan for the worst. I’m not sure that’s a solid way to set policy. Imagine if they started rolling out boosters now because of this data and it was later proven to be flawed. That would really damage the public confidence in vaccinations.
How could various states and localities report percentages if they were not tracking it?
