Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[BaconPancakes]

Anyone know how long masks will be required on transportation?

 

[correcaminos]

Anyone know how long masks will be required on transportation?

Probably September when federal guidelines for transportation and masking are lifted. Or so I've heard speculated/rumored.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Probably September when federal guidelines for transportation and masking are lifted. Or so I've heard speculated/rumored.

I'm afraid NJ Transit and Amtrak will expanding mask mandate for rail and buses until end of the year...

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Can you tell me where you saw this please? I received J&J and have been very curious whether or not I should get a second shot of either Pfizer or Moderna for better coverage. I've been following this thread but sometimes I end up so far behind that I have to skip a page now and then. Thank you.

Sure. It’s this guy... I know nothing about him good or bad. He was the one quoted several posts ago about 99.2% -

 

[Disney Analyst]

BC enters stage 3 on July 1st. State of emergency is ending.

Masks now recommended for 12+ who are not fully vaccinated, but no more mask mandate.

Most PHO orders will end. Indoor gatherings can resume as normal. Night clubs and casinos can reopen with limited capacity. Indoor dining no longer has to restrict number of people at a table and can resume late night liquor service.

Outdoor events up to 5,000 can commence.

Etc. Etc.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

BC enters stage 3 on July 1st. State of emergency is ending.

Masks now recommended for 12+ who are not fully vaccinated, but no more mask mandate.

Most PHO orders will end. Indoor gatherings can resume as normal. Night clubs and casinos can reopen with limited capacity. Indoor dining no longer has to restrict number of people at a table and can resume late night liquor service.

Outdoor events up to 5,000 can commence.

Etc. Etc.

The EAT for Stage 3 in Ontario is expected to be July 21 (Stage 2 starts tomorrow), but even then there will still be mask mandates.

 

[BaconPancakes]

Probably September when federal guidelines for transportation and masking are lifted. Or so I've heard speculated/rumored.

Unless that delta variant gets worse here. I feel like we’re going to have another surge once fall/winter is here.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Unless that delta variant gets worse here. I feel like we’re going to have another surge once fall/winter is here.

Please we don't need another surge once fall/winter is here...I'm scared about NJ/NY once fall/winter is here....is that really gonna happen if Delta variant gets worse once fall/winter is here? By the way by September as federal guidelines for transportation and masking will be lifted off soon possibity August maybe.....

 

[Flugell]

Cost isn't the only barrier. Just one example, but some of the hardest hit people in the southwest were migrant workers. These people tend to be uninsured, and given the state of healthcare in the US, tend to be unaware that they won't be charged for the vaccine. They also tend to be hard to reach with educational campaigns around vaccine safety and efficacy, while also believing that data collected during vaccination may put them at risk for legal consequences.

Well get rid of the legal consequences!
In the U.K. you can just turn up and get a vaccine now even if you are not registered with a doctor. The more people get vaccinated the safer everyone will be, so make it easy, not a cause for concern! If language is a problem, get a translator, if it is religious concerns then use a well respected figure in their religion. It is not morally right to put people at risk because they fear legal consequences. Let them be vaccinated and then deal with their legality through other means as should be happening now.

 

[Zummi Gummi]

Well get rid of the legal consequences!
In the U.K. you can just turn up and get a vaccine now even if you are not registered with a doctor. The more people get vaccinated the safer everyone will be, so make it easy, not a cause for concern! If language is a problem, get a translator, if it is religious concerns then use a well respected figure in their religion. It is not morally right to put people at risk because they fear legal consequences. Let them be vaccinated and then deal with their legality through other means as should be happening now.

There are no legal consequences here in the US, and you can show up with no appointment to pretty much any pharmacy and get a shot.

There are people who believe that getting the shot would expose their immigration status (it won't), and so they aren't going, however.

 

[Trauma]

So if they are wearing masks in their home you enter without one?

No one in the last 2 weeks has been wearing a mask when I have entered their home. Everyone used to be wearing a mask.

I have my mask with me and ask if I should wear it.

“Are you vaccinated?”

Yes I am.

Leave it off please.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

interesting but Vin Gupta did suggest that those who get j&j also get a booster of mrna.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

interesting but Vin Gupta did suggest that those who get j&j also get a booster of mrna.

I’m trying to find where the 99.2% data came from.

 

[correcaminos]

Unless that delta variant gets worse here. I feel like we’re going to have another surge once fall/winter is here.

Honestly I am unsure of even what to guess with things anymore. A part of me hopes that when FDA full approval comes things can change. I feel like I've done all I can until that point with helping so many people schedule or get to appointments and doing trial work. I cannot get through to those who have stuck their head in the sand. Much like Disney changes, I feel like we are in magic 8 ball territory.... I really don't know what will happen. I expect bumps for sure. I hope with any bump hospitalizations and deaths remain minimal. Or that I'm wrong and numbers don't go too high. Really just exhausted worrying at this point, so hope is all I've got.

I'm afraid NJ Transit and Amtrak will expanding mask mandate for rail and buses until end of the year...

As one who goes to NYC for work, to me that's not the worst thing if it does extend. I have masks for any places where they are required or needed just in case. Adopting a more eastern approach to masking wouldn't hurt either. Reality is masks aren't always fun, but we need to change views on masking as a whole. Not even pandemic related.

 

[correcaminos]

Well get rid of the legal consequences!
In the U.K. you can just turn up and get a vaccine now even if you are not registered with a doctor. The more people get vaccinated the safer everyone will be, so make it easy, not a cause for concern! If language is a problem, get a translator, if it is religious concerns then use a well respected figure in their religion. It is not morally right to put people at risk because they fear legal consequences. Let them be vaccinated and then deal with their legality through other means as should be happening now.

I do not mean to be rude but being from the UK I am not sure you can grasp all the issues with the US here. There are absolutely zero ramifications tied with the US. I know more than one illegal immigrant who is fully vaccinated. We have so much misinformation floating that even though all can be vaccinated (and no joke people came here for vaccine holidays outside of the country) even though there are no issues people perceive it differently. Even a friend who lost insurance for a few weeks after her husband's insurance ran out after he died of covid, was worried about cost or presenting information. We have to fight misinformation which is awful here. Not to mention accessibility for other people in terms of money lost for time off from work and such.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Well get rid of the legal consequences!
In the U.K. you can just turn up and get a vaccine now even if you are not registered with a doctor.

That’s exactly how it is the US, no appointment needed, no doctors needed, just walk in and get your shots in any of the tens of thousands of locations around the states.

Where I live in Las Vegas you don’t even have to prove you’re a resident of the state anymore, just walk in to a vaccination center and they’ll vaccinate you. A few months ago it was a challenge getting an appointment and you had to provide info to show you were in a qualified group but now the only goal is getting as many shots into arms as possible, in many cases there isn’t even a wait for walk ins anymore.

 

[Flugell]

Sincere apologies for my ignorance about the situation in the USA. I was replying to a posting by October 82 who suggested that legal status was a potential barrier to vaccination. Delighted that that is not the case and again apologies all round!

That’s exactly how it is the US, no appointment needed, no doctors needed, just walk in and get your shots in any of the tens of thousands of locations around the states.

Where I live in Las Vegas you don’t even have to prove you’re a resident of the state anymore, just walk in to a vaccination center and they’ll vaccinate you. A few months ago it was a challenge getting an appointment and you had to provide info to show you were in a qualified group but now the only goal is getting as many shots into arms as possible, in many cases there isn’t even a wait for walk ins anymore.

 

[DisneyCane]

Sincere apologies for my ignorance about the situation in the USA. I was replying to a posting by October 82 who suggested that legal status was a potential barrier to vaccination. Delighted that that is not the case and again apologies all round!

There is no legal barrier, however, some illegal immigrants may see it as a barrier because they fear getting discovered.

 

[correcaminos]

Pardon me for dealing with a family emergency before reviewing this thread. Political posts have now been removed.

Best wishes to you and your family!

Sincere apologies for my ignorance about the situation in the USA. I was replying to a posting by October 82 who suggested that legal status was a potential barrier to vaccination. Delighted that that is not the case and again apologies all round!

Possibly a better phrase the poster could have used, is perceived road blocks, not real ones. Knowing you are from the UK, I totally don't expect you to know the realities here much like I hope you don't expect me to know about where you live. Absolutely nothing to apologize for in my book! Not sure, but even that poster could have perceived issues wrong too for all we know. It is a total mess here with what the media and social media portray!

Our real issues for some are as I mentioned - inability to take time, or afford to take the time off to get vaccinated. Childcare during times needed. Actually holding clinics where people need them most (or bringing shots to those who do not have reliable transportation). Yes ride shares were offering free rides and YMCA childcare, but that only helps those who can use it (uber and lyft as well as YMCAs are not everywhere). It also doesn't help lost wages. We have to overcome horrible media (social media too) spread of wrong facts. I don't feel my state encourages vaccines enough. Not to be political but even our governor is hated now by those who won't listen and he's a conservative man. It's a bit ridiculous to be honest. And having so many differences in states here doesn't help. Even living here it's hard to figure things out

 

[Mark52479]

So if anyone saw the videos on youtube of last nights CM's fireworks preview, I think that will answer your question if Disney will ever go back to some restrictions.

Packed in there shoulder to shoulder just like pre-covid.