Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Zummi Gummi

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I wouldn’t put it past him to try but there’s some really strong precedents already set in federal labor law and it would be difficult to override them. It would likely end up in court so who knows what the outcome would be.
And a federal judge in Texas just ruled that a hospital had the right to require vaccinations of its employees, so I think if he or the legislature tried this, it wouldn't make it out of court.
 

havoc315

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So I am guess from the last few sentences that he means young adults? Maybe older teens? I mean young can mean my 8 year old, but she can't get vaccinated yet (counting down the months :( )

My understanding is that is is heavily weighted to unvaccinated under 50. Kids are still rarely in the ICU.
 

networkpro

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I always commended all the people that got into that. Me and running generally don't tend to go along too well. But if somebody tells me the only way I'm going to get on to Rise of the Resistance next year is by running a 6-minute mile to get there, by golly I will figure out how to do it for the first time in my life 🤣🤣🤣.

The day I retired from the Army was the last day I ran.
 

lazyboy97o

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And a federal judge in Texas just ruled that a hospital had the right to require vaccinations of its employees, so I think if he or the legislature tried this, it wouldn't make it out of court.
The dismissal was based on the requirement not violating existing laws. It would not have bearing on a new state law.
 

Touchdown

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DisneyDebRob

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Doesn’t matter, there seems to be an overwhelming abundance of virologists around here.

That and Constitutional scholars last year.
I have found that there are a few real doctors and virologists here and many that, upon further data collecting and investigating what some as you put it “ constitutional scholars” were right on the money and im not to proud to say I’ve learned a lot here from people. It’s the ones that just throw out nonsense with no links and no way to verify things is who I found annoying.
 

mmascari

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Also, I am curious. I thought it was very rare for a virus to mutate to something more deadly (against it's nature - wants to survive). More easily transmissible, yes, but I thought more deadly was rare.

Is Delta variant more deadly or it's just affecting the more vulnerable which makes it seem more deadly?

Of course it's an over simplification. I'm not a doctor or a scientist.

Which is why I asked.
What wasn't clear about the response?

The statement "very rare for a virus to mutate to something more deadly" isn't a correct statement. In it's simplification, it's lost the original intent and as such is suggesting something incorrect instead.

A better statement would be "very rare for a virus to mutate to something that kills faster than it spreads and not burn itself out".

Those two statements are NOT the same. Even if the common perception of the second is that it means the first.

COVID has a long way to go, the ability to mutate and become more deadly, before it will get anywhere near killing people faster than it can spread. Until that time, it's ability to kill people alone is not going to slow it's spread by eliminating people it's able to spread to.

Does that help?


Edit: That's not a prediction or doom and gloom. I'm not concerned about this outcome. It's a mechanics of why a more deadly virus runs it's course. Once a virus has spread to a second (and more) host, what happens to the first host is of no concern anymore (to the virus).
 

dreday3

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What wasn't clear about the response?

The statement "very rare for a virus to mutate to something more deadly" isn't a correct statement. In it's simplification, it's lost the original intent and as such is suggesting something incorrect instead.

A better statement would be "very rare for a virus to mutate to something that kills faster than it spreads and not burn itself out".

Those two statements are NOT the same. Even if the common perception of the second is that it means the first.

COVID has a long way to go, the ability to mutate and become more deadly, before it will get anywhere near killing people faster than it can spread. Until that time, it's ability to kill people alone is not going to slow it's spread by eliminating people it's able to spread to.

Does that help?


Edit: That's not a prediction or doom and gloom. I'm not concerned about this outcome. It's a mechanics of why a more deadly virus runs it's course. Once a virus has spread to a second (and more) host, what happens to the first host is of no concern anymore (to the virus).

I'll use that next time.
 

Mark52479

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As far as the variant or future variants, what level of cases would be the number for places like Disney to reimplement safety measures I wonder?

Yeah I dont think they ever will either. There would have to be some MAJOR MAJOR outbreak or something catastrophic for them to go back to implementing new safety measures.

They are now too far in with the 50th to go back.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Yeah I dont think they ever will either. There would have to be some MAJOR MAJOR outbreak or something catastrophic for them to go back to implementing new safety measures.

They are now too far in with the 50th to go back.
I think there would have to be a catastrophic resurgence for another lockdown to happen anywhere in the US, with vaccines now readily available people will revolt, I don’t see it happening.
 

DisneyFan32

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I think there would have to be a catastrophic resurgence for another lockdown to happen anywhere in the US, with vaccines now readily available people will revolt, I don’t see it happening.
I'm scared about a catastrophic resurgence for another lockdown soon in USA....Is this going to be really happen as COVID-19 outbreak will get major worse for this year and years?:eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Someone just posted a stat that 99.6 percent of hospitalizations are non vaccinated.
I’ve been trying to find where that article, which quoted a doctor, for that number. The number was 99.2... the CDC did say 99.2% of covid deaths were non-vacinnated. But I haven’t seen that number regarding hospitalization.

The doctor they quoted is also telling people who got the j&j to go back for a Pfizer or moderna “booster”
 
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