Sirwalterraleigh
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Woah...it went all “civil war” in here today, didn’t it?
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SamusAranX
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As per usual, the Yankee's are the aggressor
Joesixtoe
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Is that why Florida has around the same covid rates as California and New York despite having the highest elderly population in the United States, and being open for about a year longer than they were??? Is that why Florida has a lower unemployment rate as well? It's possible people simply ask questions instead of believing the "science" and politicians all the time. People have been questioning things and been told how wrong they were only for the truth or possible truths to come out later. Hence lab leak theory is greatly possible. Hence opening up the economy to soon is "barbaric" only to show its the exact same as when others don't open. It's ok though cause New York and California are the top 2 states people are moving away from, and Florida is the state people are moving to the most. But I suppose you probably believe the dumb ones are moving away while the smart intelligence ones are staying.
correcaminos
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I did see some communities pushing for their own here and there among these groups to gain trust, but really it's a lot harder to overcome. Though easier than the tin foil hat people who believe covid was a hoax. My cousin who is a mix like me, claims she refuses to be a guinea pig, but denounces her heritage and listens to her tin foil hat white boyfriend. So she's now not just a Hispanic woman who fears medicine, but one of the crazy hoax believers. I have a harder time reasoning with her than I do with other loved ones. Being in a trial helped so many not fear. But unless you have a personal connection that goes back far enough, the medical distrust is real and hard to get over. They require a different set of ideas to get over than the hoax believers.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Hint: don’t take the carrotAs per usual, the Yankee's are the aggressor
CosmicRays
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Sirwalterraleigh
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We don’t need to do this again...
but perhaps the development of therapeutics that lessened severity after the “ground zero” flash points did a lot of the dirty work?
dumb luck is great...just accept it and don’t decide to splain it away
MaryJaneP
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Do we know anyone that has relocated from Florida to the North to escape the long hot summers in FL? If so, why wasn't WDW built in a more temperate area?
aliceismad
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A lot of the reservations, including some of the ones I grew up near, are doing quite well with vaccination rates. It did take some time to get there, though. Some of these stories are out of date, but there has been a lot of progress made.
Covid deaths ravaged this Native American tribe. Now, it says 98% of eligible citizens are vaccinated.
Vaccination efforts have been so successful for the Blackfeet Nation in Montana that it shared surplus doses with Canada and will help vaccinate tourists visiting Glacier National Park.
www.nbcnews.com
Why American Indians have some of the highest vaccination rates
Data shows the American Indian demographic has the highest vaccination percentage in the country, and that trend is similar within the 12 federally recognized tribes in Michigan.
www.woodtv.com
Navajo Nation outpaces wider US: 60 percent fully vaccinated
Navajo Nation leads the US in vaccination rates, despite rural population, by meeting people ‘where they are’.
SamusAranX
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Maybe I am a dumb Floridian cause I don’t understand this phraseHint: don’t take the carrot
SamusAranX
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I think @Heppenheimer hit the nail on the head; while there are problems in specific region, a common theme is high vaccine acceptance among Americans who are older (84 percent plus last I looked in 65+). It’s the younger groups for the most part who are lagging regardless of location.
lazyboy97o
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Remember that Walt Disney World wasn’t supposed to be a vacation resort. Downtown EPCOT was essentially planned to be a giant enclosed shopping mall connected to other areas by transit. The recreational activities were secondary to the need for land and a willing government. It has also gotten hotter over the decades while we have been collectively conditioned (pardon the pun) to air conditioning.
Horizons '83
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- In the Parks
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It's really tough to have a civil conversation when someone won't even hear you out and automatically goes on the defensive. There are some that are really great at it, at least listen and hear you out. Others like said poster above, try to simply post a cnn article to prove a point, which is being completely missed by him, and then offend essentially everyone in the South, in which I live. Not really productive or needed.
Sirwalterraleigh
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it’s also pockets of demographics and politics...even in “Yankee” states.
that’s a problem everywhere. I’ve seen it/heard it in one of the most “covid conservative” ones
Horizons '83
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But I'm a southern idiot that loves carrotsHint: don’t take the carrot
I must be an anti-vax'er/anti-masker, that cares about no one else, that is going to continue to let scariants spread.
Sirwalterraleigh
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You’re not that at all...I’m appalled...But I'm a southern idiot that loves carrots
I must be an anti-vax'er/anti-masker, that cares about no one else, that is going to continue to let scariants spread.
...you do seem a little to willing to swallow what Disney is spraying at times though
DonniePeverley
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You know, like, basic facts and stuff.
CDC now calls coronavirus Delta variant a 'variant of concern' | CNN
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now calls the Delta variant of the novel coronavirus, also known as B.1.617.2, a "variant of concern."www.cnn.com
Turns out my comment was outdated from an article I had read just a few days ago. Way back then, it was doubling every two weeks, now it's every 7-10 days.
And we're not even getting good data out of Florida - only once a week - so it will take 3 weeks to even begin to spot a trend.
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"As of Sunday, the Delta variant was responsible for about 10.3% of US Covid-19 cases, according to Dr. Eric Topol, the founder and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, whose outbreak.info has been tracking variants throughout the pandemic.
The may not seem like a lot, but the speed with which it's spreading is a concern.
"It doubles every seven to 10 days, which means when it gets to three weeks from now, this variant will be dominant," Topol said. "That means we have two to three weeks to just go flat out with vaccination to stop this trend."
Vaccinations generally seem to keep variants in check. The Alpha strain, for instance, is the dominant strain in the United States and has been since about late April. But with exceptions such as Michigan, it didn't cause surges in cases in most parts of the country.
Topol said that the US was able to "ante up" and go "full tilt on vaccination" when the variant arrived in the United States.
Most blue states will make Biden's July 4 vaccine goal. The red ones won't.
With the Delta variant, Topol isn't as optimistic.
"This is the most troubling variant by far, because it's another 60% more contagious than the Alpha, so it's a super spreader strain," Topol said. But the vaccination rate is stalling.
While 43.9% in the US is fully vaccinated, according to the CDC, the rate at which people are getting vaccinated has been slowing down.
In Mississippi, nearly 29% of population is fully vaccinated. In Alabama it's less than 31%. In Arkansas, less than 33%. In Louisiana, Georgia, and Wyoming it's less than 34%, according to CDC data."
The USA's vaccination rate is not that high. The Delta Indian variant will become the dominant strain - and then we will see cases go up again.
You only have to look at what is happening in the UK. The rates in the UK have gone up 200% in a few weeks, which a more tranmissible variant.
I'd enjoy the parks now before rates go through the roof again.
Can’t we all embrace “and”
Fact: The Southeastern United States has the worst vaccination rate in the country
Fact: If you get more granular you find a more nuanced reasons, but because the SE has a much higher amount of white non college educated men, Republicans, and African Americans than other regions accounts for this poor showing.
Fact: The Southeastern United States has the worst vaccination rate in the country
Fact: If you get more granular you find a more nuanced reasons, but because the SE has a much higher amount of white non college educated men, Republicans, and African Americans than other regions accounts for this poor showing.
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