Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[CaptainAmerica]

Unless you’re 11, then it’s 50% less mitigation. We all assume source control worked better than self protection, so the 50% that’s more effective too.

Maybe that kid spilled their drink on you, maybe they took a wiz. What’s it matter, you’re wearing pants right?

Lot of 11 year olds running around sneezing on the equipment in the gyms near you, are there?

 

[mmascari]

Lot of 11 year olds running around sneezing on the equipment in the gyms near you, are there?

Yup, and they’re jacked too.

I wouldn’t want to run into one in another store either. They’ll mug you for a slushy.

 

[Figgy1]

Yup, and they’re jacked too.

I wouldn’t want to run into one in another store either. They’ll mug you for a slushy.

Tweens are gross

 

[Chomama]

Literally nothing.

If you're vaxxed, and an unvaxxed person lies..... so what?

If you are immunocompromised- a whole heck of a lot can go wrong. No one should be lying about this.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

If you are immunocompromised- a whole heck of a lot can go wrong. No one should be lying about this.

AMEN.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

If you are immunocompromised- a whole heck of a lot can go wrong. No one should be lying about this.

I didn't say people SHOULD be lying.

People should get vaxxed. And follow the rules. And tell the truth.

I'm saying to people who have been vaccinated, "Don't stress. You're good."

 

[Chomama]

I know you aren’t. I get it. I’m just saying if you are immunocompromised AND vaccinated you do actually still have to be concerned if others aren’t vaccinated. Someone lying about that is not cool. I know what you meant. Sorry if it seemed like I was being combative. Just frustrated with the narrative of - if you are vaccinated don’t worry about anything. Some people can’t be, some people don’t get full coverage due to immune issues and transplants,, kids under 12 etc etc. I am annoyed with jerks. I am also not concerned about going mask free with my small kids outside at Disney. My family has no health issues and my bigs are vaccinated.

 

[sullyinMT]

I see it the reverse way. I’ll wear one so if you’re shopping with your youngest you don’t have to worry if I’m vaccinated or just reckless.

Frankly, I don’t need the stress of people wondering. I also don’t want the stress of wondering when out with my youngest.

Couple more weeks, my county will be fine, couple after that probably my state, hopefully couple after that the whole country. At this point, I can manage that for indoors or crowds just fine.

That’s a fair point. My area isn’t a couple weeks away. More like 8-10 weeks, at best, to hit even 50% of the eligible (12+) population, let alone total.

In your situation, or even close to similar, I could be patient, too.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I know you aren’t. I get it. I’m just saying if you are immunocompromised AND vaccinated you do actually still have to be concerned if others aren’t vaccinated. Someone lying about that is not cool. I know what you meant. Sorry if it seemed like I was being combative. Just frustrated with the narrative of - if you are vaccinated don’t worry about anything. Some people can’t be, some people don’t get full coverage due to immune issues and transplants,, kids under 12 etc etc. I am annoyed with jerks. I am also not concerned about going mask free with my small kids outside at Disney. My family has no health issues and my bigs are vaccinated.

I mean I get it, but if you're waiting for a world that's totally safe for the immunocompromised, that's not going to ever be a thing.

 

[Chomama]

I mean I get it, but if you're waiting for a world that's totally safe for the immunocompromised, that's not going to ever be a thing.

I know but 70% vaccinated is waaaay safer than 40% and unmasked. I live somewhere with really low vaccine uptake and it sucks

 

[Archie123]

Literally nothing.

If you're vaxxed, and an unvaxxed person lies..... so what?

Nothing except if you are an unvaccinated person who comes in contact with some person with covid. No sweat off of my shoulders as I’m vaccinated but it is not literally nothing. Sorry Cap but you are wrong.

 

[Polkadotdress]

If you are immunocompromised- a whole heck of a lot can go wrong. No one should be lying about this.

I didn't say people SHOULD be lying.

People should get vaxxed. And follow the rules. And tell the truth.

I'm saying to people who have been vaccinated, "Don't stress. You're good."

Me. I’m immunocompromised here in FL. Doc says I need to continue to mask EVEN THOUGH I’m vaccinated...until we get to 70% fully vaccinated.

Otherwise, lots can go wrong by being exposed to an unmasked/unvaccinated person.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Nothing except if you are an unvaccinated person who comes in contact with some person with covid. No sweat off of my shoulders as I’m vaccinated but it is not literally nothing. Sorry Cap but you are wrong again.

Why do you, a vaccinated person, care if unvaccinated people are out infecting each other?

 

[Polkadotdress]

Why do you, a vaccinated person, care if unvaccinated people are out infecting each other?

Because they don’t “just” infect each other.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Because they don’t “just” infect each other.

You don't seem to have a solid grasp of just how effective these shots are.

 

[Chomama]

Me. I’m immunocompromised here in FL. Doc says I need to continue to mask EVEN THOUGH I’m vaccinated...until we get to 70% fully vaccinated.

Otherwise, lots can go wrong by being exposed to an unmasked/unvaccinated person.

I’m sorry. I know each shot matters for you and we are trying. Hang in there!

 

[Archie123]

Why do you, a vaccinated person, care if unvaccinated people are out infecting each other?

Yeah why should I worry about other people LOL. I mean if some unvaccinated person catches Covid and then goes home and pass it along to other people with his family why should I care. I guess I care because I want this pandemic to end…oh and I have a some sense of compassion.

 

[Polkadotdress]

You don't seem to have a solid grasp of just how effective these shots are.

I think you missed me previous post...the vaccine does not provide the same level of coverage for me, and many other immunocompromised. We are not in the 90% efficacy range, so we need help from society/herd immunity to ensure we don’t encounter Covid.

 

[GoofGoof]

That’s a fair point. My area isn’t a couple weeks away. More like 8-10 weeks, at best, to hit even 50% of the eligible (12+) population, let alone total.

In your situation, or even close to similar, I could be patient, too.

This is a good point. My county has just under 60% of the total population vaccinated and close to 75% of adults now. It’s much easier to say wait a few weeks or a month and we will be at the numbers we need. PA is approaching 70% of adults with 1 shot so we are likely around 4 weeks or so away from hitting 70% of adults fully vaccinated which effectively ends all Covid mitigations in the state. Seeing interim steps like the CDC guidance on vaccinated individuals is still very positive, but we are literally at the finish line for safely hitting good targets to end everything.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Yeah why should I worry about other people LOL. I mean if some unvaccinated person catches Covid and then goes home and pass it along to other people with his family why should I care. I guess I care because I want this pandemic to end…oh and I have a some sense of human decency.

That logic only held up when access to the vaccine was limited. It's not anymore. Meaning the people you're describing are *choosing* to take the risk.