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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion
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JusticeDisney
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You’re simply dead wrong. What we are doing now will lessen the number of people who get the virus which, in turn, will not overtax the hospitals and medical equipment which, in turn, can lead to a lower mortality rate.
TrainsOfDisney
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I mean add me to the list. I’ve been going into my local coffee shop daily. I could be only making coffee at home, like it’s suggested. I don’t think police should be able to threaten me for that. And so far they haven’t.
And yes I realize I will be called selfish for going to a coffee shop today..... and that is also part of the problem.
Fordlover
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We are better suited today to deal with this virus than at any point in American history, the question is will we take advantage of our capabilities and pursue safer alternatives to business as usual, or will enough people continue to shrug off the seriousness and continue the spread?
LittleBuford
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I wonder why they're delaying. Five days is a long time.
ImperfectPixie
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Okay, but you're a regular customer at that coffee shop, right? Usually dealing with the same people? Are you keeping your distance from them or are you in a single room with a couple hundred other people?
lebeau
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How is that part of the problem? Genuinely curious what your line of thinking is on that statement.
21stamps
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I’m posting this email.. my 2nd update of the day (we receive daily updates)..
I think it’s interesting for 2 reasons -
1. None of our dates have been pushed back even with the new guidelines.
2. US Youth Soccer is going to let this remain in the hands of states... not a national directive. After this original order expires.
(Really the 2 main points if people want to skip reading
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Though, also interestingly, prior to now the tournaments were being left up to the organizations, now those are also shut down. - I’m good with this.
I hope everything continues to work on this 2 week evaluation period, and not announce extensions of closures/cancellations too soon.
I think it’s interesting for 2 reasons -
1. None of our dates have been pushed back even with the new guidelines.
2. US Youth Soccer is going to let this remain in the hands of states... not a national directive. After this original order expires.
(Really the 2 main points if people want to skip reading
)Though, also interestingly, prior to now the tournaments were being left up to the organizations, now those are also shut down. - I’m good with this.
I hope everything continues to work on this 2 week evaluation period, and not announce extensions of closures/cancellations too soon.
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RobWDW1971
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It's not binary, everybody has a scale of tolerance. I doubt your position is that having the economy destroyed is worth it for saving just one person, so therefore you have some inherent amount you think is "worth it" even though you are uncomfortable saying it. 1,000 seniors? 10,000? 100,000? 1 million?
That's what makes it an interesting philosophical conversation.
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Shouldigo12
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I might have missed it, but I didn't see where in the article it said Italians were ignoring the lockdown.There are still alot of people in Italy who are ignoring the lockdown. You have to ask yourself do you want to be Italy.
Italy coronavirus deaths rise by record 475 in a day
Nearly 3,000 people have now died from coronavirus in Italy - the most affected country after China.www.bbc.com
Doing things are only when it is convinient (I am not innocent in this) and easy for people and or sellable news. Jobs shutting down and still paying people with distancing from popular tasks is easy when places close up.
People drinking and driving kill 29 people a every 24 hours in just the United States but people are already complaining over bars being shut down in this climate.
I. Not saying the CDC advice is not good advice and this cannot be for the greater good, but imagine if we cared or enforced this like drinking and second hand smoke.
It almost always is a business decision. That is what PR departments are for and why these major resorts in properties even after their theme parks closed tried to remain open. Cost, fear and travel bans caught up with them.
People drinking and driving kill 29 people a every 24 hours in just the United States but people are already complaining over bars being shut down in this climate.
I. Not saying the CDC advice is not good advice and this cannot be for the greater good, but imagine if we cared or enforced this like drinking and second hand smoke.
It almost always is a business decision. That is what PR departments are for and why these major resorts in properties even after their theme parks closed tried to remain open. Cost, fear and travel bans caught up with them.
RobWDW1971
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Actually that conversation is going in every mayor's, governor's, prime minister's, and president's office around the world. That's how you decide on how much of the economy to shut down, how much martial law to enforce, how long the curfew will be, etc. It is exactly that trade off of cost/impact vs. potential saved lives. BTW, if you don't have the exact conversation, than you will never be able to understand if your actions created the proper result. The goal is to do X to generate Y results. Otherwise, you are in a hysterical mode of "I will do "something" to hope for "something!".
You didn't - there was nothing in there that suggested that.
That's crazy. Extract every dime from the rowdy drunken spring breakers from all over the USA in Clearwater FL. No wonder there are Florida jokes abound.
LittleBuford
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And a clear consensus has emerged, uniting pretty much every government in the world: we need to flatten the curve.
21stamps
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I think a lot of people have a misconception about what’s going on in Italy.. yes, they’re quarantined, but not fully.. they can still go the grocery. It’s not a complete shut down.
Disney tried the same crap with the hotels and resorts. They tried to justify that the virus would not be any more spreadable in a crowded building then a crowded theme park or open beach.
21stamps
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He’s talking about to what degree of shutdowns we’re willing to take to do that. Hence, why you don’t see everything here shut down right now.
Those are the conversations and decisions being made.
TrainsOfDisney
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Becaue I’ve read my history books on how government control works. Getting people to “tell” and shame their neighbors is usually not a good thing. Naturally I’m not comparing this to true tragedies like the Holocaust and Rawanda... but getting people to shame and tell on neighbors were a part of those stories. It creates a dangerous precedent.
I also believe that Italy is what scared the USA and others into moving on this... it’s why Disney Parks were open so long. Until Italy numbers rose so fast, we weren’t that scared. Did Italy do anything to prevent it? The USA was already moving to slow the spread... did Italy do things like that?
I have friends on Facebook who are at the beach. I have other friends who have quarantined family members from family members. I’m somewhere in the middle. I’m going to my local coffee shop, Starbucks for a passion tea, and picking up food at Publix. Other than that, working from home and watching Disney+.
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