Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Mark52479]

Agree with the bolded. All of the anti-passport rhetoric is easily interpreted as anti-vaccine rhetoric. Even as my governor was issuing a press release of him getting his first dose, he was promoting the same drivel as other states. Disappointing, really.

There has to be incentives given for the younger people. It is the only way they will ever really listen. And Figure heads ARE NOT doing that.

Mayor of OC hit it right on the head. "you go get your vaccine, we hit a certain level and things open up without restrictions".

More of that needs to be done.

 

[Flugell]

I completely agree with setting an example for others who have to follow the rules. But I hope the rules will be quickly changed in response to changed circumstances. I'm fine with wearing a mask if it's actually doing something to stop the spread of the virus. I'm not fine with wearing one to be polite, signal that I care about others, stop others from worrying, etc. When it gets to the point that most people are vaccinated or have the ability to be vaccinated, those reasons will no longer be good enough. At that point (and I'm not saying right now) either mitigations should be dropped or a system should be instituted to exempt vaccinated people from those mitigations.

I do agree, in general, that at a point in the future mitigation should no longer be mandatory but remain optional! The difficulty is probably deciding when that point is. My personal plea would be for vaccination passports for everything then we could mix in safety and behave normally- if we can remember how to!
Having heard today that the world wide number of deaths has exceeded 3,000,000 that has given me pause to think. Brazil, Mexico and India amongst others are really suffering at the moment and spread from those countries into others could potentially derail all our efforts. So do we wait with no conceivable end in sight? Not a popular choice in my opinion! Do we agree a level at which time we lift all mitigation? Hard to achieve but possible, yet with risk of new surges and mutations? Or do we take the passport route? Again a very controversial option which would isolate a significant proportion of the population. I’m glad that I merely have to accept whatever decision is made and don’t have to make it! The phrase damned if you do and damned if you don’t springs to mind!

 

[JoeCamel]

With the J&J pause they've had to cancel the mass (240 dose) clinic for our county for this weekend. Hopefully we will hear something soon and be able to pick back up. Considering it accounts for about 10% of vaccinations complete here, that's a big step back.

Back in January DeSantis was adamant against "vaccine tourism" when doses were first being given out, but I'm sure he'd quickly change his mind of supply was significantly outpacing demand.

and it looks like it is starting to outpace the demand.

Here in FL people had to get up 7am to get on the Publix and CVS website to book appointments. Now, no more. CVS and Publix you can go on RIGHT NOW and get an appointment.

Agree with the bolded. All of the anti-passport rhetoric is easily interpreted as anti-vaccine rhetoric. Even as my governor was issuing a press release of him getting his first dose, he was promoting the same drivel as other states. Disappointing, really.

If supply outpaces demand in places then some of the excess needs to be moved to where it can go in arms. Not just intrastate but interstate

Oh, and advertise that is what is happening, might up demand

 

[Stitch826]

Vaccination percentage in my hospital system (>7000 employees) has stalled at 70%, where it has been for over a month. Disappointingly low, as there has been a strong campaign to get people educated, time off guaranteed, etc. And this is in Illinois. I suspect much lower in other states.

I didn’t like the idea of vaccine passports at first but might change my mind.

I agree that some incentive to get people vaccinated soon is needed. Whether it is the vaccine passport or a stimulus check distributed once you’ve gotten fully vaccinated, something will need to push people to the shots. I was against the idea of the vaccine passport for the longest time, but seeing the number of cases rise and countless people refusing to get vaccinated, something must be done to ensure a quick return to normalcy. Restaurants, movie theaters, amusement parks, cruise lines, sports teams, concerts, etc. can’t survive like this long term.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

If supply outpaces demand in places then some of the excess needs to be moved to where it can go in arms. Not just intrastate but interstate

Oh, and advertise that is what is happening, might up demand

"Because on April 30th, COVID vaccines are going back in to the Disney Vault!"

"Don't miss your chance to get vaccinated today!"

 

[MisterPenguin]

"Because on April 30th, COVID vaccines are going back in to the Disney Vault!"

"Don't miss your chance to get vaccinated today!"

Hurry! Tell me where to pay $60 to get a vaccine now!!

 

[Mark52479]

I agree that some incentive to get people vaccinated soon is needed. Whether it is the vaccine passport or a stimulus check distributed once you’ve gotten fully vaccinated, something will need to push people to the shots. I was against the idea of the vaccine passport for the longest time, but seeing the number of cases rise and countless people refusing to get vaccinated, something must be done to ensure a quick return to normalcy. Restaurants, movie theaters, amusement parks, cruise lines, sports teams, concerts, etc. can’t survive like this long term.

For the younger crowd, IMO, Vaccine Passports not the way to go. These kids HATE HATE being forced to do things. They will do the opposite when they are forced. That is just their mentality.

Come out and be calm and tell them, college parties, bars, nightclubs, etc..... all the things these kids like to do, WILL HAPPEN again. Just lets all get this vaccine behind us.

That IMO will work better than giving them an ultimatum.

 

[disneygeek90]

If I had to guess, thats going to be the next thing to go down here in Florida.

Will be open to anyone from any place to get the vaccine here in FL

Only issue with that is the delay between first and second shot. Either they're taking a month long vacation or they need to come back down in 3-4 weeks. I could definitely see some do it but it might be more of a hassle than just getting it in your own state as availability begins to increase.

 

[Mark52479]

Only issue with that is the delay between first and second shot. Either they're taking a month long vacation or they need to come back down in 3-4 weeks. I could definitely see some do it but it might be more of a hassle than just getting it in your own state as availability begins to increase.

Yes true. But i do know someone who go her first shot at CVS in FL and her second shot at CVS in NY.

So maybe that become more widespread.

 

[BlindChow]

For the younger crowd, IMO, Vaccine Passports not the way to go. These kids HATE HATE being forced to do things. They will do the opposite when they are forced. That is just their mentality.

Come out and be calm and tell them, college parties, bars, nightclubs, etc..... all the things these kids like to do, WILL HAPPEN again. Just lets all get this vaccine behind us.

That IMO will work better than giving them an ultimatum.

It isn't just the "younger crowd." There's a whole political class of people who refuse to get vaccinated simply because "the authorities" are telling them to get one.

And those things they like to do? They're already doing them now. No amount of "You can stop wearing masks!" or "You can gather indoors with friends!" will entice them if they're already allowed to do them without reprisal.

That's the advantage of vaccine verification: if they aren't allowed into the nightclub because they don't have proof of shot, then maybe that pushes them into getting one. The whole "Maybe if we ask them nicely!" approach to getting people vaccinated is doomed to failure, imo.

 

[pixie225]

NYC just announced anyone 50+ can walk in to any city-run vaccination site - there are about 40 of them spread throughout the 5 boroughs - without an appointment and get vaccinated. This excludes state run sites such as Javits Center, Aqueduct, etc. Hopefully some will take advantage of this.

No Appointment Needed: New Yorkers 50 Can Get Vaccinated at These NYC Sites

City-run vaccination sites will now offer vaccines to New Yorkers 50 years and older without an appointment.

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[disneygeek90]

It isn't just the "younger crowd." There's a whole political class of people who refuse to get vaccinated simply because "the authorities" are telling them to get one.

And those things they like to do? They're already doing them now. No amount of "You can stop wearing masks!" or "You can gather indoors with friends!" will entice them if they're already allowed to do them without reprisal.

That's the advantage of vaccine verification: if they aren't allowed into the nightclub because they don't have proof of shot, then maybe that pushes them into getting one. The whole "Maybe if we ask them nicely!" approach to getting people vaccinated is doomed to failure, imo.

Yep, just take a look at Ivanka Trump's instagram comments from her latest post. There's no convincing those people and it's pretty concerning.

 

[DCBaker]

Numbers are out - there were 74 new reported deaths.

 

[Kevin_W]

I spoke too soon this morning, running 2-2.5°F fever now. I've been asleep most of the day and think I might go do that again!

 

[GaBoy]

I spoke too soon this morning, running 2-2.5°F fever now. I've been asleep most of the day and think I might go do that again!

Building those antibodies. Got my second Moderna Thursday. Think I'm in the clear until night time then get puny. Feel great the next morning. Do feel more "with it" today then yesterday. Glad to have it.

 

[DCBaker]

Current Florida vaccine report -

 

[correcaminos]

It isn't just the "younger crowd." There's a whole political class of people who refuse to get vaccinated simply because "the authorities" are telling them to get one.

And those things they like to do? They're already doing them now. No amount of "You can stop wearing masks!" or "You can gather indoors with friends!" will entice them if they're already allowed to do them without reprisal.

That's the advantage of vaccine verification: if they aren't allowed into the nightclub because they don't have proof of shot, then maybe that pushes them into getting one. The whole "Maybe if we ask them nicely!" approach to getting people vaccinated is doomed to failure, imo.

Yep, there are former classmates of mine this way. I have been indifferent to passports, but see how it could be good.

 

[TheGuyThatMakesSwords]

I spoke too soon this morning, running 2-2.5°F fever now. I've been asleep most of the day and think I might go do that again!

Kevin_W - This is actually a GOOD thing. Your body is doing what it should do: REACTING.
DW & I are now fully MODERNA vaccinated. Shot #1? Nuthin . Shot #2? About a 36 hour period of chills, low grade fever, fatigue.

At 68? We found this to be superior to DEATH .

 

[Incomudro]

It could be because she's 94 years old. From what I've read, the few breakthrough cases that have occurred tended to be in very elderly people and the immunocompromised because they are not able to create a sufficient immune response to the vaccine.

I get that, and that is understandable.
What I don't understand is that some people online are finding something deep and meaningful about her sitting alone with a mask on.

 

[Incomudro]

Because it’s the RECOMMENDATIONS/RULES and although she could probably have changed them, she chose not to. She stands shoulder to shoulder with all people in the U.K. who have had funerals, weddings etc. under these strange circumstances. And that is most definitely the point service, loyalty and setting an example.

Yeah, about that...
I find it sick and sad to see a woman of her age at her husband's funeral following a rule that in this instance isn't helping anyone.
It's like stopping at a stop sign if you were alone on a wide open desert road where you could clearly see there were no other vehicles around for a mile in either direction.