Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Armerius]

Hey guys i need your help for some information. in florida you are supposed to have proof of residence to vaccinate, is this actually enforce in practice or when you go to vaccinate nobody ask for any papers? plz any floridian who can answer this would be MUCH appreciated. thanks in advance.

 

[wdwmagic]

Hey guys i need your help for some information. in florida you are supposed to have proof of residence to vaccinate, is this actually enforce in practice or when you go to vaccinate nobody ask for any papers? plz any floridian who can answer this would be MUCH appreciated. thanks in advance.

Yes according to the info that has been released and info from people who have been vaccinated, proof of residency is required.

 

[Armerius]

Yes according to the info that has been released and info from people who have been vaccinated, proof of residency is required.

damnit..ok thanks

 

[wdwmagic]

damnit..ok thanks

They're ally clamped down in it after Florida became a tourism vaccine hotspot.

 

[Armerius]

They're ally clamped down in it after Florida became a tourism vaccine hotspot.

yes i see there is no requirements in texas,, arkansas etc.. o might have to aim there i guess.

 

[Incomudro]

Little kids in school aren’t exactly avoiding contact and are where this sort of spread is rampant.

Nation wide, most of us avoided the rest of us in ways that the nation hasn't seen in centuries.
That's going to reduce the number of communicable diseases.

 

[Incomudro]

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Source? I scanned several databases and didn't see anything about obesity rates showing any particular acceleration during the pandemic.

It was already pretty bad prior to the pandemic anyway.

New York Times article dated March 22nd.

 

[DisneyCane]

Most of the arguments here are grossly over simplified. Restaurants are struggling terribly due to the pandemic. It’s an over simplification to just blame government imposed capacity limits for that. Take a place like FL which has no capacity limits on restaurants and hasn’t had them statewide since September. Did no restaurants in FL go under since September? Are all workers back to work? Are all the restaurants making normal profits or even any profits? Just taking away restrictions isn’t going to be a light switch to return restaurants to profitability. Same goes for all aspects of the economy. You can have everything open with no restrictions but you can’t force people to participate. So the tastes great, less filling debate of protecting health or protecting jobs is flawed because they are intertwined. If we actually did a better job controlling Covid spread the economy would have been greatly helped too. On the flip side, having too strict of restrictions unnecessarily damages the economy without a large increase in public health benefit. That’s why the plan all along should have been to have reasonable restrictions that limit things that are known to be higher risk for exposure while not unnecessarily restricting things that have shown to not be as risky. In a lot of places that’s exactly what did happen. Restrictions in December were much different than restrictions last March/April.

If we look at WDW it’s the same story. The precautions in place have allowed them to stay open and given a large number of the people who visited the comfort to feel safe while visiting. The economy isn’t about me or you individually it’s about what the masses will do so even if you aren‘t afraid of a virus and/or you are young and healthy so don’t feel it’s a big risk and/or you would go to WDW without masks and distancing right now that doesn’t mean the masses agree with you. That may be your preference but it’s not what’s best for Disney as a business. I have a hard time fully believing a lot of the people who continuously rail about the economy. I think the true motivation in some cases is just being allowed to do what you want to do but that seems selfish and so people hide behind the economy.

Many counties in FL, especially the higher population ones, still have restaurant capacity restrictions and have since September. From speaking to some owners, break even is the best case for dine in at 50% capacity.

Some restaurants would have closed due to people not being comfortable eating out, however, fewer would have been put out of business or forced to lose enormous sums if not for government imposed restrictions.

 

[HarperRose]

Nation wide, most of us avoided the rest of us in ways that the nation hasn't seen in centuries.
That's going to reduce the number of communicable diseases.

Or, it could be the obvious answer of masks actually work.

 

[GoofGoof]

Many counties in FL, especially the higher population ones, still have restaurant capacity restrictions and have since September. From speaking to some owners, break even is the best case for dine in at 50% capacity.

Some restaurants would have closed due to people not being comfortable eating out, however, fewer would have been put out of business or forced to lose enormous sums if not for government imposed restrictions.

I don’t disagree that a lot of restaurants are at best breaking even at 50% capacity. You are assuming they would be filled to 100% capacity if they were allowed to be fully open. I don’t think that would be the case for most restaurants and that is my point. How many of those restaurants are full to their 50% capacity limits and turning customers away? I haven’t heard many stories of people going out to eat and not being able to find a table. The limits prevent some restaurants and bars from packing in people, most likely on a Friday or Saturday night. A large number of restaurants aren’t filled to capacity most of the time even with a 50% cap. Not all of the loss in demand is mandated by the government. A lot of it comes from people altering their behavior. We’ve seen from mobility studies that as cases dropped in areas people did more and as cases spiked people pulled back on activity. It’s possible that some restaurants could have actually done better if they were consistently filled to 50% capacity because cases were down and more people were eating out.

 

[danlb_2000]

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New York Times article dated March 22nd.

I found the article, it is behind a paywall, but the little I could see appears to show it is based on this research letter. The data in this shows the increase in weight during the lockdown, but it doesn't seem to compare it to weight change outside of lockdown, so I am not sure what conclusion can be drawn from it.

Body Weight Changes During Pandemic-Related Shelter-in-Place in a Longitudinal Cohort Study

This cohort study investigates whether the shelter-in-place orders in the US during the early weeks of the COVID-19 pandemic were associated with changes in body weight among adults.

jamanetwork.com

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I have a hard time fully believing a lot of the people who continuously rail about the economy. I think the true motivation in some cases is just being allowed to do what you want to do but that seems selfish and so people hide behind the economy.

Exactly. Which is why any idea that the business should adapt to the world around them is slapped down.

I don’t want businesses to close. But I see businesses thriving because they chose to adapt.. that’s how the world works. It’s why the poor blockbuster employees have been out of a job for a while!

 

[Chi84]

Or, it could be the obvious answer of masks actually work.

Analysis: Experts Agree, Distance, then Masks • Paso Robles Press

Paso Robles Press is the daily online news source and weekly print newspaper for the Paso Robles area, serving the community since 1889.

pasoroblespress.com

 

[Parker in NYC]

Oh man. All I was saying is it felt wrong to be so dismissive of restaurant closings as in - oh well, so sad, they should get a different job.
I think the poster said some crappy things, was extremely dismissive of other people's problems and I said so. I still think so, but no one will change anyone's mind. The part about who can easily switch over to delivery was just a conversation about differing experiences and thoughts on the matter - that conversation went a little wonky and I think there was a misunderstanding of what people meant, on my part also.

I'm not commenting on why or if restaurants should have closed. I've always supported precautions that needed to be taken, but was also able to recognize the economic suffering of those affected by such closings. You can do both.
Just like you can care about people's lives and people's livelihoods at the same time.

It's like either you have to be one extreme or the other. Any rational, reasonable people who sit in the middle - someone from either extreme tries to categorize them. Or everyone else just shouts over their opinions.

I won't be categorized!

(anyways, I'll stop cluttering the conversation with this)

Funny, I've seen plenty of folks in this thread dismissive of people getting sick and dying from this thing AND of CMs losing their jobs. Eh, it happens, that's life, right?

 

[GoofGoof]

Analysis: Experts Agree, Distance, then Masks • Paso Robles Press

Paso Robles Press is the daily online news source and weekly print newspaper for the Paso Robles area, serving the community since 1889.

pasoroblespress.com

Way back in the beginning when masks first became recommended the narrative was that masks should be worn anywhere in public where it’s impossible or impractical to maintain 6 feet of distance. Remember the one way arrows on the ground in aisles in stores. Over time we’ve sorta just determined that masks are needed anywhere in public because as it turns out people are very bad at distancing. Now that could be a chicken or the egg situation and maybe people ignore distancing because everyone is wearing masks. Either way, I agree with the point that masks would be less relevant if people actually maintained 6 foot distancing, especially outside.

 

[dreday3]

Funny, I've seen plenty of folks in this thread dismissive of people getting sick and dying from this thing AND of CMs losing their jobs. Eh, it happens, that's life, right?

Unless you can find a single post where I've said anything of the kind (and if I did, I would have to apologize profusely as I don't ever want to be dismissive of someone dying), I don't see why you are quoting my post.

 

[Heppenheimer]

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New York Times article dated March 22nd.

That article quoted a small, non-randomized study that noted people specifically "on lockdown", which is not what most of us have been doing the majority of time over the past 12 months, gained an average of 0.5 lbs over 10 days. Interesting, but that's hardly the same as and certainly not definitive evidence that obesity rates have accelerated during the pandemic.

 

[Chi84]

Way back in the beginning when masks first became recommended the narrative was that masks should be worn anywhere in public where it’s impossible or impractical to maintain 6 feet of distance. Remember the one way arrows on the ground in aisles in stores. Over time we’ve sorta just determined that masks are needed anywhere in public because as it turns out people are very bad at distancing. Now that could be a chicken or the egg situation and maybe people ignore distancing because everyone is wearing masks. Either way, I agree with the point that masks would be less relevant if people actually maintained 6 foot distancing, especially outside.

Masks are essential because people need to actually live during the pandemic and there is no practicable way to avoid each other to the extent necessary to stop the spread of disease. But it's people who transmit the virus to one another, so I don't understand how anyone could think masks would be preferable to avoiding one another. I just posted without comment because I don't know how to argue with emojis.

 

[networkpro]

Getting the ole Pfizer poke today, fairly impressed Georgia has opened up to all. Appointments are tough to find but that will change with time.

There are plenty of locations outside of the Atlanta metropolitan area with available appointments. It might not be convenient and might take time but they are available.

 

[corsairk09]

Hey guys i need your help for some information. in florida you are supposed to have proof of residence to vaccinate, is this actually enforce in practice or when you go to vaccinate nobody ask for any papers? plz any floridian who can answer this would be MUCH appreciated. thanks in advance.

I went to Publix. They asked for my Drivers License and that was it. I signed up as a teacher and they didn't even as for a teacher ID.