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Politics Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Kevin_W

Well-Known Member
I hope the money allocated helps with logistics. It’s easy to add headcount for more phone operators, people to direct traffic, people to track vaccinations and schedule appointments. That’s stuff where people can be trained pretty quickly. We have millions still unemployed and underemployed who would be glad to have a paying job or some extra income.

Actually, a friend of mine just volunteered for a county task force. They are working in a call center (hopefully adequately spaced!) and calling seniors to schedule appointments. So they aren't even getting paid.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Actually, a friend of mine just volunteered for a county task force. They are working in a call center (hopefully adequately spaced!) and calling seniors to schedule appointments. So they aren't even getting paid.
I did see they were starting that around me too. A community group was organizing volunteers. Definitely a worthwhile cause. Maybe they could offer to move people up the list a little if they volunteer their time.
 
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Flugell

Well-Known Member
You're helping to prove what @ParkerLoLsis saying. The more people do these things and don't bother following social distancing protocols, the more time it will be until the world can get back to normal and socialise as we did before despite the vaccines being rolled out. We're all fed up but I don't want to go around meeting people and risk spreading a disease I don't have symptoms for to somebody else, who could then pass it onto a vulnerable person who ends up in hospital or dies. That's how these things work.

It's why we're now in a third lockdown in the UK. Our government's incompetency is obviously a major contributor, but people don't follow the rules, cases fly up and unfortunately people pass away. I've seen my parents a handful of times since last March, and I've seen my friends in person once. My wife fully moved from the USA to the UK right before the UK first locked down and we can't get back to the USA to see her parents. It sucks and we missed out on a Christmas in the US as well as taking my parents to WDW for the first time since 2002, but it's what has to be done. I just wish everyone thought like that.
I agree that life is tough in Britain, as it is all over the world. However I feel blaming the government is somewhat unfair. No one knew how things were going to pan(Demic!) out.
The distribution of the vaccinations seems to be going well. I strongly believe that there is a north/south divide with people in the South being much more anti lockdown. I am in Manchester and our Mayor has behaved appallingly, in my opinion, focussing on business over lives.
The furlough scheme, amongst many others is giving support to businesses and workers, maybe not enough but much more generous than many countries.
My husband and I have been self isolating since February, though he walks the dog every day, late at night to avoid contact with anyone. My elder son lost his job in August after being furloughed, but got another one within 10 days, not suitable for a history graduate, but I am so proud of him for taking a job as a driver so he remained working. Our younger son, who lives in Cardiff (Wales) has not been able to visit us, or us him, since Christmas 2019. We have followed the guidance/rules and will continue to do so until it is safe not to. We have remained in contact with friends and family through phone and Skype etc. and our experience shows that they are all following the rules.
We were due to have a 6 week holiday in Florida with 3 weeks in Disneyworld so we’re seriously impacted in many ways.
The government has made mistakes, probably less than some countries and more than others but I do believe that they are doing their best in a totally unique situation for virtually everyone alive today. Just like us they are unable to see into the future and have to make decisions in good faith.
It is the most horrific job to have at the moment! I would like to believe that I would support any government at the moment, as long as I believed that they cared for people above businesses- support the businesses but if it’s a choice support the lives of people.
I totally agree that people should be able to follow rules for the sake of humanity. Life may not be as much fun as it was but it’s still life!
I hope that you get back to the United States, before too long and that your parents are able to get to Disneyworld and have a fantastic time!
Stay safe, keep the faith, we will get through this- eventually!
 

Flugell

Well-Known Member
Yeah, and?
You can't keep people away from people forever.
It goes against the nature of the species.
Even many high risk people have had enough of it.
How do you KNOW many high risk people have had enough?
My husband and I are high risk and will keep isolating until the risk of infection is much lower thanks to vaccines, herd immunity or the virus mutating until it is less potent.
People who go out without following guidelines are, I believe, showing little empathy or compassion for those at risk. I appreciate that it could be said that those of us who are following the guidelines could be accused of showing little empathy or compassion for those who wish to return to some form of normality. The difficulty is that we have so much more to lose........
 

oceanbreeze77

Well-Known Member
So this one impacts the spike protein more than the other ones....not to fear monger, but that's not good...at all.

Research is still being done on it, so lets all hope and pray its found to be compatible with the vaccine.

Good thread. read it all
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
So basically anyone can get the vaccine, just take a single puff on a cigarette, you are now a smoker and can get the vaccine.

...that’s not a great plan either🤪

Have we embraced the “ya only need one”? Dose here?
That’s again beyond stupid...might as well put them in mailboxes in Appalachia and have the townsfolk boil it down and sell it at the gas station while we’re at it?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Very little of this makes sense. Yesterday, my governor said our ~40% distribution was actually 72% because of Federal holdbacks. But there are no Federal holdbacks?

Your governor might have been too trusting?

I think what I read is that they had already started releasing the federal reserve before it was officially announced. Based on the announcement made, many states were expecting a surge of doses delivered next week, but the numbers forecast for delivery next week already included any left in reserve.

It appears...which mean production isn’t on the projected targets at all.

I know that’s shocking 🤞🏻

I have no more words to express my anger.

Why you mad bro?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I agree. The economy and tourism is going to crippled for years from this.

Who was disputing this outside of a Tallahassee tanning salon??

Was going to do the same thing!

The article mentions there is no reserve b/c the manufacturing supply had stabilized. So OWS did not see a reason to hold back.

What’s unfortunate is that many locales were hoping to dramatically increase vaccination rates, but now can’t because their weekly allocation will be the same.

This is going to take forever...

Probably 1.5 years at this rate...and that doesn’t address that they won’t get 80% to take it
 
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DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
What’s the crux of the theory?
I can't even figure it out. Something about a nursing manager saying to prepare to use recovery rooms for COVID patients next week due to a coming crisis.

I guess the implication is it is a fake crisis since this manager knows it's coming. I guess? I'm not too big into social media so maybe I'm missing something.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
How do you KNOW many high risk people have had enough?
My husband and I are high risk and will keep isolating until the risk of infection is much lower thanks to vaccines, herd immunity or the virus mutating until it is less potent.
People who go out without following guidelines are, I believe, showing little empathy or compassion for those at risk. I appreciate that it could be said that those of us who are following the guidelines could be accused of showing little empathy or compassion for those who wish to return to some form of normality. The difficulty is that we have so much more to lose........
Not all high risk people have had enough but I personally know a few who have.

My brother's friend's mom who was very high risk (over 65 + health issues) died. She was infected by her husband who started having beer night with a bunch of friends a few months ago. All the friends were also in the high risk age group.
 

Polkadotdress

Well-Known Member
I can't even figure it out. Something about a nursing manager saying to prepare to use recovery rooms for COVID patients next week due to a coming crisis.

I guess the implication is it is a fake crisis since this manager knows it's coming. I guess? I'm not too big into social media so maybe I'm missing something.
I searched Twitter and found some crazy videos about people being removed from their houses due to Covid in Broward. Weird.

Re: the video you speak about--Maybe the nurse mgr is actually saying "be prepared" due to that crazy mutated form the virus coming, which will cause cases to spike insanely?
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
I searched Twitter and found some crazy videos about people being removed from their houses due to Covid in Broward. Weird.

Re: the video you speak about--Maybe the nurse mgr is actually saying "be prepared" due to that crazy mutated form the virus coming, which will cause cases to spike insanely?
Insane conspiracy theories being removed by Facebook.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
I searched Twitter and found some crazy videos about people being removed from their houses due to Covid in Broward. Weird.

Re: the video you speak about--Maybe the nurse mgr is actually saying "be prepared" due to that crazy mutated form the virus coming, which will cause cases to spike insanely?
That's kind of what I thought. Maybe the COVID ICU was getting near capacity so they were preparing to expand capacity if needed. I certainly wouldn't have interpreted that "warning" as some kind of conspiracy.

Ever since I saw that seemingly intelligent people think there are tracking nanobots put in the vaccine that were created by Bill Gates I've learned there are people who believe some pretty crazy stuff.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I can't even figure it out. Something about a nursing manager saying to prepare to use recovery rooms for COVID patients next week due to a coming crisis.

I guess the implication is it is a fake crisis since this manager knows it's coming. I guess? I'm not too big into social media so maybe I'm missing something.
I thought the spike was coming because a certain high profile “villain” is moving in to the next county up this week and he’s bringing all his no mask wearing, Covid infected friends....there goes the neighborhood ;););)
 

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