Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Lilofan]

In a month we'll forget about this virus because it won't be in the news and they'll just find another way to scare people through the media. Quick, try to remember what panic happened in 2009 with the Swine Flu. You can't, because we didn't panic. The world didn't go nuts at that time. This time they made people panic and go out and buy bulk toilet paper without needing to put a gun to their head.

The real cause for concern is how this will affect the global economy going forward. If the NBA, NHL, Disney, Universal, etc. all close their doors that is a bad sign, not for the end of the world or nothing, but just that it shows how ridiculous this panic has been overblown.

Before anyone says "Don't you care about the deaths?"
The answer is yes I do. But considering in the same time frame 10x more people have died worldwide over the flu, I think we need to just relax. We'll be fine. But if they were hoping to have the world economy impacted negatively it might just work.

Where Dreams Come True is what you're thinking. It's more serious than you think.

 

[Horizons '83]

Working from home for at least the next 3 weeks. Strange times but its the right move, and to all the people who were lined up at the Bars on the weekend.... why?

 

[danlb_2000]

During the last financial crisis the company I worked for had people take mandatory week long non-paid furloughs. We were able to collect unemployment for those weeks.

The one catch, the unemployment office required you to be "available for work". I used one of my weeks for my honeymoon, so I couldn't collect un-employment during my Disney honeymoon.

 

[Incomudro]

Looking at the break down right now in other countries with higher numbers than the US , specifically South Korea and some European countries, you don't see this materializing. Even in countries that have been over run with this such as Iran and Italy, while it isn't good, it has not been apocalyptic. Everything needs to be put into perspective. Assuming the data coming out of China and Iran is accurate, if these countries with substandard health care are dealing with the problem, why wouldn't the US be able to deal with it better? Just recently you had a former high ranking government official in the previous administration claiming on social media that there would be 1 million deaths in America because of this. Grossly irresponsible.

Yes.
We can't make a direct comparison country to country.
There are so many variables, from population density, age, general health of the population, health care facilities and on and on.
In France, thousands die from heat waves.
Thousands.
From heat waves.

 

[celluloid]

Working from home for at least the next 3 weeks. Strange times but its the right move, and to all the people who were lined up at the Bars on the weekend.... why?

Addiction.

 

[arich35]

Just curious what banks are doing around your areas? I work at a bank and so far no talks of limiting hours or anything but a family members bank is going to drive thru only, no lobby hours.

 

[21stamps]

I posted this elsewhere, but want input here as well-

Here’s the rates I’m getting from high school students for babysitting/help with school work from 8-5 or 9-6 on weekdays. (I would do whichever is more convenient for them)
$10 per hour
$12 per hour
$15 per hour

Am I wrong for being frustrated by this???
I understand that these are typical rates for babysitting, but in this scenario? And especially when the high school kids will be doing their own school work during that time as well????

My kid is going to be 10 years old next month. 4th grader.

 

[celluloid]

I posted this elsewhere, but want input here as well-

Here’s the rates I’m getting from high school students for babysitting/help with school work from 8-5 or 9-6 on weekdays. (I would do whichever is more convenient for them)
$10 per hour
$12 per hour
$15 per hour

Am I wrong for being frustrated by this???
I understand that these are typical rates for babysitting, but in this scenario? And especially when the high school kids will be doing their own school work during that time as well????

Why let yourself be so frustrated by that? They are gaining more employment and negotiated the compensation.

 

[ELG13]

The nerve of him to even show his face on TV. Imagine he went state of state just to buy those.

It was like he was bragging. Talking about how he thought he was setting his family up financially. LITERALLY at the coat of others lives. His wife cant be much better..if my husband even attempted something like this is stop him in his tracks. I say he donates it to retirement homes, hospitals, homeless shelters....places with high risk populations that need it but couldn't get it because of jerks like him.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I posted this elsewhere, but want input here as well-

Here’s the rates I’m getting from high school students for babysitting/help with school work from 8-5 or 9-6 on weekdays. (I would do whichever is more convenient for them)
$10 per hour
$12 per hour
$15 per hour

Am I wrong for being frustrated by this???
I understand that these are typical rates for babysitting, but in this scenario? And especially when the high school kids will be doing their own school work during that time as well????

I don't think the older students' workload will be what it was while they were attending school. Our schools were very much blind-sided and my son's teachers told him there'd be work, but not much.

Adult pay rates for babysitting range from $10-$15 per hour...until you add special needs into the mix, then it jumps to $35. I've been looking to arrange after-school care for months so I can look for work in earnest. Whoever babysat my kids would basically just be here to make sure they don't burn the house down and could literally sit on their butts watching TV or play video games. Had a local friend whose high-school aged son was looking to make money, but he declined. Interviewed a college student (who was so perfect that I was crying tears of joy afterwards, and I even added helping her write her school papers because I was an English major), and she blew me off.

 

[21stamps]

Why let yourself be so frustrated by that? They are gaining more employment and negotiated the compensation.

It’s obscene when a good portion of that time will be spent on their own work as well.
I’m shocked that their parents are supporting those fees. $30-$50 per day is what I was expecting.

 

[Nubs70]

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My husband's boss just flew home to MA from FL before it got to a point that he would be unable to return. He IS laying people off. My husband isn't one of them, but his boss told him to take 2-3 weeks off because hubby is high risk due to heart issues. With me having to stay home to take care of our special needs boys for the last dozen years, this is not good. He's got a week of PTO he can take, and he's going to be doing some side work with people who aren't sick...but still not good.

Hubby's boss told him to apply for unemployment...but I'm not sure that's the right move, and I'm not sure anyone even knows what the right move is yet, or if people like my husband will be covered by any of the policies being passed.

It would no hurt to apply as it takes time to get "into the system"

 

[xdan0920]

It’s obscene when a good portion of that time will be spent on their own work as well.
I’m shocked that their parents are supporting those fees. $30-$50 per day is what I was expecting.

Don't like it, don't hire them. Simple. Isn't that basically your motto?

 

[surfsupdon]

I wonder if upon reopening WDW, if some Resorts will stay shut till demand happens. Like when CBR was shut after 2001.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

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It would no hurt to apply as it takes time to get "into the system"

I just don't want to jump the gun and make the wrong move. This whole thing is surreal on so many levels.

 

[Lilofan]

My husband's boss just flew home to MA from FL before it got to a point that he would be unable to return. He IS laying people off. My husband isn't one of them, but his boss told him to take 2-3 weeks off because hubby is high risk due to heart issues. With me having to stay home to take care of our special needs boys for the last dozen years, this is not good. He's got a week of PTO he can take, and he's going to be doing some side work with people who aren't sick...but still not good.

Hubby's boss told him to apply for unemployment...but I'm not sure that's the right move, and I'm not sure anyone even knows what the right move is yet, or if people like my husband will be covered by any of the policies being passed.

I think some state agencies allow people to apply for unemployment benefits online. Might want to check it out and don't have to be in a crowded unemployment office.

 

[21stamps]

I don't think the older students' workload will be what it was while they were attending school. Our schools were very much blind-sided and my son's teachers told him there'd be work, but not much.

Adult pay rates for babysitting range from $10-$15 per hour...until you add special needs into the mix, then it jumps to $35. I've been looking to arrange after-school care for months so I can look for work in earnest. Whoever babysat my kids would basically just be here to make sure they don't burn the house down and could literally sit on their butts watching TV or play video games. Had a local friend whose high-school aged son was looking to make money, but he declined. Interviewed a college student (who was so perfect that I was crying tears of joy afterwards, and I even added helping her write her school papers because I was an English major), and she blew me off.

It sounds like their work is a lot, at least at the schools where these kids attend. They have video classes and several papers to write. Will do tests and submit them via email.

They’re private school kids, as is my son..we all know that we’re all still paying tuition during this mess. I just thought they’d be a little cheaper given the whole scenario. In my case (and many others) we’ve also prepaid for after care for the year- $30 per day. We have still not been informed if we will see any refund for the aftercare.


Hopefully someone else comes along with a better fee.

 

[ELG13]

I just saw a quote that I think sums up this whole pandemic situation perfectly (and gives me and my fellow alarmists a little nudge). "Everything we do before a pandemic seems alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate." Michael Leavitt
It's easy for those of us that saw this coming to say "I told you so". I know I want to say it to so many people that I now see freaking out, many are the ones hoarding TP. But I just want everyone to remember that what we do now will have MAJOR effects on those we love, and many people we may never meet. Even though there isn't a country wide quarantine yet, we should pretend there is, because there will be. Limit going out at much as possible. Here in the panhandle not much is closed yet but it should be soon. We will get through all of this but only if we work together.

 

[ELG13]

It’s obscene when a good portion of that time will be spent on their own work as well.
I’m shocked that their parents are supporting those fees. $30-$50 per day is what I was expecting.

30-50 a day is a daycare rate. Multiple children to meet the end required monetary amount. When you have one to one ratios then it's going to be more. I watch my friends daughter and she pays me daycare rates of $35 a day because I have my kids as well and I'm helping her out (all the daycares here are expensive and ridiculously fancy). If I was babysitting for a few days when I was younger it was hourly unless otherwise negotiated. It's expensive for sure. I quit my job after our 3rd was born because daycare/aftercare would have been more than our mortgage.

 

[The Mom]

I posted this elsewhere, but want input here as well-

Here’s the rates I’m getting from high school students for babysitting/help with school work from 8-5 or 9-6 on weekdays. (I would do whichever is more convenient for them)
$10 per hour
$12 per hour
$15 per hour

Am I wrong for being frustrated by this???
I understand that these are typical rates for babysitting, but in this scenario? And especially when the high school kids will be doing their own school work during that time as well????

My kid is going to be 10 years old next month. 4th grader.

Capitalism at work. Supply and demand. When my daughter lived in DC, responsible (she was already a college grad with a full time job) babysitters were at a premium, so she could ask - and get - $25/hr.

You're not just asking them to keep an eye on things - you are asking them to help with schoolwork, too. That was not usually part of my babysitting duties, nor anything I asked of the babysitters (few) that I hired to come to my home.

It's also possible those HS students had part time jobs at a business that is closed, or has cut staff, due to this, so they are trying to make up lost wages.

Should someone just volunteer to watch your child, or do it for a pittance, because of circumstances? It might be the moral thing to do, but again, they may be facing their breadwinner's loss of income so are not in a position to volunteer their time and labor.