Kevin_W
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I expect 2nd shot to take priority - as you say those have a limited window, I'm still curious as to going from 30,000 to 8,000 though as there were not 22,000 shots given the first week, let alone the first day.
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correcaminos
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I am confused on the numbers you are giving. This was from Ciny news yesterday https://www.wcpo.com/news/coronavir...ries-to-administer-doses-of-covid-19-vaccines
Forgive me though if I missed a step. I get nervous with certain dental work and some is happening today so I slept horribly last night.
Kevin_W
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Daily totals are from the ODH website: https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/vaccination-dashboard
The total numbers match the Cincy news report, so I don't think there is a discrepancy. I guess less than half of delivered doses in arms puts us in the top 10. Huh.
Good luck with the dental work - never terribly fun.
sullyinMT
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Plus, with the delayed/slow final distribution, it seems on paper that there is quite a bit of said reserve. With the exception of a few states, less than half of the allocations have been administered.
GoofGoof
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I think as time goes on the % not used drops. Right now 18M doses distributed but only 5M used so over 70% unused. Some portion of the unused shots is a reserve. Let’s say for arguments sake its 10M doses. If you keep the reserve mostly constant then the next 18M doses can go straight to people. So now it’s 36M distributed and 26M used. The unused shots drop to 28%. The reserve may need to grow a little still but once we fully ramp up deliveries hopefully it won’t be an issue and we won’t need to hold back as many shots.
HarperRose
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I'm one of them. Eyeing October, but not unless offerings come back and I'm vaccinated.
HarperRose
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I'm glad they were able to use the doses and not have them go to waste. After front line workers and seniors in senior living settings (nursing home, assisted living, etc) get their vaccinations, the order of who else gets them doesn't matter. We need to get people vaccinated and limiting eligibility has turned out to be chaos.
GoofGoof
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I still think they should do 65+ and people with medical conditions that make them high risk next. It shouldn’t slow anything down as those are really easy groups to confirm with either ID proving age or a prescription from a doctor authorizing it. After that I agree it should be first come first serve. The attempt to classify different groups of workers is a fail. It will bog everything down If they have to do targeted vaccinations at work sites as opposed to mass vaccination sites with waves of people going through.
correcaminos
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I was confused with the 8k and 30k numbers though. Sorry.
Dental work done. Not as bad as some things but not as great as others lol
GoofGoof
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On the vaccine front with nearly 5M vaccinations done in the US there have been 29 reported cases of anaphylaxis. That’s a rate of about 5.8 per million. More than a flu shot, but still very rare and none of those people suffered any permanent damage from the allergic reaction. If every American received the vaccine that would equate to less than 2,000 people having an allergic reaction. Very small number for 330M vaccinations. More than 2,000 people died from Covid yesterday. Definitely some strong evidence that the reward is far greater than the very small risks associated with the vaccine. Hopefully as we are getting into the millions vaccinated range now some of the people in the wait and see camp are coming around and seeing that the vaccine is indeed safe. If something severe and negative was going to happen you would think it would already have happened in the millions who are already done. Maybe some people still want to see the impact of the 2nd shot. Those started and by the end of January we should have millions with both shots.
www.yahoo.com
CDC: With nearly 5 million Americans vaccinated, just 29 have had confirmed allergic reactions
The rate of anaphylaxis in COVID-19 vaccine-takers does appear 10 times higher than with flu vaccines, but it is still exceedingly low.
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BrianLo
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Don’t think we can blame this on holiday reporting anymore. It really did just consistently worsen over the holidays.
GoofGoof
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If we believe what the experts were warning us about on the holiday travel and get togethers the cases won’t peak until a few weeks after NYE. I hope that’s not the case and this is the peak, but it’s not good most places.
Disney Experience
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A bit of "wayback" in regards to logistics of vaccine delivery:
In the Florida state "microplan" I see it quantifying the demand (Nursing Homes, medical, prisons), but not what is the maximum vaccination rate the proposed distribution end points can deliver. I would think that should have been in the plan. It could have been estimated long before EUA. It is like knowing ride capacity. If you are delivering fun through rides, ride capacity is one of those things you determine before the customers line up for the ride. If you are delivering shots, the same would apply.
'Solid plan' in place for Florida COVID vaccine distribution; first doses going to hospitals
"We're ready to deploy the vaccine when it comes," Emergency Management Director Jared Moskowitz said.
www.tallahassee.com
In the Florida state "microplan" I see it quantifying the demand (Nursing Homes, medical, prisons), but not what is the maximum vaccination rate the proposed distribution end points can deliver. I would think that should have been in the plan. It could have been estimated long before EUA. It is like knowing ride capacity. If you are delivering fun through rides, ride capacity is one of those things you determine before the customers line up for the ride. If you are delivering shots, the same would apply.
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Disney Experience
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They did have some info on their planning for maximum vaccination capabilities. I stand corrected:
Either they knew they did not have capacity for projected vaccine doses, or their plan to get that knowledge failed. (Section 6 was their plan)
End of year Pfizer capability was stated some time ago, and though they did not meet it, the state could not even administer it's reduced share of the vaccines. So they had an estimate from one manufacturer of the number of vaccines for USA this year, as well as an estimated manufacturing output for 2021. They could estimate Florida's share of the doses, and then know a goal for vaccination administration capacity. They then should be sure actual or at least estimated capacity could service the doses predicted. If not they should have been working on mitigation of the lack of capacity before EUA.
So now the question is, did they not get their targeted surveys back, and had nothing to determine vaccine administration capacity?
Either they knew they did not have capacity for projected vaccine doses, or their plan to get that knowledge failed. (Section 6 was their plan)
End of year Pfizer capability was stated some time ago, and though they did not meet it, the state could not even administer it's reduced share of the vaccines. So they had an estimate from one manufacturer of the number of vaccines for USA this year, as well as an estimated manufacturing output for 2021. They could estimate Florida's share of the doses, and then know a goal for vaccination administration capacity. They then should be sure actual or at least estimated capacity could service the doses predicted. If not they should have been working on mitigation of the lack of capacity before EUA.
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oceanbreeze77
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Okay SO, if something happens tonight/tmr, that would make it possible for someone else to become leader, then will that potentially speed vaccine things up a little??? I know its just two weeks, but that's a years time these days...
JoeCamel
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I don't think so, plenty in the pipeline right now just have to get it in arms
JoeCamel
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I think you have to start with "how many are needed", "how long does each take", "How many injections per hour can you do", then you can decide on how many stations for how many doses and what time frame you want it done. Six months is going to be tough and I don't expect assembly line injections until March at least.A bit of "wayback" in regards to logistics of vaccine delivery:
'Solid plan' in place for Florida COVID vaccine distribution; first doses going to hospitals
"We're ready to deploy the vaccine when it comes," Emergency Management Director Jared Moskowitz said.www.tallahassee.com
In the Florida state "microplan" I see it quantifying the demand (Nursing Homes, medical, prisons), but not what is the maximum vaccination rate the proposed distribution end points can deliver. I would think that should have been in the plan. It could have been estimated long before EUA. It is like knowing ride capacity. If you are delivering fun through rides, ride capacity is one of those things you determine before the customers line up for the ride. If you are delivering shots, the same would apply.
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