Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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DCBaker

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"With nearly 180,000 COVID-19 vaccine doses slated to head this way, Gov. Ron DeSantis acknowledged on Friday that the amount coming to Florida is less than what he initially anticipated.

Nevertheless, the governor expressed optimism as he explained the state’s plan to distribute the first round of vaccines to front-line workers at five hospitals across the state and to long-term care facility residents and staff."

"It was not clear whether the smaller-than-anticipated vaccine amount will prevent the state from being able to vaccinate all long-term care residents against COVID-19 by the end of the year, as DeSantis had said earlier this week. DeSantis’ office didn’t immediately comment.

“These next six to eight weeks, if we can get the nursing homes, first-line health care (workers) and then start getting it out to the broader senior population, man that is going to make such a big difference,” DeSantis told reporters during an appearance in Tampa.

DeSantis said he thought the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which signed an agreement with Pfizer Inc., would allocate vaccines based on states’ so-called at-risk populations. Instead, DeSantis said the federal government “basically did it on a population basis.”

"DeSantis said Thursday that a total of 179,400 Pfizer vaccine doses will be coming to Florida. Of that amount, 81,900 doses will be sent to CVS and Walgreens, and the Florida Department of Health to vaccinate seniors and staff at long term care facilities, which include nursing homes and assisted living facilities. The Department of Health plans to deploy teams to long-term care facilities in Broward and Pinellas counties, where facilities have had a combined total of more than 1,100 COVID-19 deaths.

The other 97,500 doses will be sent to Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, AdventHealth in Orlando, Tampa General Hospital, the Memorial Healthcare System in Broward County, and University of Florida Health Jacksonville to vaccinate frontline health workers.

Twice this week, DeSantis noted that the hospitals also will work to get vaccines to other nearby hospitals for their front-line workers.

”I know that Tampa General is working with folks in Southwest Florida, like Lee Memorial.” DeSantis said Friday, referring to the health system in Lee County.

Additionally, DeSantis has said hospitals will help in the state’s efforts to vaccinate the broader population once vaccines become more widely available.

Tampa General Hospital issued a statement Friday saying that after it vaccinates its workers and “if the vaccine supply received allows for it,” the hospital will supply nearby hospitals for front-line workers.

Florida was supposed to submit its final COVID 19 vaccination distribution plan to the federal government last week. The News Service of Florida has made repeated requests for the public record but has not received a response.

Tampa General Hospital made clear in its statement Friday that vaccines most likely won’t be made available to the general public until spring."


 

Parker in NYC

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Will the restaurants in NYC be able to survive on outdoors with heaters and/or pickup/delivery only?
I don't know. Maybe more folks should have followed the rules. To see the lack of masks now out on the streets, you'd think there was no pandemic. Plenty of tourists in the city since Thanksgiving have been lovely ambassadors for their hometowns.

And I'm not talking about you but I do love how the only time I hear from certain factions that they're passionate about people not losing their jobs is when it concerns measures to keep people from contracting a virus that could possibly kill them or possibly leave them with long lasting medical problems.
 

Figgy1

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I don't know. Maybe more folks should have followed the rules. To see the lack of masks now out on the streets, you'd think there was no pandemic. Plenty of tourists in the city since Thanksgiving have been lovely ambassadors for their hometowns.

And I'm not talking about you but I do love how the only time I hear from certain factions that they're passionate about people not losing their jobs is when it concerns measures to keep people from contracting a virus that could possibly kill them or possibly leave them with long lasting medical problems.
It's not just covid any more hospitals are filling up and running out of staff impacting all patients.
 

Parker in NYC

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It's not just covid any more hospitals are filling up and running out of staff impacting all patients.
The flu that everyone shouted to the rooftops since February can now pat themselves on the back -- flu patients are back in the hospital right alongside the covid patients. I guess we just need bigger hospitals? I mean, sickness and death are inevitable. We're all gonna die at some point.
 

DisneyDebRob

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Will the restaurants in NYC be able to survive on outdoors with heaters and/or pickup/delivery only?
This is the thing. Not meant for you but you bring up something that has always bothered me. I would say 95% of restaurants that won’t have indoor dining will offer take out. Just pretend they are open and if you wanted to go, order take out. Order from your favorite places as much as you would if they were open. Give them your business as you normally would and maybe throw in a extra day per week, or per month, whatever. Let’s keep these businesses in business. Just because we can’t go out and eat doesn’t mean they go under.
Just because people can’t go out and eat doesn’t mean we can’t give back and keep it up. I’ve said this before.. a friend of mine owns a deli and sandwiches are what keeps him in business. When he had to close, all our friends and neighbors made sure he would survive. He’s doing better then when he was allowed to be open so it can work. Everyone needs to stop complaining about going out to eat and give them the support in other ways and hopefully they will be ok.
 

oceanbreeze77

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Especially, since the FDA had an already scheduled announcement for tomorrow morning. Instead, now everyone is rushing around to get the paperwork done to save a few hours? And for what? A power trip? Also, the story is the threat, which will impact how the vaccine hesitant will view the process.
not going lie...it gives me pause. And I'm so ready to get vaccinated.
 

SamusAranX

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I don't know. Maybe more folks should have followed the rules. To see the lack of masks now out on the streets, you'd think there was no pandemic. Plenty of tourists in the city since Thanksgiving have been lovely ambassadors for their hometowns.

And I'm not talking about you but I do love how the only time I hear from certain factions that they're passionate about people not losing their jobs is when it concerns measures to keep people from contracting a virus that could possibly kill them or possibly leave them with long lasting medical problems.
No worries. I understand why they need to close. Just the results that suck.
 

mmascari

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Washington Post is reporting that Mark Meadows has told the FDA Chief to approve the Pfizer vaccine by the end of today or resign.


Doesn't matter if they approve it today or tomorrow, either way Hahn should resign.

There's no way he stays on the next administration either way. If he wants to save any reputation or help the FDA, and appearances are that he's been trying to shield the FDA from pressure, he should just resign.
 

GoofGoof

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Will the restaurants in NYC be able to survive on outdoors with heaters and/or pickup/delivery only?
At least some won't.
I think that’s the only answer at this point. Some will survive and some won’t. I also think that would have been the case if they didn‘t shut back down. Some would have still failed. There will be many restaurants and other small businesses in FL that fail during this despite the Governor removing all restrictions. Heck, that would have been the case even if we never had Covid. 25% of small businesses fail in the first year and 50% by year 5 and restaurants are among the most volatile businesses to own. Despite all that failure new restaurants open constantly. Even if places close now the locations will likely eventually reopen. It’s not like there won’t be restaurants in NYC a year or 5 years from now. That doesn’t necessarily help the current owner whose business goes bankrupt but it’s possible if the business is structured right to be shielded from most of the personal impact in bankruptcy.
 

JoeCamel

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Thank goodness the city is banning indoor dining again starting Monday. I'm waiting for more restrictions to return otherwise we'll be in deeper sludge.
The graphic they showed had household gatherings as the primary spread with healthcare settings secon dining was way down at 1.43% I think. Will closing dining drive more people to have get togethers in their homes?
 
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Parker in NYC

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The graphic they showed had household gatherings as the primary spread with healthcare settings second. Will closing dining drive more people to have get togethers in their homes?
I was hoping the numbers would come down like they did earlier in the year when the first restrictions were put in place. But who knows.

Many have said from the beginning that people should just "use their judgment" but it seems we have a great lack of good judgment.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

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I think that’s the only answer at this point. Some will survive and some won’t. I also think that would have been the case if they didn‘t shut back down. Some would have still failed. There will be many restaurants and other small businesses in FL that fail during this despite the Governor removing all restrictions. Heck, that would have been the case even if we never had Covid. 25% of small businesses fail in the first year and 50% by year 5 and restaurants are among the most volatile businesses to own. Despite all that failure new restaurants open constantly. Even if places close now the locations will likely eventually reopen. It’s not like there won’t be restaurants in NYC a year or 5 years from now. That doesn’t necessarily help the current owner whose business goes bankrupt but it’s possible if the business is structured right to be shielded from most of the personal impact in bankruptcy.
That’s a point many in the “But think of the economy!” are not seeing. Good business leaders will pivot and lead their business forward.

Look at Disney- Studios wise they are pivoting and doing well going forward. I’m sure if Disney allowed Bob W. and Josh to brainstorm and lead the parks division into the future they would be able to. But that’s not what we have.
 
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