Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[oceanbreeze77]

It will close their outdoor dining. I believe takeout is still ok. I don't recall if the order shuts down shopping or allows it to remain with its current limited capacity. Either way, it's not great for business to lose the dining aspect.

actually....Most Socal disney goers just go to buy stuff at the store. Then we eat off property for a third of what it would cost at DTD

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Hmmmmm.

FBI is urging retests for anyone who got coronavirus tests at N.J. lab

Officials have not said why the tests need to be redone.

www.nj.com

 

[DCBaker]

 

[danlb_2000]

That hasn't been my experience. We're still dealing with a very small portion of the population that is contracting the virus. Unfortunately it's still too many. But we have lots of people staying home (you can find many of them on this very board ) or canceling get-togethers to say nothing of teachers and kids either working and learning from home or wearing a mask all day at school.

I hope you are right that it's a small portion of the population not following the rules. Unfortunately it doesn't take many doing the wrong thing to really mess things up.

 

[SamusAranX]

I hope you are right that it's a small portion of the population not following the rules. Unfortunately it doesn't take many doing the wrong thing to really mess things up.

Can also be combo of indoor groups and workplaces that get lax, stores that must be open etc

 

[danlb_2000]

I agree in public for the most part people are following the rules. The problem is what's going on in people's homes. There is a reason why the majority of cases are coming from private gatherings. People are letting their guard down at home. Look no further then Thanksgiving and all those that traveled to get together with family. People need to be better at home. Here they have advised us to keep Christmas to your own household.

Yeah, a couple who my wife is friends with went to someone's house on Thanksgiving. Couple days later they found out someone there tested positive, and both of them have subsequently tested positive. Not sure how many others were infected at the same gathering.

 

[GoofGoof]

Yeah, a couple who my wife is friends with went to someone's house on Thanksgiving. Couple days later they found out someone there tested positive, and both of them have subsequently tested positive. Not sure how many others were infected at the same gathering.

It’s like Russian roulette....most people playing got the empty chamber, but some people who ignored the recommendations and chose to get together anyway for Thanksgiving are paying the price now. We are entering the time period where we may start to see the bump from that weekend. Generally takes a week or 2 to start popping and depending on how bad it is could extend a few weeks to a month further. Great present just in time for the holidays

 

[danlb_2000]

It’s like Russian roulette....most people playing got the empty chamber, but some people who ignored the recommendations and chose to get together anyway for Thanksgiving are paying the price now. We are entering the time period where we may start to see the bump from that weekend. Generally takes a week or 2 to start popping and depending on how bad it is could extend a few weeks to a month further. Great present just in time for the holidays

.. and then as soon as we come own off the Christmas spike it will be Super Bowl Parties, assuming the Super Bowl actually happens.

 

[JoeCamel]

Record highs on wall street and the scary numbers.
What kid of dystopian world are we existing in?

 

[GoofGoof]

Record highs on wall street and the scary numbers.
What kid of dystopian world are we existing in?

My 401K is doing just fine...I just have to survive until retirement age

 

[Jrb1979]

Yeah, a couple who my wife is friends with went to someone's house on Thanksgiving. Couple days later they found out someone there tested positive, and both of them have subsequently tested positive. Not sure how many others were infected at the same gathering.

We had the same happen here. A family had a gathering a couple of weeks ago that included a couple from Toronto, which is a hot spot in Ontario, who had Covid. Since then a few at the party got sick including two on ventilators.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Yeah, a couple who my wife is friends with went to someone's house on Thanksgiving. Couple days later they found out someone there tested positive, and both of them have subsequently tested positive. Not sure how many others were infected at the same gathering.

Just saw on the news that most hospitals and healthcare workers are looking at December 15th as the day they start seeing increases based on when positive tests and people needed to be admitted.

 

[hopemax]

I hope you are right that it's a small portion of the population not following the rules. Unfortunately it doesn't take many doing the wrong thing to really mess things up.

The breakdown in my head is ~20% resistance, ~20% can’t always (essential workers), ~30% compliant. Which leaves about ~30% in between, that floats to whatever side happens to be getting more attention at that moment. So if the message is stay home, more do. If the messaging and cases trails off, people get lax.

 

[Chi84]

The breakdown in my head is ~20% resistance, ~20% can’t always (essential workers), ~30% compliant. Which leaves about ~30% in between, that floats to whatever side happens to be getting more attention at that moment. So if the message is stay home, more do. If the messaging and cases trails off, people get lax.

In your head?

 

[hopemax]

In your head?

I have no data, so I wanted to qualify that it is just speculation. What did you think I meant? I was trying to agree with the PP, that the die hard rule breakers aren’t as numerous as @danlb_2000 feared too.

 

[Chi84]

I have no data, so I wanted to qualify that it is just speculation. What did you think I meant? I was trying to agree with the PP, that the die hard rule breakers aren’t as numerous as @danlb_2000 feared too.

No, that’s as good a place as any, I guess. My experience also is that most people are complying, although the percentage I pulled out of my head would be higher.

 

[DisneyCane]

Record highs on wall street and the scary numbers.
What kid of dystopian world are we existing in?

I am perplexed about the wall street numbers. No matter what, companies can't possibly be worth more now than they were before anybody ever heard of COVID. Except, maybe Amazon.

I know the market is somewhat forward looking but the economy is highly unlikely to be stronger a year from now than it was in January. If we're lucky, maybe it gets there in mid 2022.

 

[GoofGoof]

I am perplexed about the wall street numbers. No matter what, companies can't possibly be worth more now than they were before anybody ever heard of COVID. Except, maybe Amazon.

I know the market is somewhat forward looking but the economy is highly unlikely to be stronger a year from now than it was in January. If we're lucky, maybe it gets there in mid 2022.

It does seem odd, but this isn’t a standard recession by any standard. I read an analyst report at some point and they estimated over 60% of the economy is either unharmed or slightly positively impacted by Covid. Of the 40% that is negatively impacted a large number of those companies are in the same boat as Disney where the they have very negative short term exposure but it has little impact on their long term prospects. There are a few industries deeply impacted but in some cases there‘s an expectation of government bailouts (airlines) or there are individual companies that are struggling but their loses are offset by gains from other companies doing better. I think there’s also a built in expectation of another round or 2 of stimulus money propping up the market.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I hope you are right that it's a small portion of the population not following the rules. Unfortunately it doesn't take many doing the wrong thing to really mess things up.

Can also be combo of indoor groups and workplaces that get lax, stores that must be open etc

It’s both...it’s everything. It’s deliberate defiance’s combined with momentary lapses combined with bad luck...

All of it.

So I’ll just go ahead and say it again: themeparks should not be open. Nope. Probably not till the late spring.

“But all this poor people!!!”??
Yep...big boy government needs to ride in and save the day (at least there’s a chance we get that)

.. and then as soon as we come own off the Christmas spike it will be Super Bowl Parties, assuming the Super Bowl actually happens.

Then they should vaccinate Pittsburgh first....

...too soon?

 

[hopemax]

No, that’s as good a place as any, I guess. My experience also is that most people are complying, although the percentage I pulled out of my head would be higher.

Well, even rule breakers have learned there are some stuff they have to do. So during the worst of things, even in my head you have the 30% who normally comply, 30% floaters who are complying because that’s the message at the moment, plus some of the other two groups doing what they are able. So the sum total compliance would be high.