We agree that the vast majority does not have it. We disagree on the fear mongering you brought up. You are correct to say we need to do something now because many are already being overwhelmed and we haven’t even gotten into thanksgiving figures yet.
The plan for Florida I will be ready for mine as well as my family.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis unveils Floridaâs COVID-19 vaccine plan; who will get it first?
Gov. Ron DeSantis unveiled who will get the vaccine first and when it could be more widely available on Wednesday evening.www.wftv.com
Sorry, I think I misunderstood what you were saying. You said the restrictions needed to be extended to protect the percent of people that aren’t vaccinated. I thought by that you meant “indefinitely” until the virus wasn’t a threat anymore because there will always be some percent of people that don’t get vaccinated. If what you are saying is that the extension is only until the vaccine is widely available to everyone then we are saying the same thing. I think we disagree on our estimate of when that will be. I’m hopeful it’s more spring/early summer then fall but who knows.
Dead is dead. A person is dying every minute in this country from Covid. In the time it took me to type this someone took their last breath. For that person the mortality rate didn’t matter. You may call that fear mongering or whatever you want and that’s fine, but it’s just a fact. The percent of people who are positive may be small, but a small percent of 330M people are spreading this virus pretty easily. The hundred thousand people in the hospital right now know this all too well. I am fine with you or anyone else who wants to downplay the severity, whatever gets you by, but it’s not some media created fear mongering that has no basis in reality.
Now that’s something we can agree on too...getting scary
. It’s actually around 40% nationwide although I suspect the large number of deaths in the NE in Mar/Apr skew it a little bit. In theory by mid-January we could take around 1/3 of deaths off the table just with the first phase of vaccinations. Pretty great news
I would agree, with the exception of the Tusker House breakfast. It’s a truly enjoyable meal.
Not just deaths. As you mention, phase 2 will bring about vaccination of higher risk GP. When that starts to have an effect (I hope the April/May timeline is correct), hospitalizations will spiral downward even if infections don’t necessarily follow course until younger and less risk people are able to be vaccinated.Now that’s something we can agree on too...getting scary
When you get to the second round of vaccinations we knock out people over 65 and people with conditions that make them more high risk for serious Covid complications. Not sure when that will be, but maybe around April. The death toll should drop way down once we get there. We just have to hang on a few more months.
Now that’s something we can agree on too...getting scary
When you get to the second round of vaccinations we knock out people over 65 and people with conditions that make them more high risk for serious Covid complications. Not sure when that will be, but maybe around April. The death toll should drop way down once we get there. We just have to hang on a few more months.
I guess where we disagree is whether reporting the facts is downplaying the virus. I don't think it is. It may come down to how much intelligence you accord to the general public. From what I can tell, this is a rarified site of older, wealthier, more conservative people a/k/a the people who can afford to take multiple Disney trips. I see very little respect for the intelligence or character of the general public, and maybe that's justified. But I don't agree with exaggeration, hyperbole or lying as a way to get people to do what you think they should. It didn't work well when the government "downplayed" the effectiveness of masks in order to manipulate people into not hoarding them.
The Pfizer data report is 100,000 pages long. Of course, there’s a shorter white paper.
And daily deaths.
I think it will take longer than when the lines for a vaccine go away, or appointments are widely available. BECAUSE uptake won’t be enough, at that point.
Everyone has their limit, and I seem to remember you (I think it was you - not entirely sure) reaching yours when one poster stated that out of a Disney theater filled with 100 COVID positive guests, 2 would die. That was quickly followed up by another poster who posited that 2 out of every 100 people who rode Slinky Dog Dash would die. (Maybe I should re-think post #46,712)
No one knows how long immunity lasts nor will we during the actual pandemic. Also, far more people have had COVID than been tested. False positives mean some people who think they had Covid actually did not. Antibody tests are imperfect. The process necessary to measure antibody levels for everyone would be exhaustive. There’s no harm in getting a vaccine for something you’ve had (this is like getting a booster). So, the recommendation will be that everyone get vaccinated.
If most general public are like the ones that go to amusement parks, then I my faith in high intelligence is very low. The fact most don't understand seat belt first and lap bar second on a roller coaster is shocking.I guess where we disagree is whether reporting the facts is downplaying the virus. I don't think it is. It may come down to how much intelligence you accord to the general public. From what I can tell, this is a rarified site of older, wealthier, more conservative people a/k/a the people who can afford to take multiple Disney trips. I see very little respect for the intelligence or character of the general public, and maybe that's justified. But I don't agree with exaggeration, hyperbole or lying as a way to get people to do what you think they should. It didn't work well when the government "downplayed" the effectiveness of masks in order to manipulate people into not hoarding them.
This is personal opinion, and I respect the opinions of those who disagree. I fear saying any more will provoke Sirwalterraleigh, and I don't want to be responsible for that.
And this is what I meant about “what people on message boards will say.” Sorry, public health policy doesn’t work that way. We aren’t going to wait for everyone, but we will wait until deep into 2021.
