Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Lilofan]

The arranged full time childcare for their elementary school aged kids-during school/aftercare hours, prior to the coronavirus?

I know of (2).

 

[disneygeek90]

Including Voices, Mariachi, etc. ???
Jammitors?

Jammitors were out and about today in front of the seas pavilion. I know nothing about the future though.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Jammitors were out and about today in front of the seas pavilion. I know nothing about the future though.

Umm yeah. Sergio and the Japan Drummers are out today too.

 

[21stamps]

My comment?

No, the one you quoted.

I know of (2).

Where/how did they arrange it in advance? I’m assuming you are talking about having grandparents who are retired, and able to watch kids every day for 13 hours per day?
There are no other facilities or camps available for elementary aged children during regular school time. The camps are all during holidays and breaks.. and daycare centers do not have full day programs for school aged kids.

 

[xdan0920]

Can the politics crew go back to the politics sub forum?

 

[Jwink]

Oh, I'm well aware, lol. But try telling an autistic kid "be more open to eating beets!", lol...just switching jelly brands can be an ordeal for us ("that doesn't look right, mom", "these gummy vitamins are harder than the other kind", "THAT pepperoni is too spicy - I won't eat it, I want the other kind"). I'm not even close to worried we'll starve or that food-shopping won't become more normal as time passes and panic subsides, but if I can avoid running out of the staples we eat week-to-week, I'm definitely going to make the effort to do so. It just blows my mind how clueless this guy is in general and how little thought he puts into the fact that he is quite literally a drain on other people's resources.

My son is autistic and SPD... we have like a week’s supply of nuggets and fries but that’s it

 

[Lilofan]

No, the one you quoted.





Where/how did they arrange it in advance? I’m assuming you are talking about having grandparents who are retired, and able to watch kids every day for 13 hours per day?
There are no other facilities or camps available for elementary aged children during regular school time. The camps are all during holidays and breaks.. and daycare centers do not have full day programs for school aged kids.

I'm out of this post. Not playing Sherlock Holmes.

 

[Shouldigo12]

My son is autistic and SPD... we have like a week’s supply of nuggets and fries but that’s it

You could try calling into your local grocery store and ask when they expect some more of whatever thing you need. They may not be able to hold any back for you, but I see no reason why they wouldn't help you get what you need by telling you delivery scheduled and when you should come in for the best chance of snagging it.

 

[Lilofan]

Umm yeah. Sergio and the Japan Drummers are out today too.

Show must go on, for the last day.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

My son is autistic and SPD... we have like a week’s supply of nuggets and fries but that’s it

UGH...I'm SO sorry...I know how trying it is to get our kiddos to eat anything that is out of the norm. I'm very hopeful the panic shoppers will be fully stocked up within the next few days (they only have so much space in their houses!) and things will start to return to normal at the supermarkets. I'm very thankful hubby tends to overdo shopping in general, and decided to make a mid-week trip (which we literally have never done before) for dried/canned stuff right before everything we rely on was sold out.

 

[21stamps]

I'm out of this post. Not playing Sherlock Holmes.

You made a very curious statement. One that would need further explanation to understand.
If you don’t want to provide it, that’s ok. I was just hoping to see what options were/are available that someone could have planned for.

 

[Shouldigo12]

That is actually hard because store staff is being bombarded with questions about toilet paper and canned food goods.

It depends on what it is, you're right. But if it's nuggets and fries she needs, they should be able to help with that. And even if it is canned goods they can still give an estimate of when the next shipment is coming in.

It never hurts to try. I don't get upset when people ask me questions, it only gets annoying if they cop an attitude about my answer.

 

[disneygeek90]

You could try calling into your local grocery store and ask when they expect some more of whatever thing you need. They may not be able to hold any back for you, but I see no reason why they wouldn't help you get what you need by telling you delivery scheduled and when you should come in for the best chance of snagging it.

Man, and people said the planning for ROTR boarding groups was too much!

 

[Lilofan]

I remember. It all started when a bean-counter was put in charge. Time to get the torches and pitchforks and head for his house, keeping a respectable 6ft distance from fellow rioters, of course. What is this, the middle ages?

When Iger wanted out and took everyone by surprise, no time to look for a replacement CEO. In steps Chapek and we know what he is capable of doing.

 

[DC0703]

I have a question. If Italy has a robust healthcare system to begin with, how was it overwhelmed by 21,000 cases, the vast majority of with weren't serious? It is a country of over 60 million people.

While 80% of patients with COVID-19 have milder disease, those that have serious disease develop acute interstitial pneumonia, which requires ICU treatment. A surge of hundred of patients needing ICU assistance will overwhelm any ICU in any country. Also note that COVID patients are not the only ones needing the ICU; at any given time, a fair share of beds are being utilized by people with other emergencies.

Now I will be very cold and pragmatic. Let's say that we let the virus run rampant and 1% of the work population dies from it. The average age of the people that have died from it is around 81. Realistically, how many years on average would these people have lived if not for COVID-19? Let's even say an average of 5 more years.

Though many of the people who have died have been elderly, many younger people with COVID have developed pneumonia and required hospitalization as well. In general, they are more likely to survive due to their age and more robust immune systems. That is, unless it turns into a situation like Italy, where the hospital resources are maxed out. Then people of all ages are more likely to die.

Also, there is a risk that those with milder cases could spread the disease to older people or those with compromised immune systems. Even if true that it were mostly people in their 70s and 80s, seeing the healthcare system in utter pandemonium will massively ratchet up the panic among the general public.

This is not living in a free society. This is not sacrifice for the greater good. There is going to be untold damage to the world economy that will lead to a diminished quality of life for society as a whole and likely many people in developing nations dying of starvation.

As I asked in my other post? What is the end game. You slow the spread now and then it starts spreading from a new "patient zero" in a few months. Then what? Shut it all down again?

The damage to the economy is inevitable, even if everything remained open. Once again, once it becomes more obvious that an infectious disease is moving through society, people will react and retreat and the economy will suffer. Disney and other businesses would not be closing down (and losing billions) unless they felt the alternative was likely to be worse. They are betting on the hope that by closing down for a few weeks and giving people less reasons to travel and leave the house, that this event will be of a shorter duration. By staying open and letting it run rampant through society, this could last much longer. Also, Disney doesn't want to take a chance of having their brand associated with "danger." That type of label could have longer lasting ripple effects on their business.

Regarding your second question, it is possible that the disease could slow now and surge again later. Since it has been said all along that the fall could bring another spike of the disease, I would hope businesses would be actively planning contingency plans so that they could remain functional in the event this happens. For example, Disney experimenting further with virtual queues or other solutions to keep people more spread.

 

[Andrew C]

The Right to Assembly as guaranteed by the Constitution means the government can't stop you from gathering because they don't like you or don't agree with you. If a government official broke up an Assembly for no good reason, the Supreme Court would be on your side.

But, like all rights, it is not unrestricted. Your Freedom of Speech rights doesn't allow you to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater causing a panic. The government will surely punish you for it and the Supreme Court would applaud.

The assembly of citizens can be curtailed if governments have sufficient reason, usually dealing with public safety. They can impose curfews. They can keep crowds off of public parks to protect the park. They can impose martial law. They can disburse assemblies that have become violent or destructive. They can quarantine infectious people.

And if the government did so for the proper reason of public safety... the Supreme Court would applaud.

Your ideas of sovereign citizenship and unfettered licentiousness is right wing nut case territory.

As long as my door isn’t welded shut...

 

[danitaytay]

A bit of an update from the DCP. Today, FA arrivals were able to select housing. Flamingo Crossing was also available to choose as a housing option in the rankings.

 

[DryerLintFan]

Ohio just shut down bars and restaurants effective tonight

 

[disneygeek90]

Ohio just shut down bars and restaurants effective tonight

What is Ohio’s deal? Aside from their seemingly random estimate that they have 100,00+ with the virus, they had 26 confirmed cases as of this morning.

 

[carolina_yankee]

That was going to be my question. Why wouldn’t they take the ship? It’s a British company, I would think Britain should be responsible.

They are self governing. The UK is responsible for defense and foreign affairs. All else, I believe, is determined by the BVI Parliament.

Several cruise companies have mismanaged this from the start. I'm glad Disney has shut down before any of this hits them. I have a cruise planned for Norway at the end of August which I've pretty much given up on. Even if all is a go, there will likely be a question of finances. Booked a DVC stay as an alternative at WDW. Growing less optimistic about that. I'm certain parks will be open and functioning by summer, and certainly August, but I worry about quality. Then again, we started our WDW love affair in 2003 when Adventureland opened at 10 am, CoP was seasonal, etc., and even MK open until 10 was a rarity. But at least there was Spectromagic . . .

Anyway, we'll renew our APs this May, June July (depending on length of closure!) so we'll have tickets and points for a room whenever we decide/are able to go, so food will be the only cost.