Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[GoofGoof]

I agree with you. People who are asking all to stay home, no options for childcare, are being entirely unrealistic. They aren’t thinking.

Imagine, rolling up to the ER and barely anyone is there to assist you.
Because, we’re telling all parents to stay home with their children.

There are going to be some single parents who have no other option and will stay home with their children instead of going to work. Their shifts will need to be covered by others not in that boat. It’s not all parents staying home though. Many families have 2 parents and even if both work, one can either work from home or one or both parents are seeing reduced or no hours anyway so they can cover the kids. If you are a teacher or a bartender or work at a daycare you are home anyway. I have a co-worker who is planning to split time with her husband. One watching the kids and the other working. She plans to mostly work at night from home after he is done with work. Our schedule allows it, I know that doesn’t work for everyone. In situations where a doctor, nurse, first responder or other essential employee also has kids they are going to need to rely on family, friends and neighbors. We are all in this together and people are going to need to help each other out.

 

[Nubs70]

Some things I learned after a friend shared a flip, political comment on FB about Italy.

Florida has 6000-7000 ICU beds.
There are 4.4 million people age 65 or older in Florida.

Really don’t like that math. 1% is 44,000. And there are still younger patients needing care, and non-coronavirus patients needing care. Not sure we even know the average time a COVID-19 patient that requires critical care, stays in critical care. I just had a family member on ventilation for 5 days, in ICU for a week, in hospital for 9 days. I don’t think they will be able to clear the beds fast enough.

Your observation is correct.

Italy is practicing triage medicine. Admitting personnel are choosing who will receive treatment and who will be left to their own devices.

 

[21stamps]

Y
YMCA is not the way to do it. Too large an audience, too difficult to control. We need multiple small groups.

An analogy is an ammo dump.

You could store munitions in one big pile but if one round goes off, the whole thing burns down. Store munitions in 10 smaller piles, if one burns down, 90% survive.

Who is going to do the smaller groups?

If it wasn’t for the YMCA offering such a thing then our hospitals in the area would be lacking much of their staff.
Solutions, real solutions, are the only thing that matters right now. Not many people can come up with realistic solutions, they just want to say things like “stay home” or “hire a stranger”.
Dealing with a crisis is not just saying things that sound good, right? It’s about dealing with the moment and finding solutions.

 

[21stamps]

There are going to be some single parents who have no other option and will stay home with their children instead of going to work. Their shifts will need to be covered by others not in that boat. It’s not all parents staying home though. Many families have 2 parents and even if both work, one can either work from home or one or both parents are seeing reduced or no hours anyway so they can cover the kids. If you are a teacher or a bartender or work at a daycare you are home anyway. I have a co-worker who is planning to split time with her husband. One watching the kids and the other working. She plans to mostly work at night from home after he is done with work. Our schedule allows it, I know that doesn’t work for everyone. In situations where a doctor, nurse, first responder or other essential employee also has kids they are going to need to rely on family, friends and neighbors. We are all in this together and people are going to need to help each other out.

It’s not just single parents. My sister and brother in law are both essential staff at a major hospital. Which one would you like to stay home?

Luckily, the hospitals themselves realize this issue and have worked out a solution by contracting with local childcare facilities and then the YMCA plan who luckily sees this issue as well.

If all areas are not doing this then that is a major problem.

 

[hopemax]

This is why China had to build hospitals in a couple days:

One of the things I told my friend. Surge capacity is required, China did it. Italy did not. Now I am wondering if a WDW hotel could be converted to hospital space. Not for the sickest, but the tier below. You can call me extremist but Florida is going to need extreme action.

 

[Patcheslee]

Millions and millions of people are not staying away from work... many companies have worked out childcare with local childcare facilities for school-aged kids.

For example, the YMCA is offering $30 per day per kid. All of these kids have parents who are working, exposed to other people, exposed to their kids, and then kids around other kids- exactly what the schools and sports were trying to prevent, but it’s impossible to prevent when people are still working.

Now, let’s look at another bad side effect from this. $30 per day sounds like a good deal for childcare, but there’s so many people, like me, who are already paying private school tuition, and have already paid for the school’s after care at $150 per week per kid as well.. No word on if we will be issued refunds. (For the aftercare, not tuition).

So now you have parents who are spending $300 per week per kid on childcare, completely unexpected. Many can afford this without devastating effects.. but there will be many families who will be severely negatively affected by it.
Lastly, add to it that this school hiatus is not a “break”. Kids are expected to do classes everyday and a ton of work— the parents need to somehow find time for that as well.

I still don’t understand how all of that is going to play out logistically and financially for millions of Americans.

The main elementary age child care program is based as the elementary schools here, since school is closed so has the childcare facility. Boys & Girls club is open but $20/day and limited to 100 children. All other childcare providers in this town equals around 500 kids newborn to age 13. There is a major lack of availability just in this town. Many people rely on grandparents, which could put them at a higher risk. Just myself alone my 11yo will have to stay home alone while I'm still required to work. Luckily I'm 4 blocks from home, can go home for lunch and breaks, and we do have a phone. I still don't know how the Elearning will be because it hasn't been done in this district yet but because of coronavirus it is now. So alot of it is still unknown except they have Chromebooks they brought home Friday and assignments will be on Google classroom. Due dates/time, work load, teacher communications, still all unknown. I've had college classes that required being online at certain times for lectures, others just submit assignments by X date, just don't know the expectations yet.

 

[GoofGoof]

It’s not just single parents. My sister and brother in law are both essential staff at a major hospital. Which one would you like to stay home?

Work shifts? There are going to be less employees available overall, but it’s not like everyone is in that boat. It’s just like covering for a major snowstorm...only it lasts way longer.

 

[davis_unoxx]

Disney better rehire all the live music talent they’re firing in Epcot rn after the parks reopen!

 

[Nubs70]

Who is going to do the smaller groups?

If it wasn’t for the YMCA offering such a thing then our hospitals in the area would be lacking much of their staff.
Solutions, real solutions, are the only thing that matters right now. Not many people can come up with realistic solutions, they just want to say things like “stay home” or “hire a stranger”.
Dealing with a crisis is not just saying things that sound good, right? It’s about dealing with the moment and finding solutions.

I suggest a neighborhood based system. In packs of no more than 7 kids.

 

[21stamps]

Work shifts? There are going to be less employees available overall, but it’s not like everyone is in that boat. It’s just like covering for a major snowstorm...only it lasts way longer.

That’s not how it’s going. I find it so odd that there’s such disconnect between what the hospitals are doing for their employees, and what the rest of the public thinks they should be doing.

 

[Shouldigo12]

Disney better rehire all the live music talent they’re firing in Epcot rn after the parks reopen!

I can't think of something that would be lower on the list of priorities right now. Not that those groups aren't nice, but there's bigger fish to fry in both the short term and long term.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

The main elementary age child care program is based as the elementary schools here, since school is closed so has the childcare facility. Boys & Girls club is open but $20/day and limited to 100 children. All other childcare providers in this town equals around 500 kids newborn to age 13. There is a major lack of availability just in this town. Many people rely on grandparents, which could put them at a higher risk. Just myself alone my 11yo will have to stay home alone while I'm still required to work. Luckily I'm 4 blocks from home, can go home for lunch and breaks, and we do have a phone. I still don't know how the Elearning will be because it hasn't been done in this district yet but because of coronavirus it is now. So alot of it is still unknown except they have Chromebooks they brought home Friday and assignments will be on Google classroom. Due dates/time, work load, teacher communications, still all unknown. I've had college classes that required being online at certain times for lectures, others just submit assignments by X date, just don't know the expectations yet.

Our schools haven't used online learning exclusively yet, either, but they have been using Google classroom for specific assignments. I know my oldest will have work to do over the two-week closure, but his teachers stated that "it wasn't that much", and I won't really know until they post some of the assignments and send me links. I'm crossing my fingers that it won't be a poop-show. So far, all assignments have been asynchronous.

I suggest a neighborhood based system. In packs of no more than 7 kids.

That's the general impression I got from the moms volunteering to help - very small groups so no parent is overwhelmed or heavily
outnumbered by kids.

ETA: Our town is so spread out that it would likely be grouped by neighborhood just for logistics. It can take nearly an hour to get from one end of town to the other.

 

[GoofGoof]

That’s not how it’s going. I find it so odd that there’s such disconnect between what the hospitals are doing for their employees, and what the rest of the public thinks they should be doing.

not how it’s going where you are, but they have the daycare still open so why would anything change? If they close daycares people will adapt.

 

[21stamps]

The main elementary age child care program is based as the elementary schools here, since school is closed so has the childcare facility. Boys & Girls club is open but $20/day and limited to 100 children. All other childcare providers in this town equals around 500 kids newborn to age 13. There is a major lack of availability just in this town. Many people rely on grandparents, which could put them at a higher risk. Just myself alone my 11yo will have to stay home alone while I'm still required to work. Luckily I'm 4 blocks from home, can go home for lunch and breaks, and we do have a phone. I still don't know how the Elearning will be because it hasn't been done in this district yet but because of coronavirus it is now. So alot of it is still unknown except they have Chromebooks they brought home Friday and assignments will be on Google classroom. Due dates/time, work load, teacher communications, still all unknown. I've had college classes that required being online at certain times for lectures, others just submit assignments by X date, just don't know the expectations yet.

You’re in Kentucky, right? A coworker told me that KY students have a set 5 consecutive hours where they need to be online. This sounds almost impossible. Have you heard anything about that?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

One of the things I told my friend. Surge capacity is required, China did it. Italy did not. Now I am wondering if a WDW hotel could be converted to hospital space. Not for the sickest, but the tier below. You can call me extremist but Florida is going to need extreme action.

Same with convention centers, both stand alone and connected to the hotels.

 

[21stamps]

not how it’s going where you are, but they have the daycare still open so why would anything change? If they close daycares people will adapt.

You’re saying that in your state there are absolutely no options for hospital employees?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Also if you're in the grocery store, now is not the time to argue with the cashier about your expired $0.25 coupon for pudding.

Keep the line moving.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Reading a few articles (opinion pieces) talking about how culturally things are going to change when we punch through this. A couple people feel that "the handshake" will become obsolete. Instead we may just nod in acknowledgement, or slightly bow as is done in other parts of the world.

A few also feel "Hollywood" will change in a big way. No secret that theater chains have been in decline for a few years now. Today most of us have home theaters, large TV's with surround sound and/or sound bars - Movie theaters will consolidate and many will close. Movies may go straight to streaming. Or at least have a much shorter window from release to streaming platforms. FWIW, I think there will always be a theater in close proximity because people do enjoy having a night out. But it's going to look a lot different.

I don't necessarily subscribe to those points of view. But they make valid points. - interesting times.

 

[GoofGoof]

Same with convention centers, both stand alone and connected to the hotels.

I did see the government was already looking into converting hotels to hospital space. Could help with the problem and may be a way to keep some income coming in for the hotel owners too.

 

[Lilofan]

I did see the government was already looking into converting hotels to hospital space. Could help with the problem and may be a way to keep some income coming in for the hotel owners too.

Sure helps that Trump signed the national emergency order so money can help the much needed states!