Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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More bad news for the parks as activist investors are targeting the company for possible forced breakup.


You need to. Stand. Down.

Your posts have become increasingly laughable as you posit the most ridiculous theories of Disney's imminent demise.

And this is the proof: Nothing in that investor's 'activist' recommendations including anything about selling off assets or merging.

He's suggesting Disney forego dividends to investors in order to double down on Disney+ and OTT streaming. This is exactly the policy of Iger and the BoD right now.

So why would you say that "investors are targeting the company for possible forced breakup" by referring to an investor who is not only *not* saying that, but going all in on Disney?

From this point on, your doom and gloom posts about Disney are absolutely meaningless, because, you obviously put no meaningful effort in them to be accurate. You wanna keep those posts up? I'll keep referring the forumites back to this blunder of yours.

[To others: this poster has been currently saying Disney is on the precipice of bankruptcy despite the evidence of Disney's own financial statements.]
 

Slpy3270

Well-Known Member
You need to. Stand. Down.

Your posts have become increasingly laughable as you posit the most ridiculous theories of Disney's imminent demise.

And this is the proof: Nothing in that investor's 'activist' recommendations including anything about selling off assets or merging.

He's suggesting Disney forego dividends to investors in order to double down on Disney+ and OTT streaming. This is exactly the policy of Iger and the BoD right now.

So why would you say that "investors are targeting the company for possible forced breakup" by referring to an investor who is not only *not* saying that, but going all in on Disney?

From this point on, your doom and gloom posts about Disney are absolutely meaningless, because, you obviously put no meaningful effort in them to be accurate. You wanna keep those posts up? I'll keep referring the forumites back to this blunder of yours.

[To others: this poster has been currently saying Disney is on the precipice of bankruptcy despite the evidence of Disney's own financial statements.]
My bad. I'm just going mad reading the forums here in the last few months. I might take a breather for some time.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
My bad. I'm just going mad reading the forums here in the last few months. I might take a breather for some time.
I was worried about you. You had good insights about the Fox merger, but then took a turn on Disney's financial health.

Feel better.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
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Why do you say "even those who die had pre existing conditions", what difference does it make, they are still dead. The only reason I can see to focus on that is that you and your loved ones are lucky enough not to have a pre-existing conditions.

I don't know how people can look at the number of deaths and not think this is a bad thing. Maybe people are getting numb to it. If I went back to December 2019 and told someone that next year 215,000 people in the US were going to die in a national disaster people would be appalled at that number.
It's not about becoming numb. It's just the reality of it. Any death is tragic. Pointing out that a large majority of the deaths can be attributed to a specific group does not mean I'm being cruel.

If you went back to December 2019 and said that over 600,000 people would die from Cancer this year, what would be the reaction? Probly nothing. People would shrug their shoulders. Why is that not considered a national disaster? Because it happens every year? People have been dying of cancer for years and we are nowhere near a cure or vaccine after billions and billions of dollars have been spent. Are people numb to it? Are they cruel? Are they horrible people for not demanding more restrictions on people, including those who don't have cancer? And at least with cancer, if a person dies from a car accident, they didn't label the cause of death as cancer even though the person already had cancer.

My baby sister was shot and killed years ago. She was murdered. I had a sister one day, and the next day I did not. Nobody should have to experience that, but I did. I don't b*tch about it. It happened and life goes on. I miss her EVERYDAY! I lost my mother in law (who I was very close with) to cancer last year. Her condition declined rapidly and within 5 days she was gone. I know ALL about death and loosing loved ones. I do not take death lightly. I know how it feels to loose those you love.

My mother has a serious heart condition which absolutely falls under pre existing condition and my father has had respiratory issues which required surgery about a month ago. Again, pre existing condition. Are we living in fear? Are we keeping my parents boarded up inside their house? No. My mother and I just took a trip to WDW and we both survived.
 

Jrb1979

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It's not about becoming numb. It's just the reality of it. Any death is tragic. Pointing out that a large majority of the deaths can be attributed to a specific group does not mean I'm being cruel.

If you went back to December 2019 and said that over 600,000 people would die from Cancer this year, what would be the reaction? Probly nothing. People would shrug their shoulders. Why is that not considered a national disaster? Because it happens every year? People have been dying of cancer for years and we are nowhere near a cure or vaccine after billions and billions of dollars have been spent. Are people numb to it? Are they cruel? Are they horrible people for not demanding more restrictions on people, including those who don't have cancer? And at least with cancer, if a person dies from a car accident, they didn't label the cause of death as cancer even though the person already had cancer.

My baby sister was shot and killed years ago. She was murdered. I had a sister one day, and the next day I did not. Nobody should have to experience that, but I did. I don't b*tch about it. It happened and life goes on. I miss her EVERYDAY! I lost my mother in law (who I was very close with) to cancer last year. Her condition declined rapidly and within 5 days she was gone. I know ALL about death and loosing loved ones. I do not take death lightly. I know how it feels to loose those you love.

My mother has a serious heart condition which absolutely falls under pre existing condition and my father has had respiratory issues which required surgery about a month ago. Again, pre existing condition. Are we living in fear? Are we keeping my parents boarded up inside their house? No. My mother and I just took a trip to WDW and we both survived.
I am sorry your family had to go through all of that.

I will say I am sick and tired of the "living with fear" crap. Yes I wear a mask and keep my distance from people but I am living my life like I was before this. I spent my summer at my trailer, have been going to out to eat and visiting family. I don't call that living in fear. I call that living with Covid.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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I will say I am sick and tired of the "living with fear" crap. Yes I wear a mask and keep my distance from people but I am living my life like I was before this. I spent my summer at my trailer, have been going to out to eat and visiting family. I don't call that living in fear. I call that living with Covid.
Yes this!

Nobody is locked down, we can do anything we want. I don’t get the people complaining.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Yes this!

Nobody is locked down, we can do anything we want. I don’t get the people complaining.
I do understand people complaining, although I don't believe in raising it to an art form.

We're not locked down, but there are a lot of us (especially in the vulnerable age group) who are voluntarily abstaining from or curtailing normal activities and gatherings because of COVID. My husband and I are the only relatives around for his 90-year-old mother, so we don't just throw on a mask and go about our normal activities. We're more careful that that - I wouldn't call it fear.

The planes are still flying and WDW is open, but we weren't able to go in May and canceled our October trip because the CDC is still advising people to be cautious about flying and I can't see wearing a mask at WDW and paying full price for a partial experience. We also canceled a trip to see our baby grandson because we didn't want to take the chance of seeing him after being around so many people at two airports and so close to people on a plane. If you take a look at the number of people not flying these days, you will see that I'm not the only one who feels that way.

As @JFP mentioned, schools and churches are not fully open, and we do not enjoy going to restaurants with the current restrictions in place. Who wants to pull up a mask every time a server approaches?

You're right about not being locked down, but COVID and its attendant restrictions are making life much, much less enjoyable for a whole lot of people. People who are taking the position that everything is fine under the current restrictions have their head in the sand.

Once more, with some exceptions such as WDW being closed in May, the choices we made are our own, but it's hurtful to hear people say things like "we can do anything we want" because "nothing is locked down."
 

Parker in NYC

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Schools and churches are a couple of examples. Virtual learning and services don't equal opened. I'm not saying that they should / should not be, but it's a stretch to say "we can do anything we want. I don't get the people complaining."

Ok, but people aren't locked down. You're talking about physical spaces.
 

JFP

Member
Ok, but people aren't locked down. You're talking about physical spaces.
Again, it’s a stretch to say that we can do anything we want. My wife can’t work because schools are closed and she has to school at home. There are businesses in NC that the governor still hasn’t allowed to open. Of course, we’re not “locked down”, but keeping these “physical spaces” closed keeps plenty of people from being able to live while doing “anything we want”.
 

Parker in NYC

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Again, it’s a stretch to say that we can do anything we want. My wife can’t work because schools are closed and she has to school at home. There are businesses in NC that the governor still hasn’t allowed to open. Of course, we’re not “locked down”, but keeping these “physical spaces” closed keeps plenty of people from being able to live while doing “anything we want”.
I'm sorry to hear that but I think the meaning was more along the lines of the fact that no one is being trapped in their homes against their will. It's alarmist to say "we're all locked down" when we aren't. In this context, that's how I read it.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Schools and churches are a couple of examples. Virtual learning and services don't equal opened. I'm not saying that they should / should not be, but it's a stretch to say "we can do anything we want. I don't get the people complaining."
Those are places not open, that’s not the same as being locked down. Someone who wants to go to school or church can still freely leave their house, go shopping, eat out, visit a theme park, go to a bar if you live in FL.

I don’t have a problem with complaining about the situation. It’s pretty frustrating for everyone. It’s not true that we can do anything we want, but there’s not a whole lot that we can’t do these days, you hit a few with going to the bar being another big one in a lot of places.
 
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