Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[lazyboy97o]

It also puts yet one more burden on the park operators. Do I have to provide a driver's license or utility bill in order to buy a ticket or enter the park?

How is it one more burden? Disney already offered deals for people living in certain places that required proof of residency.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I said this the other day...I don’t think anyone is “pro-lockdown”

Exactly. And nobody is locked down. Some states are more strict than others but they are not locked down.

It also puts yet one more burden on the park operators. Do I have to provide a driver's license or utility bill in order to buy a ticket or enter the park?

That would be next to impossible to enforce wouldn’t it? You’d have to do a search to see if their address was within the radius. Even requiring California residency seems tough, do you have to show a state ID for your 5 year old to enter Disneyland?

 

[Miss Bella]

You say that like you're proud. Isolating yourself would have been the very responsible thing to do.

You do realize I'm a front line worker as are millions of other people across the globe. Talk to my boss for me tell her I want a year off with pay,

 

[Miss Bella]

Then those people shouldn’t be out and about/around you.

Guess people missed step 1, huh?

How do propose healthcare workers and front line workers isolate every time they come in contact with a covid postive person. This also applies to other workers that come in contact with hundreds of people on a daily basis.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

How do propose healthcare workers and front line workers isolate every time they come in contact with a covid postive person. This also applies to other workers that come in contact with hundreds of people on a daily basis.

Health care workers are understood...i
Missed that...I thought you were talking about more “casual” contact.

My bad

 

[Miss Bella]

Health care workers are understood...i
Missed that...I thought you were talking about more “casual” contact.

My bad

Actually at the beginning of all this they would make us isolate for two weeks if we had an exposer. As things progressed that wasn't feasible. Even now with just a handful of Covid patients in the hospital we don't have the staff for that.

I was laid off from my job after 9\11 and enrolled in nursing school. Just a thought for anyone laid off and looking for a second career. You will always have job security.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Actually at the beginning of all this they would make us isolate for two weeks if we had an exposer. As things progressed that wasn't feasible. Even now with just a handful of Covid patients in the hospital we don't have the staff for that.

I was laid off from my job after 9\11 and enrolled in nursing school. Just a thought for anyone laid off and looking for a second career. You will always have job security.

Magic kingdom attraction lead, huh? (Kidding)

I would assume that the precautions/PPE situation is much better in medical facilities than the scramble in early spring? At least I hope.

One problem with job retraining since 2001...now that the benevolent government (W) allows fully guaranteed college debt...the fees are astronomical and the borrowers are ruined if it goes badly.

Many things are worse.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Yes but by the time somebody who is infected by a chain of asymptomatic carriers tests positive, the trail is lost because the early cases in the chain won't test positive anymore. If you go completely by contacts and contacts of contacts you'll have half the population isolating from one trace.

That's the issue. All of the asymptomatic carriers/spreaders. If almost everybody got symptoms then you could definitely make a huge dent with contact tracing because almost everybody infected would get tested and relatively soon after becoming infected.

I'm not saying it would have no effect but it isn't the magic bullet that it is made out to be. I'm certainly not against contact tracing and it is being done. There are still issues in Florida with people not answering the contact trace calls. There's a pop-up on the state COVID site asking people to save the contact trace phone numbers so they will answer.

I agree. It's not 100% effective but it will work in many cases and we shouldn't let the lack of 100% effectiveness stop us from achieving SO.E effectiveness. Otherwise, we wouldn't do anything about it at all.

And since cobtact traci g and isolation won't end this on their own, we need masks and social distancing. All of these measures combined will end this sooner - IF enough people participate.

 

[Miss Bella]

Magic kingdom attraction lead, huh? (Kidding)

I would assume that the precautions/PPE situation is much better in medical facilities than the scramble in early spring? At least I hope.

One problem with job retraining since 2001...now that the benevolent government (W) allows fully guaranteed college debt...the fees are astronomical and the borrowers are ruined if it goes badly.

Many things are worse.

No, airline job.
There's a pretty high percentage of nurses that are on their second career. It seems to happen with every recession. I work with a couple of ex financial analysts from NYC. Both victims of 2008.

I agree with you on the college loans and I feel bad for my kids.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, airline job.
There's a pretty high percentage of nurses that are on their second career. It seems to happen with every recession. I work with a couple of ex financial analysts from NYC. Both victims of 2008.

I agree with you on the college loans and I feel bad for my kids.

Mine too...

I’m saying that if you work for DISNEY...The money for second career just may not ever be there.

 

[MisterPenguin]

One caveat... teasing out comorbidities is always done for any disease, because it helps researchers understand who is most vulnerable. But this is the first time I've seen armchair epidemiologists weaponize that information for political purposes.

You must have missed that when a stat came out that only 6% of COVID cases had no comorbidity listed that some people were using that to claim that the deaths from COVID were only 6% of the total being reported.

 

[GoofGoof]

I agree. It's not 100% effective but it will work in many cases and we shouldn't let the lack of 100% effectiveness stop us from achieving SO.E effectiveness. Otherwise, we wouldn't do anything about it at all.

And since cobtact traci g and isolation won't end this on their own, we need masks and social distancing. All of these measures combined will end this sooner - IF enough people participate.

Great point. None of the precautions we talk about are 100% effective or anywhere close to that. A mask helps reduce some risk of exposure, physical distancing reduces some exposure, avoiding large groups reduces some exposure. At the end of the day a combination of precautions may not guarantee 100% effectiveness but it’s a heck of a lot better than doing nothing. Same goes for testing and tracing. It won’t always be possible to catch and isolate everyone in time but the more you catch the less the virus spreads. It’s all additive. Instead people who resist restrictions jump immediately to if the precaution doesn’t result in the virus being gone completely it doesn’t work. Even the governor of FL used that logic in his press release on removing state restrictions. He said because Miami limited restaurants and still had cases this summer that‘s evidence that the restaurant limitations didn’t work. What he’s ignoring is that without those restrictions there may have been even more cases.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

You do realize I'm a front line worker as are millions of other people across the globe. Talk to my boss for me tell her I want a year off with pay,

I thought you meant casually as well.

 

[BrianLo]

It also puts yet one more burden on the park operators. Do I have to provide a driver's license or utility bill in order to buy a ticket or enter the park?

They've always been quite diligent about asking for my passport for the Canadian Residency Ticket offers. The ticketing gates easily have the ability to implement this for everyone, especially with reduced capacity.

 

[sullyinMT]

Actually at the beginning of all this they would make us isolate for two weeks if we had an exposer. As things progressed that wasn't feasible. Even now with just a handful of Covid patients in the hospital we don't have the staff for that.

I was laid off from my job after 9\11 and enrolled in nursing school. Just a thought for anyone laid off and looking for a second career. You will always have job security.

“Always” is relative. With the stay on elective surgery and the cycle calendar, my partners and I face an interesting 5 months to recertification for our licensure.
Plenty of middle-upper management faces a grim reality in healthcare, and CAH’s will likely be padlocked once the dust clears. This has hit the healthcare industry hard unless you’re in ICU, telemetry, or internist specialties.

Even our ortho/spine service, the “money maker,” faces a long recovery.

 

[sullyinMT]

[...]I would assume that the precautions/PPE situation is much better in medical facilities than the scramble in early spring? At least I hope. [...]

Speaking anecdotally, we’re at ~120 days current rate, state and local resources. I hope bigger states are better; they should be.

*edited for weird double quote*

 

[Miss Bella]

“Always” is relative. With the stay on elective surgery and the cycle calendar, my partners and I face an interesting 5 months to recertification for our licensure.
Plenty of middle-upper management faces a grim reality in healthcare, and CAH’s will likely be padlocked once the dust clears. This has hit the healthcare industry hard unless you’re in ICU, telemetry, or internist specialties.

Even our ortho/spine service, the “money maker,” faces a long recovery.

That’s unfortunate, but our ortho floor is overflowing. It’s like our Covid floor was two months ago. Keep in mind I live in a state where 20% of the population is retirement age.

 

[Lilofan]

Mine too...

I’m saying that if you work for DISNEY...The money for second career just may not ever be there.

But they got their free passes for them and their family to WDW!

 

[sullyinMT]

That’s unfortunate, but our ortho floor is overflowing. It’s like our Covid floor was two months ago. Keep in mind I live in a state where 20% of the population is retirement age.

Or will be fine, it’s clearing the backlog that will be the problem.

 

[Heppenheimer]

That’s unfortunate, but our ortho floor is overflowing. It’s like our Covid floor was two months ago. Keep in mind I live in a state where 20% of the population is retirement age.

Our orthopedists have also been extremely busy since our ORs opened back up for elective procedures. A huge backlog accumulated during the spring shut-down.