Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[lazyboy97o]

Compared to the "side effects may include..." you hear in TV commercials for meds, it's nothing, lol.

You don’t risk bleeding to prevent mild, occasional arthritis pain?

My favorites in such ads are "Don't take 'xxxx' if you are allergic to 'xxxx' " Gee, thanks for that brilliant piece of advice counselor.

I like “Tell your doctor if you’re allergic to ‘xxxx’”. Shouldn’t my doctor know or have some clue as to what constitutes glidocubine-malbuterol?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Is it one that stops at port canaveral? It includes a WDW ticket and three fast passes....Im not sure about the fast passes anymore.

No...it’s nyc to San Juan...no stops in Florida.

Magic

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Those are the side effects for every medication and vaccine ever taken. Haha

Are those medications the ones that are being “fast tracked” and pushed by people in front of cameras and microphones everyday with zero medical training???


HAHAHAHA

 

[Stitch826]

If they want to continue to keep some businesses closed, they should really have an obligation to provide the business owners with additional relief at this point. Otherwise, I am not sure what they expect from them. The alternative would be to allow them to slowly reopen and crack down on the rule breakers. You figure they could make this happen 6 months in...

This is how I’ve felt regarding the pandemic and mandatory business shutdowns all along. If the government is not allowing a business to operate (due to no fault of the business) the government should provide at the minimum enough money to cover fixed expenses such as rent and utilities during that time. As well as not collecting property taxes during that period.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

My favorites in such ads are "Don't take 'xxxx' if you are allergic to 'xxxx' " Gee, thanks for that brilliant piece of advice counselor.

I like the IBS medication ad that lists diarrhea as a side effect. How do they know it just didn't work?

 

[Stitch826]

One thing I’ve read multiple times here is that the country should have done a mandatory two-week stay-at-home order in the beginning and that this pandemic would be over. If that’s the case, why not just do that now? Shut down the entire country for two weeks and require all businesses except essential ones (hospitals, urgent care facilities, nursing homes, grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, transportation companies, etc.) to close. Require everyone to remain home unless traveling to work at one of these businesses or to the grocery store or seeking medical care. If doing that would end this thing, why wouldn’t it be done? Utilize the National Guard to distribute groceries and supplies to those who can’t otherwise get them during that time.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

One thing I’ve read multiple times here is that the country should have done a mandatory two-week stay-at-home order in the beginning and that this pandemic would be over. If that’s the case, why not just do that now? Shut down the entire country for two weeks and require all businesses except essential ones (hospitals, urgent care facilities, nursing homes, grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, transportation companies, etc.) to close. Require everyone to remain home unless traveling to work at one of these businesses or to the grocery store or seeking medical care. If doing that would end this thing, why wouldn’t it be done? Utilize the National Guard to distribute groceries and supplies to those who can’t otherwise get them during that time.

2 reasons:
1. Its been wayyyy to politicized
2.there are wayyyy too many conspiracy theories around the virus

.At this stage, this late in the game, we will never get compliance. We can't even get everyone to wear a mask

 

[GimpYancIent]

One thing I’ve read multiple times here is that the country should have done a mandatory two-week stay-at-home order in the beginning and that this pandemic would be over. If that’s the case, why not just do that now? Shut down the entire country for two weeks and require all businesses except essential ones (hospitals, urgent care facilities, nursing homes, grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, transportation companies, etc.) to close. Require everyone to remain home unless traveling to work at one of these businesses or to the grocery store or seeking medical care. If doing that would end this thing, why wouldn’t it be done? Utilize the National Guard to distribute groceries and supplies to those who can’t otherwise get them during that time.

I just read a story written by Gina Kolata a journalist with The New York Times and featured in the StarTribune. I will not quote the whole story only the first statement "According to historians, pandemics typically have two types of endings: the medical, which occurs when the incidence and death rates plummet, and the social, when the epidemic of fear about the disease wanes." She obviously believes in the bottom line up front. Right now the statistics support the observation that the death rates are down, not to the point where one can use the term plummet but definitely down from where they were. The publics fear of the disease has in fact waned. COVID19 will join all the other contagious and potentially deadly diseases that existed and still do. Humans are adapting and dealing with it it is a terrible idea to repeat the mistakes of the past i.e. a shutdown.

 

[sullyinMT]

One thing I’ve read multiple times here is that the country should have done a mandatory two-week stay-at-home order in the beginning and that this pandemic would be over. If that’s the case, why not just do that now? Shut down the entire country for two weeks and require all businesses except essential ones (hospitals, urgent care facilities, nursing homes, grocery stores, pharmacies, gas stations, transportation companies, etc.) to close. Require everyone to remain home unless traveling to work at one of these businesses or to the grocery store or seeking medical care. If doing that would end this thing, why wouldn’t it be done? Utilize the National Guard to distribute groceries and supplies to those who can’t otherwise get them during that time.

I just read a story written by Gina Kolata a journalist with The New York Times and featured in the StarTribune. I will not quote the whole story only the first statement "According to historians, pandemics typically have two types of endings: the medical, which occurs when the incidence and death rates plummet, and the social, when the epidemic of fear about the disease wanes." She obviously believes in the bottom line up front. Right now the statistics support the observation that the death rates are down, not to the point where one can use the term plummet but definitely down from where they were. The publics fear of the disease has in fact waned. COVID19 will join all the other contagious and potentially deadly diseases that existed and still do. Humans are adapting and dealing with it it is a terrible idea to repeat the mistakes of the past i.e. a shutdown.

I wouldn’t call a real, broad shutdown a mistake, had we actually had one that lasted a couple “life cycles” of the virus (4-6 weeks, imo). What we had in this country was a haphazard cobbling of policies, some enacted too late and some enacted just to say something was done when maybe it didn’t need to be because cases hadn’t reached a particular locale.
I’ve mentioned them (shutdowns) in retrospect and reflection, but we have learned to adapt and current hospitalizations, spread, and testing capability don’t warrant a new round of shutdowns. They were intended to give whatever jurisdictions (municipalities, counties, states, federal) a brief chance to play catch up and create a game plan while the citizenry gave our elected officials and their consultants a “pause button” of sorts.
We (national “we”) never had a chance because we hit the slow motion button instead of pause. Phase one of Montana’s reopening included casinos and tattoo parlors, for Pete’s sake. Some places nailed it, and I’d include the Orlando theme parks that discussion, generally. There are instances here and there of poor behavior, but they’re dealt with effectively and unequivocally. They paused, created a plan, and are carrying out the plan. Airlines, and ride share companies also largely get my thumbs up. Wal Mart has even stepped up their game, at least locally. I’ve been back in an AMC, and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. We are learning, I just wonder if we’ve learned enough quickly enough to weather the traditional flu season.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is how I’ve felt regarding the pandemic and mandatory business shutdowns all along. If the government is not allowing a business to operate (due to no fault of the business) the government should provide at the minimum enough money to cover fixed expenses such as rent and utilities during that time. As well as not collecting property taxes during that period.

1. How was that gonna work...exactly?
2. Wall Street was buoyed by $7 trillion (with a T) of liquid in the last year and congress has given away a few of those with NO tracking...who says they haven’t been covered and then some?

 

[tussking]

While I am a newbie I joined to read about people's experiences with COVID and WALT DISNEY WORLD. I think the topic is COVID and WDW general discussion which would lead any intelligent human to believe I am about to read about COVID relating to WDW. Yet I just wasted my time reading about national parks, RVs, cruise lines, medicine side effects, and political BS. IMO that's just BOGUS and the mods should do a better job so we can stay on topic.

 

[Lilofan]

While I am a newbie I joined to read about people's experiences with COVID and WALT DISNEY WORLD. I think the topic is COVID and WDW general discussion which would lead any intelligent human to believe I am about to read about COVID relating to WDW. Yet I just wasted my time reading about national parks, RVs, cruise lines, medicine side effects, and political BS. IMO that's just BOGUS and the mods should do a better job so we can stay on topic.

If you are seeking a perfect world scenario, it's not in this lifetime. Have a magical day!

 

[DisneyDebRob]

While I am a newbie I joined to read about people's experiences with COVID and WALT DISNEY WORLD. I think the topic is COVID and WDW general discussion which would lead any intelligent human to believe I am about to read about COVID relating to WDW. Yet I just wasted my time reading about national parks, RVs, cruise lines, medicine side effects, and political BS. IMO that's just BOGUS and the mods should do a better job so we can stay on topic.

So you got a little extra information along the way. Nothing wrong with that.. posts can sway a little off topic and usually come right back after a few posts or a nudge from a mod. When you are in this far, over 38 thousand posts, I’m surprised there isn’t more off topic discussion. That says something for most keeping it on track.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

While I am a newbie I joined to read about people's experiences with COVID and WALT DISNEY WORLD. I think the topic is COVID and WDW general discussion which would lead any intelligent human to believe I am about to read about COVID relating to WDW. Yet I just wasted my time reading about national parks, RVs, cruise lines, medicine side effects, and political BS. IMO that's just BOGUS and the mods should do a better job so we can stay on topic.

I always love the “I wasted my time!!!” Rant on discussion boards...

But I think the better way to get what you want is to post the questions/points you are looking to discuss or get answers to...that always will recenter the tangents.

 

[SamusAranX]

While I am a newbie I joined to read about people's experiences with COVID and WALT DISNEY WORLD. I think the topic is COVID and WDW general discussion which would lead any intelligent human to believe I am about to read about COVID relating to WDW. Yet I just wasted my time reading about national parks, RVs, cruise lines, medicine side effects, and political BS. IMO that's just BOGUS and the mods should do a better job so we can stay on topic.

Don’t let the (virtual) door hit you on the way out

 

[sullyinMT]

While I am a newbie I joined to read about people's experiences with COVID and WALT DISNEY WORLD. I think the topic is COVID and WDW general discussion which would lead any intelligent human to believe I am about to read about COVID relating to WDW. Yet I just wasted my time reading about national parks, RVs, cruise lines, medicine side effects, and political BS. IMO that's just BOGUS and the mods should do a better job so we can stay on topic.

Not to flame you (and welcome!), as others have already replied.
Cruise conversation is absolutely relevant to TWDC as a whole. It’s as on topic as discussing DLP, DLR, HKDL, or Tokyo. What happens in one travel division or park can be important or at least a lesson to other parks.
As for side effects and the larger vaccine discussion, if you don’t think that successful vaccine rollout has any sort of effect on WDW, well ...
The discussion of travel within the US could be extrapolated for years as to how Americans will be spending their discretionary travel money. Those loans that are being taken out now on campers will affect families for 7-20 years in many cases. That's a lot of money not being spent on WDW, DLR, cruise, or other travel. It might be the most off topic tangent recently, but will still have affects on our travel patterns.
And our experience with this virus isn’t political, but it does affect when international travelers can return. That’s a massive amount of dollars to WDW.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Not to flame you (and welcome!), as others have already replied.
Cruise conversation is absolutely relevant to TWDC as a whole. It’s as on topic as discussing DLP, DLR, HKDL, or Tokyo. What happens in one travel division or park can be important or at least a lesson to other parks.
As for side effects and the larger vaccine discussion, if you don’t think that successful vaccine rollout has any sort of effect on WDW, well ...
The discussion of travel within the US could be extrapolated for years as to how Americans will be spending their discretionary travel money. Those loans that are being taken out now on campers will affect families for 7-20 years in many cases. That's a lot of money not being spent on WDW, DLR, cruise, or other travel. It might be the most off topic tangent recently, but will still have affects on our travel patterns.
And our experience with this virus isn’t political, but it does affect when international travelers can return. That’s a massive amount of dollars to WDW.

This is just anecdotal, but I live in a state that usually sees quite a bit of RV travel, and in the few summers thus far that I've lived here, this was by far the busiest year for RV traffic. One of my patients who owns an RV restoration business reports never being so busy. The majority of the license plates I see are from nearby New England and Mid-Atlantic states. I'm not sure how much overlap these RV drivers may have with Disney fans, but unless many of these people are looking forward to a stay at Fort Wilderness, it would appear that a large number of people in the Northeast with discretionary vacation budgets have made long-term investments in non-Disney leisure options.

And of course, the common thread here is COVID-19. This wouldn't be a very interesting discussion if we strictly limited it to Disney's COVID-related policies.

 

[Andrew C]

This is just anecdotal, but I live in a state that usually sees quite a bit of RV travel, and in the few summers thus far that I've lived here, this was by far the busiest year for RV traffic. One of my patients who owns an RV restoration business reports never being so busy. The majority of the license plates I see are from nearby New England and Mid-Atlantic states. I'm not sure how much overlap these RV drivers may have with Disney fans, but unless many of these people are looking forward to a stay at Fort Wilderness, it would appear that a large number of people in the Northeast with discretionary vacation budgets have made long-term investments in non-Disney leisure options.

And of course, the common thread here is COVID-19. This wouldn't be a very interesting discussion if we strictly limited it to Disney's COVID-related policies.

RV sales are through the roof, but I would expect a lot of lightly used, one year old RVs to be available next year.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

This is just anecdotal, but I live in a state that usually sees quite a bit of RV travel, and in the few summers thus far that I've lived here, this was by far the busiest year for RV traffic. One of my patients who owns an RV restoration business reports never being so busy. The majority of the license plates I see are from nearby New England and Mid-Atlantic states. I'm not sure how much overlap these RV drivers may have with Disney fans, but unless many of these people are looking forward to a stay at Fort Wilderness, it would appear that a large number of people in the Northeast with discretionary vacation budgets have made long-term investments in non-Disney leisure options.

And of course, the common thread here is COVID-19. This wouldn't be a very interesting discussion if we strictly limited it to Disney's COVID-related policies.

Coincidentally enough, my wife and I have been watching GAC's marathons of "Goin' RV" recently even though we have no intention of actually buying one ourselves. I guess I just like yelling at the screen when they pick what I've deemed to be the "wrong one."

 

[sullyinMT]

RV sales are through the roof, but I would expect a lot of lightly used, one year old RVs to be available next year.

I hope so. It's time for an upgrade! If that does happen, a lot of people will be really shocked at their "retained value." I expect a few to be underwater, and that might cause them to hang on for another season or two.