Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Miss Bella

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Makes sense. Hospitalizations in Texas continue to fall from its 11k peak.
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In Arizona less than 10% of patients hospitalized have Covid. It’s probably less than that now. I’ve mentioned the dropping numbers many times and barely got a response. If someone posts positivity going up in any city it will get ten likes. Then they try to claim their opinions are strictly based on science.
 

GimpYancIent

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In Arizona less than 10% of patients hospitalized have Covid. It’s probably less than that now. I’ve mentioned the dropping numbers many times and barely got a response. If someone posts positivity going up in any city it will get ten likes. Then they try to claim their opinions are strictly based on science.
keep those dropping numbers coming. You are correct in the assessment that some folks do not react in a positive manner to things getting better.
 

GoofGoof

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We are about 6 months in now. I would say that should be expected. At the moment, I’m happy the downward trend continues. Less cases, less hospitalizations, less deaths. We will see...Im hoping for the baseline to go well below May’s baseline.
I know I’m tired of all of this. Outside of some smaller one-offs like spikes at college campuses I still think the overall case load should continue to drop through Sept/Oct. In theory most people are doing less, schools are back and the summer travel season is over. I am hopeful that the reduction of overall activity helps drive cases even lower for now. All bets are off once we hit Thanksgiving and the Christmas season but we can cross that bridge when we get to it. Places re-openimg bars could be problematic too. We have to see how that’s handled...hopefully better than the first attempt.
 

GoofGoof

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keep those dropping numbers coming. You are correct in the assessment that some folks do not react in a positive manner to things getting better.
It’s all in the context it’s presented in. Nobody here wants cases or hospitalizations or deaths to go up. It’s always better if stats improve. I know where I’m hesitant to get too excited for positive news is when it’s presented in the context of “things are looking better, time to relax restrictions”. On the other thread there’s a guy who regularly posts stats about hospitalizations or cases dropping as a reason for Disney to relax restrictions, increase park capacity and even remove the mask requirement. Celebrating improvements is fine as long as it doesn’t lead to people getting complacent or over confident which can reverse whatever progress was made.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
One of the important metrics in the CDC reopening guidelines was to have a positivity rate below 5% for 14 days straight (on average I think?) before moving onto the next reopening step. Florida is getting close to that so I wouldn’t be surprised if something is on the table around letting up on a restriction or two. Now, there are other metrics as well. I just cannot remember the numbers off the top of my head.
 

GoofGoof

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One of the important metrics in the CDC reopening guidelines was to have a positivity rate below 5% for 14 days straight before moving onto the next reopening step. Florida is getting close to that so I wouldn’t be surprised if something is on the table around letting up on a restriction or two. Now, there are other metric as well. I just cannot remember the numbers off the top of my head.
They already announced bars are re-opened effective today. No need to wait for trends. I don’t think the 14 day rule has been followed since April/May moving into phase 1. Percent positive was below 5% 6 of the last 14 days.

 

Lilofan

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They already announced bars are re-opened effective today. No need to wait for trends. I don’t think the 14 day rule has been followed since April/May moving into phase 1. Percent positive was below 5% 6 of the last 14 days.

On CNN, the Miami-Dade mayor today advised he refused to follow the directive. Currently bars and nightclubs in Miami Dade county are still closed.
 

MisterPenguin

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You would think stories like this would be celebrated on this forum, but they are not. I wonder why that is?

Because I haven't heard about it to celebrate it until you post it with a nasty ideological snark?

We're posting daily the numbers. Not only when they go up, but when they go down. But sure, demonize us for not mentioning and celebrating what happens in one town with regard to a CV unit.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
They already announced bars are re-opened effective today. No need to wait for trends. I don’t think the 14 day rule has been followed since April/May moving into phase 1. Percent positive was below 5% 6 of the last 14 days.

Im not surprised by this move either. Maybe a week earlier than I would have imagined.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
On CNN, the Miami-Dade mayor today advised he refused to follow the directive. Currently bars and nightclubs in Miami Dade county are still closed.
Does a mayor have those types of emergency powers to override a directive from the state? Very interesting.
 

GoofGoof

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Im not surprised by this move either. Maybe a week earlier than I would have imagined.
I’m not surprised either. I just hope everyone involved (bar owners and patrons) can control themselves and do it the right way. Wear a mask except when seated, all staff wear masks, space tables 6 feet apart, no standing room or bar seating. It’s possible to get businesses open but people need to be willing to understand it’s not back to normal but the new (temporary) norm until we get out of this. Based on this summer I’m doubtful it goes completely smooth.
 

easyrowrdw

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You would think stories like this would be celebrated on this forum, but they are not. I wonder why that is?
I'm confused. Was this posted before? I must have missed it. It's great news. Hospitalizations are dropping where I live too. 👏
 

GoofGoof

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Does a mayor have those types of emergency powers to override a directive from the state? Very interesting.
Did bars and clubs ever open in Miami? I know they were behind the other areas.

To answer the question, yes they do. Philadelphia is under stricter requirements than where I live in PA. NYC kept indoor dining closed when rest of N.Y. state reopened.
 

GoofGoof

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I was more wondering if the state said that this order cannot be overruled. I guess it was just a simple rescind and not a new order.
Yeah, that could be a different matter. Like when the governor of Georgia banned local governments from requiring masks. I’m not sure how that works. I don’t think the governor of FL is doing that though. He seemed OK with Miami closing beaches and bars in the summer when others had them open. Probably not as worried since they aren’t his “people” from a political prospective.
 

easyrowrdw

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Does a mayor have those types of emergency powers to override a directive from the state? Very interesting.
Maybe? In Georgia the governor refused to allow municipalities to enact more stringent measures. In Texas, the governor allowed cities to go further...until he didn't...and then he did again. I imagine it depends on how the order is written.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Reading the article, it seems the state wants to just focus on the “bad actors” moving forward instead of punishing everyone. We will see how that works out.
 

GoofGoof

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Reading the article, it seems the state wants to just focus on the “bad actors” moving forward instead of punishing everyone. We will see how that works out.
I’m just concerned it’s history repeating itself. FL moved a little too quickly the first time they re-opened, why not wait for numbers to stabilize and go down some more? It could end up being fine.
 
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