Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Jwink

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I will NOT be getting the nov vaccine for obvious reasons we dont need to go into....but It will also be interesting to see what happens to people who already had it this past year in 2021. We still dont know all of the long term effects. Will the vaccine impact their "long haul" symptoms? Will it be ineffective for them? It is a very complex virus that has me asking millions of questions.

*Adding I'm VERY pro vaccine, the circumstances surrounding the November drop are....suspect.
I. Am. Legend. 😱😱😂😂
 

MisterPenguin

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Two good points. Large chain eateries have shut locations and the numbers are not small. A dead virus is not going to make a person sick but never has the Flu shot been 100% effective at preventing a person from getting the Flu, the stats are all over the place depending on the strain, a persons health etc, etc. That said, NO a dead virus can't get you sick.

It's true that a dead virus cannot infect you.

However, the shot of a dead virus, which is meant to activate a person's immune system can often trigger the immune responses that happens when there is an actual live virus including inflammation, soreness, weakness, fever.

People confuse that immuno-response as 'getting sick.' Only this form of 'getting sick' doesn't have a chance to land you in bed for two weeks or in the hospital with pneumonia or possibly kill you as would a real flu infection.

And, as mentioned, a flu shot isn't 100% effective and you can still get a flu later on.

But when people complain that the shot gave them the flu because they developed mild flu-like symptoms within days of the shot, they're wrong. They didn't get the flu. They have the signs that the shot is working.
 

Miss Bella

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I won‘t travel into a hot spot and I don’t eat in indoor restaurants. If that makes me afraid, then yes I am afraid. I still get takeout from restaurants and I still do plenty of things outside of my home that are both enjoyable and rewarding experiences so I’m not sure how it qualifies as hiding in the basement but whatever floats your boat. Are the people who say they won’t get the vaccine also afraid?
It was hyperbole. I didn’t realize it would trigger some people. Whatever the reasoning if a vaccine will get people out spending money and living a normal life than by all means they should get it. I don’t know if people that won’t get the vaccine are afraid of a vaccine or not you”d have to ask them. I have a feeling the people that are already traveling and doing things aren’t as concerned about it one way or the other.
 

Chomama

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A lot of people on social media including these boards say that won’t travel or eat out. There’s a certain percentage of people that are afraid.
I know many people who are doing as little as possible while still working and sending their kids to school (some are doing virtual by choice). I am sure some people are scared but I don’t experience MOST people that are living this way as afraid I also haven’t heard them describe themselves that way so I don’t think it is fair to ascribe meaning to their actions. Is it possible they genuinely believe they are making responsible choices, even if you don’t agree with them and are making different ones? It just isn’t so black and white as “those people are scared”
 

MisterPenguin

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Positivity going back up. Looks like FL wants another spike.

Although, with the number of tests going down, it could be that only people with symptoms or those who think they've been exposed are gettting tested, which would artificially raise the rate of positivity... which has always been the problem of that statistic in that it relies on self-selection and is not randomly administered to see what percentage of the population is infected.
 

DisneyCane

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Positivity going back up. Looks like FL wants another spike.

Although, with the number of tests going down, it could be that only people with symptoms or those who think they've been exposed are gettting tested, which would artificially raise the rate of positivity... which has always been the problem of that statistic in that it relies on self-selection and is not randomly administered to see what percentage of the population is infected.
I still don't understand where the covid tracking project gets their numbers from for positivity. For the last 7 days, the new case positivity (the only one that matters because it doesn't include re-tests of known positives) has averaged around 5.7%. Even the overall positivity is around 8.1% including the data dump day.
 

Jedijax719

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Positivity going back up. Looks like FL wants another spike.

Although, with the number of tests going down, it could be that only people with symptoms or those who think they've been exposed are gettting tested, which would artificially raise the rate of positivity... which has always been the problem of that statistic in that it relies on self-selection and is not randomly administered to see what percentage of the population is infected.
Welcome to the school year!!!
 

DKampy

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I still don't understand where the covid tracking project gets their numbers from for positivity. For the last 7 days, the new case positivity (the only one that matters because it doesn't include re-tests of known positives) has averaged around 5.7%. Even the overall positivity is around 8.1% including the data dump day.
Agreed... Florida are not matching...but my state(Wisconsin) always matches which what the state confirms...it makes no sense
 

Miss Bella

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I know many people who are doing as little as possible while still working and sending their kids to school (some are doing virtual by choice). I am sure some people are scared but I don’t experience MOST people that are living this way as afraid I also haven’t heard them describe themselves that way so I don’t think it is fair to ascribe meaning to their actions. Is it possible they genuinely believe they are making responsible choices, even if you don’t agree with them and are making different ones? It just isn’t so black and white as “those people are scared”
I said in my previous post there are a percentage of people that are afraid. I never said it was all.
 

Jenny72

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Roughly 2/3 of the country is concerned about getting the coronavirus (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/coronavirus-polls/). I don't think it helps to describe them as afraid, hiding in their basement, etc. If we want to get the country to a better place, it would be helpful to actually listen to other people and their concerns rather than trolling, labeling and shaming. This goes for all of us. It's exhausting.

We have to suffer with the pandemic, but we don't have to act like this. I don't know if we can turn things around but each of us can try in small ways, every day.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Haven't been able to upload the images (keep getting an error?), but here are the numbers -

New reported cases - 3,773.
Percent Positive - 5.99%.
Number of tests - 70,024.

New reported deaths - 61.

If the ability resumes for uploading files, I'll add the images from the data file.
Interesting with the error - I've seen a few images uploaded that are un-viewable. @wdwmagic, thought you might like a heads-up!
 

GoofGoof

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It was hyperbole. I didn’t realize it would trigger some people. Whatever the reasoning if a vaccine will get people out spending money and living a normal life than by all means they should get it. I don’t know if people that won’t get the vaccine are afraid of a vaccine or not you”d have to ask them. I have a feeling the people that are already traveling and doing things aren’t as concerned about it one way or the other.
I’m not sure what you mean by trigger some people. My response was nothing more than stating my own personal situation. You labeled some people as afraid because they won’t travel and eat out. I responded that I won’t travel to hot spots or eat indoors so if that means I’m afraid then I accept that. It doesn’t bother me at all if other people want to label me. For me personally I consider it more trying to do my part to stay healthy and slow the virus spread vs fear but I can’t speak for others doing similar things. I suppose some are hiding in their figurative basements afraid to do anything, but I have no way to quantify how many that applies to. I can only comment on my personal situation.
 

GimpYancIent

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COVID19 is a no joke illness that is effecting the entire globe with a range of infection from nothing or no symptoms to catastrophic and deadly. To the majority catching it does not mean a death sentence but to some it does. There is a lot of fear, anxiety and uncertainty. The facts and statistics vary depending on what authority is disseminating them. WOW! Is there a script writer or group of script writers out there taking notes. Right now I do not see it appropriate to field a movie based in the current situation but the raw material is there for a future block buster. To live through something with global impact, must admit, is a story that should be told.
 
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