Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[oceanbreeze77]

Ok, Karen.

As a nurse doesn't it concern you that people are being reckless with their behavior while they know they have the virus?

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Serious question where would you isolate if you tested positive at Disney (and told them) if you were relying on a flight to get you home?

I'm sure Disney has a "plan" of some sort for dealing with this exact situation.

 

[GoofGoof]

If you have a smart phone, you are being tracked. It's been that way for many years. Attaching a COVID tracker to that is a piece of cake, if they even had to do anything.

It’s not a tracker using GPS. It assigns you a unique identifier and uses your phone’s Bluetooth to compile a list of any device that comes within a certain distance of your device. There’s no push back of any information from your phone, just a list of unique identifiers stored on your device. When someone tests positive for Covid if they are participating then the department of health sends a message out to all participants with the positive person’s identifier and if it’s on your phone’s list you are notified to get tested.

 

[Flugell]

First I would not go...BUT if I did, I would do the responsible thing and get myself an airbnb or something.

That’s what I thought but wondered if vendors would be willing to rent to you.
Maybe charge an extra deep cleaning surcharge! Just speculating!!

 

[DisneyDebRob]

As a nurse doesn't it concern you that people are being reckless with their behavior while they know they have the virus?

I really don’t think any nurse or anyone in healthcare would agree with letting the woman be her own grown a** self. That’s just irresponsible on many levels.

 

[JoeCamel]

Serious question where would you isolate if you tested positive at Disney (and told them) if you were relying on a flight to get you home?

Cinderella suite!

 

[oceanbreeze77]

I really don’t think any nurse or anyone in healthcare would agree with letting the woman be her own grown a** self. That’s just irresponsible on many levels.

I agree with you. LUVMCO is a nurse...thats why I'm asking

 

[Ben_since_1971]

Ok, Karen.

Condescending much?

 

[October82]

And practically every institution responsible for making sure the data is collected and presented correctly is going to benefit greatly from the handouts. Would Harvard or Princeton bend over backwards for a $50 million grant? Absolutely. This is not about 1 pharmaceutical company benefitting. There is the equivalent of 10,000 grants that size in the stimulus package, and they are talking about more. Let that sink in for a minute. 10,000, $50 million handouts.

Once again, the basic problem is not knowing how science works. Before it was ignorance around the basic processes of research and training, now it is not understanding the funding model.

Universities do not profit off of research grants. University endowments are supported by philanthropy and long term investments, not by the research grants that university researchers receive. The majority of the money is spent paying the salaries of researchers, graduate students and postdocs. The rest is spent paying costs associated with the facilities needed to conduct research. Science is, in general, woefully underfunded.

As an aside, as someone who has worked on projects with comparable budgets to vaccine development, I've never heard of a research grant approaching anywhere near that level of spending. I'm guessing you're referring to something other than basic research grants, like those that a university would receive.

If there's an app being built for Apple and Android, you can guarantee there is good money in it for them too.

Although I'm not so cynical as to believe that everything a company does is motivated by profit, companies like Apple and Google develop these technologies as a way of enhancing their overall market position, or because these technologies have benefits to ancillary businesses. Once again, we don't need to embrace conspiracy theories about what motivates people if we actually understand what they're doing.

I don't mean to be rude, but I really hope the cynicism that your comments reflect isn't a part of the rest of your life. Yes, there are evil people in the world. No, that doesn't mean that everyone is evil and out for themselves.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

*claims to be one on a Disney message board

why would anyone make that up during such a dire time for nurses.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

why would anyone make that up during such a dire time for nurses.

You'd be amazed the stuff people pull online "just for kicks". Some of it is downright cruel.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

why would anyone make that up during such a dire time for nurses.

No clue. I’m not accusing. Many of the statements they make seem extremely surprising for a medical professional to make. But I know more about trains and stage lights than hospitals so I’m not one to talk!

 

[Miss Bella]

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Nope. Not a "Karen" at all. She doesn't have the right to make other people's health choices for them.

And you do?

 

[ImperfectPixie]

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And you do?

As noted above, there's a chance she could be charged criminally or sued for knowingly exposing others to COVID-19.

 

[Miss Bella]

As noted above, there's a chance she could be charged criminally or sued for knowingly exposing others to COVID-19.

Awesome.

 

[Miss Bella]

No clue. I’m not accusing. Many of the statements they make seem extremely surprising for a medical professional to make. But I know more about trains and stage lights than hospitals so I’m not one to talk!

You would be shocked at what medical professionals think.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

As noted above, there's a chance she could be charged criminally or sued for knowingly exposing others to COVID-19.

Florida arrested a couple for knowingly going to grocery shop etc. while infected. They got out with $1,000 bail.

Florida couple jailed for refusing to quarantine, police say

Two residents of the Florida Keys have been jailed.

www.google.com

 

[MisterPenguin]

Apologies if the U.K. is hijacking the thread. It’s because we’re not at WDW!,

It is indeed terribly annoying to see all this back and forth amongst yourselves while being polite about it! Now I know where Canada gets it from!!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Speaking of experts who got it wrong, Dr. Drew apologized for dismissing the seriousness of COVID...

Dr. Drew Pinsky Sorry For Coronavirus Comments After Mashup Video Circulates

Dr. Drew Pinsky has apologized for remarks he made in which he labeled the coronavirus outbreak "a press-induced panic." A mashup video has surfaced.

deadline.com

This is why you look at the data, peer reviewed research, and the consensus. And not a handful of doctors who tried something and they got good (or bad) results. Coincidences and non-causal correlations need to be ruled out by the scientific method. It's a methodology that is not going to get you the 100% correct answer immediately. It is self correcting and takes time.

 

[Hawg G]

Speaking of experts who got it wrong, Dr. Drew apologized for dismissing the seriousness of COVID...

Dr. Drew Pinsky Sorry For Coronavirus Comments After Mashup Video Circulates

Dr. Drew Pinsky has apologized for remarks he made in which he labeled the coronavirus outbreak "a press-induced panic." A mashup video has surfaced.

deadline.com

This is why you look at the data, peer reviewed research, and the consensus. And not a handful of doctors who tried something and they got good (or bad) results. Coincidences and non-causal correlations need to be ruled out by the scientific method. It's a methodology that is not going to get you the 100% correct answer immediately. It is self correcting and takes time.

I’m still looking for that scientific method data about masks. And about how destroying family businesses will help. Could you point me the way?