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schuelma
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And a record number of deaths.
Horizons '83
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I asked this a another thread. Essentially some labs are only reporting positive tests and not all tests, meaning negative tests aren't a part of the "Total Tests" number which inflates the positivity rate.
mickeymiss
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Flu may be asymptomatic in up to 50% of cases but less infectious. I suspect flu and covid both infect people at lower rates when asymptomatic. I wish we had firm studies to show this. We all benefit from that.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
We know this is likely spread over weeks, or even months, so it doesn’t well us much. But more deaths do suck. Not what you want.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Not sure. Depends on how many more of these instances are out there I imagine.
Miss Bella
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True. I also may have had COVID. I do a lot in my daily life to help my natural immune system do what it's gotta do. I don't think I've taken care of a young, middle-aged, or old COVID patient that didn't have at least two or three comorbidities. I know it happens but it's rare.
Casper Gutman
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It will mainly effect percentage, which will be lower then reported on days when the mistake was made. It won’t effect the stats that, at this point in the crisis, folks are most concerned with - hospitalizations, ICU use, and negative outcomes.
We will hopefully find out the cause and extent of the screw-up and get further verification in the coming days.
Jrb1979
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Does it matter if they happened today or if they were spread out? Either way it's still bad. Florida should be doing more to mitigate them.
GoofGoof
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It has zero impact on total case numbers. The only thing it impacts is percent positive. Since we have stopped looking at percent positive as a metric and are now solely focused on hospital capacity and deaths (although deaths are in question now too) I guess it’s completely irrelevant. Or do we pivot back to percent positive now? Hard to say where the goal posts move next
Casper Gutman
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Again, if the nature of the lag is steady, it tells us a lot - it tells us negative outcomes are increasing, and things have been worse then we thought over the last several weeks.
GoofGoof
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Andrew C
You know what's funny?
It matters when tracking current trends. But as I said. More deaths suck. Not what I want to see.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I was referring specifically to current trends. Either way, we know deaths are slightly increasing. But it still is important to note that this record death count isn’t all from one day or one week.
mickeymiss
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It has zero impact on total case numbers. The only thing it impacts is percent positive. Since we have stopped looking at percent positive as a metric and are now solely focused on hospital capacity and deaths (although deaths are in question now too) I guess it’s completely irrelevant. Or do we pivot back to percent positive now? Hard to say where the goal posts move next
Most of the people wanting Disney shuttered again emphasized the positivity rate as most important a week ago so we've now moved on to hospital capacity and mortality? Deaths are still in a lag, no? Are hospitals overrun?
Dizzy emoji.
Casper Gutman
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I’m pretty sure it means we had some days with record increases a couple weeks ago and didn’t know it.
Overall, what we are seeing is a bureaucratic system, with all the usual inefficiencies, and a lack of strong central management.
Jrb1979
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Whatever number works for you to keep Disney opens will work for you.
Public policy is essentially telling people what they can and can't do (and to a lesser extent, what they should and shouldn't do).
Stay at Home Order? Telling people what to do.
Park closed? Telling people they can't attend, which is telling them what to do.
Mask policy? Telling people what to do.
In our democracy, public policy is made by those we elected with constant input from the public. So, we all have a say in what public policy should be which means we all have a say in telling one another what they can and can't do. And in the arena of public health which could be life and death decisions, such input isn't trivial.
People who think it goes against the common public safety for theme parks to be open will be critical of authorities that allow them to be open, park officials for being open, and members of the public who attend.
People who think it's fine for parks to be open will be critical for authorities who try to close or curtail the parks, park officials who decide to close down or curtail attendance, and people calling for the parks to close.
It's the American way.
Horizons '83
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It was my understanding that it does effect total tests. If there are actually more tests being conducted than reported then that would effect the positivity rate no?It has zero impact on total case numbers. The only thing it impacts is percent positive. Since we have stopped looking at percent positive as a metric and are now solely focused on hospital capacity and deaths (although deaths are in question now too) I guess it’s completely irrelevant. Or do we pivot back to percent positive now? Hard to say where the goal posts move next
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