Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Casper Gutman]

Look for yourself, you don’t seem to have anything better to do. It’s not hard, just time consuming.

Did you make the chart? Did you verify the numbers? And, if it’s entirely accurate, what point do you think it makes?

 

[kong1802]

Is that the source of the chart? Or is the source of the chart some guy on Twitter?

You already know....otherwise it would be shared

 

[xdan0920]

Did you make the chart? Did you verify the numbers? And, if it’s entirely accurate, what point do you think it makes?

It’s accurate.

Like I said earlier, I can’t keep up with the cadre, someone asked about the data, I supplied an answer. Do whatever you want with it. I have to get back to real life.

 

[kong1802]

Did you make the chart? Did you verify the numbers? And, if it’s entirely accurate, what point do you think it makes?

I've never heard the term "News deaths"

Deaths reported by the news? Is that what that means?

Confusing to have New deaths and News deaths on the same graph...

It's obvious the source on that graph is going to be less than vetted, to be nice.

 

[kong1802]

So that doesn't seem to help, it lists the date that it was counted, not the date of death.

Hopefully he has time to come back and share the secret source.

I wont hold my breath.

 

[Andrew C]

a piece from the attached article calls out how the deaths are spread over days and weeks. And we know this is how it has always worked anyways...it’s typical. Unfortunate maybe. But typical. And the reason why trends are important rather than daily counts.

Florida's Coronavirus Death Toll Passes 4,000, With Single-Day Record 120 New Deaths

Florida added nearly 9,000 new coronavirus cases Thursday, as the state once again hit a record for the percent of tests that came back positive. The 8,935 new COVID-19 cases brought the state’s total to 232,718, according to figures released by the Florida Department of Health. The number of...

www.google.com

 

[xdan0920]

So that doesn't seem to help, it lists the date that it was counted, not the date of death.

I assume since you deleted this post you figured it out.

 

[LSLS]

I assume since you deleted this post you figured it out.

Yes, I apologize. So we have when the case was counted as a positive test, and if the person died. Honestly I love crunching numbers, so I'm going to mess with the data some (assuming I can easily transfer it out of pdf). I'm ok being called as having no life.

 

[Casper Gutman]

a piece from the attached article calls out how the deaths are spread over days and weeks. And we know this is how it has always worked anyways...it’s typical. Unfortunate maybe. But typical. And the reason why trends are important rather than daily counts.

Florida's Coronavirus Death Toll Passes 4,000, With Single-Day Record 120 New Deaths

Florida added nearly 9,000 new coronavirus cases Thursday, as the state once again hit a record for the percent of tests that came back positive. The 8,935 new COVID-19 cases brought the state’s total to 232,718, according to figures released by the Florida Department of Health. The number of...

www.google.com

But this suggests that we won’t have an accurate assessment of outcome trends for weeks, maybe even months. And yes, daily counts are a tricky measure. So perhaps we should look at other measures - like skyrocketing case counts and positive percentages.

 

[kong1802]

Yes, I apologize. So we have when the case was counted as a positive test, and if the person died. Honestly I love crunching numbers, so I'm going to mess with the data some (assuming I can easily transfer it out of pdf). I'm ok being called as having no life.

I tried but it doesn't transfer well...

I wonder if who ever the secret genius is who made that other graph has more extensive ones looking at a month at a time.......

But if you get it to work, would love to see it!

 

[Andrew C]

But this suggests that we won’t have an accurate assessment of outcome trends for weeks, maybe even months. And yes, daily counts are a tricky measure. So perhaps we should look at other measures - like skyrocketing case counts and positive percentages.

You can look at whatever you want.

 

[Touchdown]

Again this still isn’t good news, what this shows is that deaths were not “virtually flat” the last two weeks but instead increasing in step with new cases. There goes the arguments no one is dying, it also means deaths are only going to increase from here until new cases peak and a few weeks go by after that.

 

[xdan0920]

Color me shocked......

Hopefully he has time to come back and share the secret source.

Yes, I apologize. So we have when the case was counted as a positive test, and if the person died. Honestly I love crunching numbers, so I'm going to mess with the data some (assuming I can easily transfer it out of pdf). I'm ok being called as having no life.

If I had the time I’d do the same. Accurate numbers are my life. Doesn’t take a lot mistakes to run a business into the ground. Luckily? Unluckily? The public sector can make mistakes till the cows come home.

 

[kong1802]

If I had the time I’d do the same. Accurate numbers are my life. Doesn’t take a lot mistakes to run a business into the ground. Luckily? Unluckily? The public sector can make mistakes till the cows come home.

Gotta admit, was hoping your quote included your secret source.

So mysterious.

 

[Andrew C]

Again this still isn’t good news, what this shows is that deaths were not “virtually flat” the last two weeks but instead increasing in step with new cases. There goes the arguments no one is dying, it also means deaths are only going to increase from here until new cases peak and a few weeks go by after that.

Well these arent total deaths for each day. They are additional deaths for specific dates. Your point may still stand though as I haven’t looked at recent death trends for Florida. This alone doesn’t tell us one way or the other. But it is important to call out that 120 deaths didn’t just happen over one night.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

You can look at whatever you want.

Kind of hard to look at anything with your head buried in the sand.

 

[Casper Gutman]

You can look at whatever you want.

Thank you?

Is the point here to declare, “Well, there’s absolutely no way we can make an educated assumption about what the pandemic might do, evidence is simply too confusing, so we might as well do what I want to do, which is pretend nothing is happening”?

 

[oceanbreeze77]

There goes the arguments no one is dying, it also means deaths are only going to increase from here until new cases peak and a few weeks go by after that.

This. Its better to look at new deaths in the same time bracket. (example: june15-july 5) and compare it with other time brackets. as opposed to day by day.

 

[kong1802]

Again this still isn’t good news, what this shows is that deaths were not “virtually flat” the last two weeks but instead increasing in step with new cases. There goes the arguments no one is dying, it also means deaths are only going to increase from here until new cases peak and a few weeks go by after that.

It's what we all knew, and were told deaths aren't going up.

Deaths do go up, and voila, that number is undermined.

Darned if you do......

 

[Andrew C]

Kind of hard to look at anything with your head buried in the sand.

huh?